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#1  Edited By Pokeysteve

@vuviper said:

@Pokeysteve: Your comment about Batman being a weak link made me think the others are considerably better than him. With Prometheus though, I think Slade and Cassandra lose

I know and I didn't mean it that way. I was thinking about a couple of Prometheus' appearances and I could be convinced they could win. If we assume the match ups are Stroke/Prom and Bats/Cass, how do you see those going?

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@Killemall said:

@Pokeysteve said:

They've never had to replicate it. Having them move planets every month would get a little boring.

Thats not what i mean, what i meant was the amount of strength it takes to dislodge a planet from its orbit is just staggring and neither of them are normally portrayed to be that strong.

I know this is going to look very geeky but here's a simply run down on the amount of force required to dislogde earth from the orbit (excluding the impact moon and other planets have in maintaining earth into orbit, if we actually assimilate all of them together, which i cannot because i dont know how, will make it lot harder to do what they have done)

Earth's mass (m1) = 5.972*10^24

Sun's mass (m2) = 2*10^30

Normal Orbital Distance in meters = 1.5*10^11

Gravitational constant (G) = 6.67*10^-11

Based on Newtons universal law of Graviation, the amount of force required to dislodge earth from its orbit has be slighly over this figure:

F = (G*m1*m2)/(r^2)

F = 3.54073* 10^22

One Third of it = 1.18024 * 10^22 Newtons

Force in newtons is hard to gauge so lets convert in into equivalent weight lifted. We know on earth it takes 9.8N to lift 1 kg. Therefore this feat can be converted as Wonder woman lifting a little more than : 1.20433*10^21 Kg

You really think wonder woman is normally shown strong enough to lift a little more than 1,204,330,000,000,000,000,000 kgs? She should have been able to lift city with her pinky :p

I see what you're saying. It's the same reasons all of the other extremely strong characters are portrayed the same way. It's not as suspenseful to see Wonder Woman effortlessly hold up a suspension bridge with her Lasso or Superman just rescue a plane midair without struggling. Then there's the old "they hold back" business. It's true if you think about it.

I feel bad but I skipped all of the math hahaha I'm sleepy and don't want that headache. I'll read it tomorrow =)

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@vuviper said:

@Pokeysteve said:

@vuviper said:

@Pokeysteve said:

I think this is the only battle on the Vine where Batman being the weak link costs his team the win.

Batman is barely behind either Deathstroke or Cassie. It's debatable whether he even is behind Cass.

@Stronger said:

@Pokeystevesaid:

I think this is the only battle on the Vine where Batman being the weak link costs his team the win.

Batman is not the weaker link.Cassandra is.

With full equipment Bat beats Cass but he doesn't have it here. She can take him in h2h.

She can take him h2h, but he could take her nearly as many times if not more. He's really not far behind her

No not far behind at all. It's not a stomp by any means. I still think she takes the majority though.

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@vuviper said:

@Pokeysteve said:

I think this is the only battle on the Vine where Batman being the weak link costs his team the win.

Batman is barely behind either Deathstroke or Cassie. It's debatable whether he even is behind Cass.

@Stronger said:

@Pokeystevesaid:

I think this is the only battle on the Vine where Batman being the weak link costs his team the win.

Batman is not the weaker link.Cassandra is.

With full equipment Bat beats Cass but he doesn't have it here. She can take him in h2h.

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@blackadamFTW said:

@Pokeysteve: Magic (that's right, I said it). It's pretty well established that they're just about equals, but if Captain Marvel really wanted to beat him, he could.

Supes always holds back. It could be argued if he really wanted too he could beat Cap. Don't really want to get into that here though.

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@Killemall said:

@Pokeysteve said:

She wasn't even at full strength when they did that. None of them were.

And scientifically speaking neither superman nor wonder woman has ever replicated any such feat, and that feat on itself certainly doesnt sit well with what they have done through the years. Its hard to quantify how much force is required to move the earth, but once can always calculate how much energy its required to dislodge earth from its orbit.

They've never had to replicate it. Having them move planets every month would get a little boring.

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I think this is the only battle on the Vine where Batman being the weak link costs his team the win.

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@Ancient_0f_Days said:

@greenteaforme said:

Wonder Woman is not getting speed blitzed, I'm sorry. (Someone said team 2 gets blitzed)

Wonder Woman can easily KILL any of the females on team 1, along with Superboy. Captain Atom's red sunlight radiation is going to help a lot.

Can this Hal make kryptonite, like in Green Lantern: Legacy? If so, that pretty much ensures team 2's victory. If not, it's still in team 2's favor.

Superman already speed blitzed her like 3 times already ....... Power Girl did it once ........ and so did Bizarro ..... it isn't too far fetched to say she gets speed blitzed here

She blocked one of Supes blitzes from like 30 ft away. She's not getting blitzed when writers don't need help dragging out a fight. Cap might be quick enough to block one too. The rest go down though.

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Superman couldn't beat Captain Atom, and he would probably lose to Captain Marvel.

What are you basing this off of? And don't say magic.

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Anyone have scans of Surfer handling someone as fast as Wally?

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@Evil Incarnate said:

@Pokeysteve said:

We need to start giving Hulk wings or a Legion ring or something to let him fly. The poor guy probably feels so left out.

Even with wings he'd be too slow to help.

Touche

@Killemall said:

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He isn't really underestimated, but he's often pitted against people out of his league, which is unfair to him.

Come on man he's massively massively under-rated. Everytime Thor loses to hulk be it in comics, or movies or animation people start saying Thor holds back or its PIS. Its always the speed argument that comes, else strength to strength Hulk has feats to prove he's at least as strong as wonder woman (as long as you dont include her being able to pull the earth, apart from that Hulk has matched her in strength).

She wasn't even at full strength when they did that. None of them were.