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Geeking out about Melinda May using the alias Chastity McBryde (from Elektra Assassin) in SHIELD this week.

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I'm voting for @sundown89. I enjoyed the wacky characters.

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Issue #148

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Battles

provided by @mike_strike10

Starkiller (SW) runs a cross-verse gauntlet

Here we have an interesting Star Wars gauntlet by @ieatnettles. One that appeals to many different types of fanbases. It seems to be time to match SW against a more expansive audience.

Prime Netero [HxH] Vs Mahito [JJK]

Now, we have a fun matchup for our anime fans out there. @sixpathsofcapra puts two very versatile characters against each other,. With how popular JJK has been on this site, it only makes sense to get some people in on this conversation.

CaVs and Tourneys

provided by @anthp2000

CAV: Riddick (KreigAstartis) vs Michael Myers (JaylinFreeman)

Maybe I don't get it, but Viners love their Halloween themed battles, especially at this time of the year, and this is one of them. @kreigastartis represents Riddick, Vin Diesel's 2013 movie version, opposite to @jaylinfreeman representing a Halloween classic in Michael Myers. The CaV just started, with the latter user having made their first move. Check it out for more!

CAV: Arthur Boyle(KillerQueen) vs RX-0 Unicorn (Chris2Kzombieki)

This is a battle between warriors, a pyrokinetic soldier and a mech, from two distinct anime franchises, Fire Force and Gundam. Arthur Boyle is represented by @killerqueen, while RX-0 Unicorn is represented by @chris2kzombieki, who opened the debate less than a week ago. Battles between man and technology are always interesting to me, and as far as I can tell, with no prior knowledge on either opponent, this is one difficult machine to take on. Keep in touch if you like the concept too.

Corporate Wars Tournament (2024 Edition)

@geekryan's Corporate Wars Tournament hasn't been successfully held since 2020, but it's finally back! One of the most intriguing, fun and diverse tourneys on ComicVine is already underway, with the six matches of the first set including scenarios such as a hostage rescue, a search and destroy situation, and protecting an NPC. The teams of the participants, most of them well known in the Battle forums, are equally inventive, combining characters from verses like Mortal Kombat, DC, Marvel, Avatar, FMA, Harry Potter and so on. Creativity in team making, careful planning and matchups all factor in to eventually decide a final winner. All debates have started and the links can be found in the final post of the above page (#287). Tourneys are particularly easy for readers to follow because there's a set schedule, so make sure to not miss out!

Respect Threads

provided by @professorrespect

Timespinner Spider-Man Respect Thread

Wow! Spider-Man has many versions, but I decided as a minor detour from my epic disrespect threads that I would instead cover a fairly unique and fairly strong edition of the character that many people simply do not know about. I do a good job of explaining who the character is and why he should be respected; nothing more or less needed, really.

MCU Gorr Respect Thread

MCU Gorr may have been of questionable quality in his debut movie. That said this RT arguably did even more justice to the character than anywhere in that movie, so there. @justneedhelp definitely didn't need help making this any better than it could've been, that's for sure. Another solid RT out from him.

Salem's Seven Respect Thread

Another epic mystic RT by the always on-form @wastelandman once again. This time he's covered SEVEN characters at once in the form of the Salem Seven, a fairly obscure villain group that mostly got random appearances despite starting off as a potential spin-off from appearing in Fantastic Four comics. A great group of mid-tiers indeed.

Celestial Serpent Respect Thread

Lore. It's a four letter word on its own, but means so much more in more vague and mystical circles. The Elder Scrolls is a verse that people have been able to scale insanely detailed chains around using the power of novel statements to basically make everyone there at least universal if not more. It is the existence of threads like these then that focus purely on the physical that will provide some tangible sanity to those looking from the outside in. @bendtome

Classic Battle Recap: Ikaris, Sersi, and Makkari vs the Cosmic Hulk Robot, Eternals (vol. 1) #15

provided by @owie

This is a battle that, as classic Marvel would say, is SO TITANIC, SO INCREDIBLE, SO SENSES-SHATTERING, that even though it takes up the entirety of this issue, it actually takes up a good chunk of issue 14 and continues into issue 16. But issue 15 is the bulk of it and is the most entertaining. Like it? Go buy it and the other issues, of course!

The creator: Jack Kirby wrote and drew the issue.

The participants:

Ikaris, chief warrior of the Eternals, capable of various energy beams, significant superhuman strength and a nearly indestructible body, flight, and (although we don’t see them here) various psychic and matter-manipulation powers.

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• Sersi, the Eternal that Circe of the Odyssey was supposedly based on, who also possesses all of Ikaris’s powers but focuses especially on matter manipulation and illusion casting.

