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#1 Edited by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:
@powergirlfan said:

So Harley is a favorite because she first appeared in a cartoon but PG is not a favorite because she started as a "joke character". PG already is the type of character I want her to be and I don't see why, if Harley can be a "joke" and be a favorite, PG can't be a favorite also. If we can have fun with Harley, we can have fun with PG. Yet being fun - i.e. not being serious - is the reason people object to PG getting more panel space. Which is it people want? Fun comics or serious comics? I think we can have both and I think any one character can be both.

Whatever the reason for WW's maturity, the point is that maturity is not an obstacle to readers identifying with a character. The most popular characters are mature. Imagine Superman or Batman being teenagers who "haven't found their balance in the world yet". Exciting new episode: Batman learns how to fight crime and hold down a day job - and meets a girl!

I don't expect PG to be added to the Trinity. I would just like her to not be fighting crime among some wrecked spacecraft on an alien world in a parallel universe and not appearing in any other book, besides a Harley Quinn special set in a pre-52 DC universe. In the next special multiverse crossover series in the "no more alternate universes" new-52 DC universe, I'd like the Earth Two to be completely scrapped except for PG, the one character who doesn't belong there, thus freeing her to appear in all the other titles.

I don't understand what you want from her exactly. Like I said she had her own great series, was in JSA, World's Finest and has guest starred in most of the major characters books. Now she's been teaming up with arguably the most popular DC character recently. She's had plenty of exposure. Are you just upset with what's been going on with her in the past year or so? I wouldn't blame you in the least bit. I dropped World's Finest when it quit featuring Huntress and PG. I really liked that team up.

I don't have to imagine. We have Smallville and Batman Year One haha.

How do you figure she doesn't belong on Earth 2 when she's from Earth 2? That doesn't make any sense. She does belong there.

Had her own series. I didn't think it was so great. But now she doesn't have one. If you mean teaming up with Harley Quinn, that was not her greatest moment.

Yes, I'm unhappy with what is being done with her now, i.e., not very much. PG isn't on Earth 2, Earth 2 has been destroyed and she is on an alien planet which has been colonized by the survivors. But she doesn't belong on Earth 2 (1) because in the new DCU there is not even supposed to be an Earth 2 and (2) Earth 2 is in an alternate universe to the main one, which stops her from appearing in other titles which aren't set on Earth 2, i.e. all of them.

Pre-52, PG was on Earth One, after Earth 2 was destroyed. In the new 52, they put her back on Earth 2 (which we were originally told wasn't supposed to even exist in the new 52) and made her E2 Supergirl. Then they moved her to Earth One and changed her to Power Girl. Then she went back to Earth 2 as Power Girl, Earth 2 was destroyed and now she's stranded on another planet with what's left over of the human species. Brilliant.

#2 Posted by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

@powergirlfan said:
@Pokeysteve said:

She was featured in the Crisis series, had her own title and was in the JSA. I was never implying she wasn't liked and I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Like I said, I really liked her series.

The OP was asking why she isn't used more and that question is the basis of my first post here. Power Girl is a ton of fun but the same reasons we like her are the same reasons it's tough to take her seriously. People have a hard time taking Wonder Woman seriously because she doesn't wear pants.

Harley Quinn has her own book and is a regular in Suicide Squad and features heavily in other titles. She's a joke character as well as a villain. PG guested in a recent Harley Quinn special series, making her even more of a joke than ever.

As for SG having an advantage because she is not mature, Melissa Benoist, who currently plays SG in the TV series, is aged 28. Wonder Woman is mature and is one of the big three.

Harley was a fan favorite from her first appearance, which was in a cartoon where she had a voice. She's unique and has evolved as a character. PG was never created to be the type of character you want her to be. Harley wasn't either. In a sense their stories serve the same purpose. They're fun.

I'm not talking about their age. Episode one of Supergirl we saw her use her powers for the first time. I mean really use them. She isn't mature in the sense that she hasn't found her balance in the world yet.

Wonder Woman is part of the Trinity. You can't fairly compare any character with any of those three. Plus, Wonder Woman's maturity is part of her character. Wisdom of Athena.

So Harley is a favorite because she first appeared in a cartoon but PG is not a favorite because she started as a "joke character". PG already is the type of character I want her to be and I don't see why, if Harley can be a "joke" and be a favorite, PG can't be a favorite also. If we can have fun with Harley, we can have fun with PG. Yet being fun - i.e. not being serious - is the reason people object to PG getting more panel space. Which is it people want? Fun comics or serious comics? I think we can have both and I think any one character can be both.

Whatever the reason for WW's maturity, the point is that maturity is not an obstacle to readers identifying with a character. The most popular characters are mature. Imagine Superman or Batman being teenagers who "haven't found their balance in the world yet". Exciting new episode: Batman learns how to fight crime and hold down a day job - and meets a girl!

