@picallo3798: CONFIRMED is the key word. While I personally believe he is a planet buster. He has never done so or destroyed something of planetary size. The poster above you says that Supes destroyed a moon that is twice the size of Earth. I'm not aware of that instance or context around it. If it's true then that confirms that Superman is a planet buster
If a character lifts a mountain then they are a CONFIRMED car lifter. They can most certainly lift cars. Superman has many feats above planet busting. A punch is just a push with speed.
agreed. so on what page did you post feats that put superman above a planet buster?
I get that, but just because he hasnt done it doesnt mean his not capable. So I guess its not 'confirmed' as far as the debate is concerned but I'd say its pretty obvious he could if he ever had the desire to bust a planet.
@picallo3798: CONFIRMED is the key word. While I personally believe he is a planet buster. He has never done so or destroyed something of planetary size. The poster above you says that Supes destroyed a moon that is twice the size of Earth. I'm not aware of that instance or context around it. If it's true then that confirms that Superman is a planet buster
But do you think it's outta the realm of possibility that Flash with a little more Gusto could do damage to Odin while his Superpals distract?
Odin can just stop time. I can't think of a case where Flash solo'd a Odin-level opponent. If I"m missing a case, I'm all ears.
I dont think anyone here is going to claim that Flash can solo an Odin-level character.
Sorry to disprove your statement but i'm going to make a claim that Flash can solo Odin. Odin has great energy feats. But his couple of physical showings show weakness. People say that Flash has never beaten anyone like Odin. I ask: Has Odin ever beaten anyone like Flash? Has anyone attacked Odin with the power set that Flash has? Not to my knowledge. I'm going to throw out a few tactics that I think Flash can use. Tell me what resistance or immunity has Odin shown to these methods of attacks.
1) IMP from Flash. What blunt force durability feats does Odin have that show he can remain conscious after being hit by an IMP?
2) Affecting the speed of Odin's brain functions causing Odin to lose consciousness
3) Phasing: Why wouldn't phasing work on Odin? Asgardians are 3x denser then humans. For all his power, it's not stated that Odin is more dense then other asgardians. Flash can phased through steel which is at least 8 times denser then humans. So if he can phase through steel...why not odin?
4) Speed. If Odin needs ONE SECOND to attack ......How many different attacks could Wally try before Odin can get off one attack?
Is this hit from THor more powerful then an IMP? IDK. Yes odin gets up and beats the snot out of THor. But one punch put odin on his knee. If thor doesn't stop and have a conversation... we don't know how much more damage Thor could have done. Then you have the Headbutt against Galactus. Hercules, The Thing have both hit Galactus without breaking any bones or passing out. Yet Odin was KNOCKED OUT from a head butt that he initiated.
Also, this fight is in character. In character, Odin is a warrior. He enjoys battle. He can erase them with a thought but would he even take that route? Or would he try to do battle. Also, would odin have time to form a thought? The difference in speed between Odin and JLA is immense
Juggernaut can't be entirely stopped but he can be mostly stopped.
The Hulk did this in World War Hulk, he met Juggernaut's charge and halted him. Juggernaut was only pushing him back slowly.
I seriously doubt Itachi's Susanoo can match the physical power of The Hulk though.
War Hulk (not WWH) was not only able to stop Juggs momentum. He pushed Juggs back. War Hulk did have Celestial tech at the time. Just pointing out that Juggs has limits also
@h1a8: superman has to speed up his reaction and speed. It's not automatic and it's something he rarely does. Also, Thanos was able to think and see Runner when he was moving at 2x light speed. Supes rarely starts a battle at those speeds even when blood lusted
Either show the scans of Supes burning through someone or something(non living so he doesn't hold back) as durable as Thanos. Or what post did you show it in?
A TP blast shuts down the mind. It's like a punch to the brain. Not mind control. As said, Supes rarely begins a fight at 2x light speed so Thanos will be able to see, think and react to him as he did to the Runner.
Please show Thanos having trouble with Thor's punches. He had no problem in Infinity or Celestial Messiah. Thor has better striking feats then Superman. Thor is a confirmed planet buster. Superman is not
Thanos blast can hit several spots at once. And superman has been hit by single blast more times then he has gone intangible.
Skrulls control their genetic make up. Superman has been changed into animals and shrunk also.
On CV we go by what's in character for a person to fight. Many of the things you say are not in character for SUpes to fight that way.
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