No Caption Provided

• Makkari, also an Eternal, possessing lightning speed.

No Caption Provided

Cosmic Hulk, who…was a college science project based on the in-universe comics version of the Hulk gone wrong? (This reference to the Hulk comic "character," and even the fact that it's a Hulk robot instead of the actual Hulk, was due to the fact that the Eternals series, at this time, was only tangentially part of the rest of the Marvel universe, and was playing footsie with the idea of being in a universe slightly removed from it, a concept that now seems hard to grasp to modern readers, given that the Celestials, which were introduced in this series, are now so integral to Marvel cosmology).

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Basically Cosmic Hulk is a robot who can absorb cosmic energy to become close to the Hulk’s own strength and durability. In this case, he got power from the Eternals' Uni-Mind.

We join the battle in mid-fight. Ikaris busily blasts away at Cosmic Hulk while making sure he has time to make misogynistic comments about Sersi’s easily-snapped neck.

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Sersi goes for the smart attack, and tries to one-shot Cosmic Hulk by changing him into stone made of “heavy density molecules” (Kirby was always big on these pseudo-scientific terms). It works!

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Until it doesn’t. Cosmic Hulk somehow changes himself back into his normal state. Ikaris, always a jerk, throws off another line showing how little he thinks of Sersi’s ability to take care of herself.

No Caption Provided

Of course, this plays out in reality as Sersi is quickly captured by Cosmic Hulk.

No Caption Provided

Makkari (here spelled "Makarri") shows up in this hilarious ship, which dodges a spire that Cosmic Hulk throws at it.

No Caption Provided

Then Makkari takes the initiative and, in a nice move, rams Cosmic Hulk with the ship at great speed.

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Cosmic Hulk returns the favor when he whiffs a punch at the ship but the shockwave that comes purely from the movement of his arm through the air knocks the Eternal ship back like a pinball.

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Then in a funny moment, Ikaris, who got smacked pretty hard by the Cosmic Hulk a couple minutes ago, gets mobbed by a gaggle of reporters who want him to take just “one minute,” because he’s not busy or anything, to give them some play by play.

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Sersi, meanwhile, continues to be the brains of the Eternals bunch, and has Cosmic Hulk on defense by surrounding him with fire and bizarre monsters.

No Caption Provided
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But after telling her "Bravo," Ikaris decides it’s time to step in and, you know, put her down, MAYBE because as he says the fight is destroying the city, or just possibly because he is, as Sersi says, an “arrogant male” who can’t stand the fact that she’s actually affecting Cosmic Hulk and Ikaris isn’t.

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At this point the army gets involved and Cosmic Hulk smashes some more of the city. I guess Ikaris was both misogynistic and correct about the collateral damage.

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Ikaris decides to tell Sersi to leave again, this time backed up by Makkari, because it’s not like she was the only one doing anything useful here or anything. Then Zuras, the Zeus-like leader of the Eternals gets involved, and things move on to a conclusion in the next issue.

No Caption Provided

All told, this is a fun and absurd battle with a lot of goofy ‘70s social context (I didn't even include all the "alas, I am so weak" comments by Sersi). It shows that even a college-prank copy of the Hulk (granted, with a comic power boost...ok, there's a little more retconned backstory to it now) can walk all over a group of Eternals, who are no pushovers themselves. Jack Kirby’s art is, at this point in his career, pretty stylized, with some of the visceral impact of his art from the ‘60s but also an increasingly baroque set of graphic shorthands that can look pretty silly (and borrow as much from Roy Lichtenstein pop sensibility as Lichtenstein did from guys like Jack)--for instance:

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His writing, like that in the more or less coeval Devil Dinosaur, is also full of eccentric ideas and bombastic dialog that simultaneously show that maybe Stan Lee was not a totally useless part of their team back in the ‘60s (as Jack increasingly stipulated around this time), but they're also are pretty entertaining to read.

Extra Credits

Thanks again to @cor_tsar for creating The Daily Debater, and to @supremegeneration, @life_without_progress, @wearetheflash, @cosmicallyaware1, @krleavenger, @emperorthanos-, and @vertigo- for all their efforts on past issues, and making TDD what it is today.

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Issue #148

No Caption Provided

Callouts

Battles

provided by @mike_strike10

Starkiller (SW) runs a cross-verse gauntlet

Here we have an interesting Star Wars gauntlet by @ieatnettles. One that appeals to many different types of fanbases. It seems to be time to match SW against a more expansive audience.