I don't expect PG to be added to the Trinity. I would just like her to not be fighting crime among some wrecked spacecraft on an alien world in a parallel universe and not appearing in any other book, besides a Harley Quinn special set in a pre-52 DC universe. In the next special multiverse crossover series in the "no more alternate universes" new-52 DC universe, I'd like the Earth Two to be completely scrapped except for PG, the one character who doesn't belong there, thus freeing her to appear in all the other titles.

#3 Edited by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:
@powergirlfan said:
@Pokeysteve said:

I enjoyed Power Girls pre 52 series and she has her own personality and all that but there isn't anything special about her. She's like a joke character that stuck around.

Some real talk, she's a blue-eyed blond with a humongous rack in an industry dominated by young men. Supergirl might be not be as mature but that's why she does well. The audience gets to live though all these events with her and see how she handles them. There isn't much to learn from PG.

No, it's because she rarely appears in anything. She's only a joke if the writers write her as a joke. The point is to give her more exposure and better writing so that readers do like her. You can't blame the character for being written the wrong way and not being given appearances.

But, personality, blonde, big boobs, humor - are reasons to like the character, not dislike. PG is a great character and many comic readers love her.

She was featured in the Crisis series, had her own title and was in the JSA. I was never implying she wasn't liked and I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Like I said, I really liked her series.

The OP was asking why she isn't used more and that question is the basis of my first post here. Power Girl is a ton of fun but the same reasons we like her are the same reasons it's tough to take her seriously. People have a hard time taking Wonder Woman seriously because she doesn't wear pants.

Harley Quinn has her own book and is a regular in Suicide Squad and features heavily in other titles. She's a joke character as well as a villain. PG guested in a recent Harley Quinn special series, making her even more of a joke than ever.

As for SG having an advantage because she is not mature, Melissa Benoist, who currently plays SG in the TV series, is aged 28. Wonder Woman is mature and is one of the big three.

#4 Edited by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

I enjoyed Power Girls pre 52 series and she has her own personality and all that but there isn't anything special about her. She's like a joke character that stuck around.

Some real talk, she's a blue-eyed blond with a humongous rack in an industry dominated by young men. Supergirl might be not be as mature but that's why she does well. The audience gets to live though all these events with her and see how she handles them. There isn't much to learn from PG.

No, it's because she rarely appears in anything. She's only a joke if the writers write her as a joke. The point is to give her more exposure and better writing so that readers do like her. You can't blame the character for being written the wrong way and not being given appearances.

But, personality, blonde, big boobs, humor - are reasons to like the character, not dislike. PG is a great character and many comic readers love her.

#5 Posted by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm about to do an alternate take on PG and write my own PG comics.

#6 Edited by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

So, I haven't been following Earth 2 that much, did they actually kill her off? She's not appearing on covers, or in the previews. Or did they turn her evil?

She's not in the current issue of Earth 2 Society but there is currently a sub-plot about a falling out between her and Val/Superman, over his recently revealed past actions during World's End. Val has just carved a mountainside into a sculpture of PG's face and he's feeling really bad about PG ending their friendship.

So, she's a member of Earth 2 Society and she's Superman's ex-best-friend. However, it's not much of a superhero story and the title is still drawn badly. She's still bad-tempered and lacking in self-control and has smaller boobs. So, the trait people didn't admire without one we did like.

#7 Edited by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope they do dump PG, so I can stop buying the badly drawn comics she appears in.

#8 Posted by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't bother me. At this point, I'd prefer fan-produced PG comics. Or any non-DC produced PG comics.

#9 Posted by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

PG could easily find a big niche alongside Superman and Supergirl. She only became a redundant Kryptonian when they took away the features which distinguished her: Her more muscular and curvy physique, her boobs, and her feisty and testy temperament. Her figure gave more overt sex-appeal than SG and just about every other female super and her temperament made her more interesting and entertaining, beside the other, generic female supers. The testiness did not exclude her having a softer or more serious sides to her persona. She need not have been a one-dimensional gag.

But the "anti-objectification" brigade wanted to pour cold water on PG's sex-symbol status, claiming that it undermined her credibility as a superhero. It's the old line about women can't be sexy and powerful. Who even thinks that any more? Lot's of people think that way about PG, but they don't apply that standard to other females, real or fictional. For some reason, PG gets singled out. Like there is no sexualization of other female comics characters. I could name ten who are more sexualized and get no criticism over it.

Taking these features from PG made her a SG/WW clone. Even as she is now, just writing her some decent stories, including her in some of the big titles and giving her some respectable villains to fight would be enough by itself to make her a big seller. There's no reason why she couldn't have her own movie either.

#10 Posted by PowerGirlFan (290 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely get Justice League Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League_Europe