Prime Netero [HxH] Vs Mahito [JJK]

Now, we have a fun matchup for our anime fans out there. @sixpathsofcapra puts two very versatile characters against each other,. With how popular JJK has been on this site, it only makes sense to get some people in on this conversation.

CaVs and Tourneys

provided by @anthp2000

CAV: Riddick (KreigAstartis) vs Michael Myers (JaylinFreeman)

Maybe I don't get it, but Viners love their Halloween themed battles, especially at this time of the year, and this is one of them. @kreigastartis represents Riddick, Vin Diesel's 2013 movie version, opposite to @jaylinfreeman representing a Halloween classic in Michael Myers. The CaV just started, with the latter user having made their first move. Check it out for more!

CAV: Arthur Boyle(KillerQueen) vs RX-0 Unicorn (Chris2Kzombieki)

This is a battle between warriors, a pyrokinetic soldier and a mech, from two distinct anime franchises, Fire Force and Gundam. Arthur Boyle is represented by @killerqueen, while RX-0 Unicorn is represented by @chris2kzombieki, who opened the debate less than a week ago. Battles between man and technology are always interesting to me, and as far as I can tell, with no prior knowledge on either opponent, this is one difficult machine to take on. Keep in touch if you like the concept too.

Corporate Wars Tournament (2024 Edition)

@geekryan's Corporate Wars Tournament hasn't been successfully held since 2020, but it's finally back! One of the most intriguing, fun and diverse tourneys on ComicVine is already underway, with the six matches of the first set including scenarios such as a hostage rescue, a search and destroy situation, and protecting an NPC. The teams of the participants, most of them well known in the Battle forums, are equally inventive, combining characters from verses like Mortal Kombat, DC, Marvel, Avatar, FMA, Harry Potter and so on. Creativity in team making, careful planning and matchups all factor in to eventually decide a final winner. All debates have started and the links can be found in the final post of the above page (#287). Tourneys are particularly easy for readers to follow because there's a set schedule, so make sure to not miss out!

Respect Threads

provided by @professorrespect

Timespinner Spider-Man Respect Thread

Wow! Spider-Man has many versions, but I decided as a minor detour from my epic disrespect threads that I would instead cover a fairly unique and fairly strong edition of the character that many people simply do not know about. I do a good job of explaining who the character is and why he should be respected; nothing more or less needed, really.

MCU Gorr Respect Thread

MCU Gorr may have been of questionable quality in his debut movie. That said this RT arguably did even more justice to the character than anywhere in that movie, so there. @justneedhelp definitely didn't need help making this any better than it could've been, that's for sure. Another solid RT out from him.

Salem's Seven Respect Thread

Another epic mystic RT by the always on-form @wastelandman once again. This time he's covered SEVEN characters at once in the form of the Salem Seven, a fairly obscure villain group that mostly got random appearances despite starting off as a potential spin-off from appearing in Fantastic Four comics. A great group of mid-tiers indeed.

Celestial Serpent Respect Thread

Lore. It's a four letter word on its own, but means so much more in more vague and mystical circles. The Elder Scrolls is a verse that people have been able to scale insanely detailed chains around using the power of novel statements to basically make everyone there at least universal if not more. It is the existence of threads like these then that focus purely on the physical that will provide some tangible sanity to those looking from the outside in. @bendtome

Classic Battle Recap: Ikaris, Sersi, and Makkari vs the Cosmic Hulk Robot, Eternals (vol. 1) #15

provided by @owie

This is a battle that, as classic Marvel would say, is SO TITANIC, SO INCREDIBLE, SO SENSES-SHATTERING, that even though it takes up the entirety of this issue, it actually takes up a good chunk of issue 14 and continues into issue 16. But issue 15 is the bulk of it and is the most entertaining. Like it? Go buy it and the other issues, of course!

The creator: Jack Kirby wrote and drew the issue.

The participants:

Ikaris, chief warrior of the Eternals, capable of various energy beams, significant superhuman strength and a nearly indestructible body, flight, and (although we don’t see them here) various psychic and matter-manipulation powers.

No Caption Provided

• Sersi, the Eternal that Circe of the Odyssey was supposedly based on, who also possesses all of Ikaris’s powers but focuses especially on matter manipulation and illusion casting.

No Caption Provided

• Makkari, also an Eternal, possessing lightning speed.

No Caption Provided

Cosmic Hulk, who…was a college science project based on the in-universe comics version of the Hulk gone wrong? (This reference to the Hulk comic "character," and even the fact that it's a Hulk robot instead of the actual Hulk, was due to the fact that the Eternals series, at this time, was only tangentially part of the rest of the Marvel universe, and was playing footsie with the idea of being in a universe slightly removed from it, a concept that now seems hard to grasp to modern readers, given that the Celestials, which were introduced in this series, are now so integral to Marvel cosmology).

No Caption Provided

Basically Cosmic Hulk is a robot who can absorb cosmic energy to become close to the Hulk’s own strength and durability. In this case, he got power from the Eternals' Uni-Mind.

We join the battle in mid-fight. Ikaris busily blasts away at Cosmic Hulk while making sure he has time to make misogynistic comments about Sersi’s easily-snapped neck.

No Caption Provided

Sersi goes for the smart attack, and tries to one-shot Cosmic Hulk by changing him into stone made of “heavy density molecules” (Kirby was always big on these pseudo-scientific terms). It works!

No Caption Provided

Until it doesn’t. Cosmic Hulk somehow changes himself back into his normal state. Ikaris, always a jerk, throws off another line showing how little he thinks of Sersi’s ability to take care of herself.

No Caption Provided

Of course, this plays out in reality as Sersi is quickly captured by Cosmic Hulk.

No Caption Provided

Makkari (here spelled "Makarri") shows up in this hilarious ship, which dodges a spire that Cosmic Hulk throws at it.

No Caption Provided

Then Makkari takes the initiative and, in a nice move, rams Cosmic Hulk with the ship at great speed.

No Caption Provided

Cosmic Hulk returns the favor when he whiffs a punch at the ship but the shockwave that comes purely from the movement of his arm through the air knocks the Eternal ship back like a pinball.

No Caption Provided

Then in a funny moment, Ikaris, who got smacked pretty hard by the Cosmic Hulk a couple minutes ago, gets mobbed by a gaggle of reporters who want him to take just “one minute,” because he’s not busy or anything, to give them some play by play.

No Caption Provided

Sersi, meanwhile, continues to be the brains of the Eternals bunch, and has Cosmic Hulk on defense by surrounding him with fire and bizarre monsters.

No Caption Provided
No Caption Provided

But after telling her "Bravo," Ikaris decides it’s time to step in and, you know, put her down, MAYBE because as he says the fight is destroying the city, or just possibly because he is, as Sersi says, an “arrogant male” who can’t stand the fact that she’s actually affecting Cosmic Hulk and Ikaris isn’t.

No Caption Provided

At this point the army gets involved and Cosmic Hulk smashes some more of the city. I guess Ikaris was both misogynistic and correct about the collateral damage.

No Caption Provided

Ikaris decides to tell Sersi to leave again, this time backed up by Makkari, because it’s not like she was the only one doing anything useful here or anything. Then Zuras, the Zeus-like leader of the Eternals gets involved, and things move on to a conclusion in the next issue.

No Caption Provided

All told, this is a fun and absurd battle with a lot of goofy ‘70s social context (I didn't even include all the "alas, I am so weak" comments by Sersi). It shows that even a college-prank copy of the Hulk (granted, with a comic power boost...ok, there's a little more retconned backstory to it now) can walk all over a group of Eternals, who are no pushovers themselves. Jack Kirby’s art is, at this point in his career, pretty stylized, with some of the visceral impact of his art from the ‘60s but also an increasingly baroque set of graphic shorthands that can look pretty silly (and borrow as much from Roy Lichtenstein pop sensibility as Lichtenstein did from guys like Jack)--for instance:

No Caption Provided

His writing, like that in the more or less coeval Devil Dinosaur, is also full of eccentric ideas and bombastic dialog that simultaneously show that maybe Stan Lee was not a totally useless part of their team back in the ‘60s (as Jack increasingly stipulated around this time), but they're also are pretty entertaining to read.

Extra Credits

Thanks again to @cor_tsar for creating The Daily Debater, and to @supremegeneration, @life_without_progress, @wearetheflash, @cosmicallyaware1, @krleavenger, @emperorthanos-, and @vertigo- for all their efforts on past issues, and making TDD what it is today.

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@azathothh: I'm going to go right to a temp ban for that little profanity-filled rant.

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@kataraaaa: Temp ban. You were officially warned not to tag geek, and vice versa, from now on. You instigated this contact and while it's not the worst comment in the world, neither is it some kind innocuous comment to start a reasoned conversation by, for instance, providing a counterargument. You're just poking to annoy which is precisely what the no-tag moderation for you guys was about.

@geekryan: You were also warned not to tag kataraaa. Given that you're just responding and your comment isn't antagonistic, just questioning, and doesn't escalate the situation, I am just officially warning you. From now on, no responses at all. If you (or anyone else in a no-contact moderated situation) gets contacted by someone you're not supposed to tag, just PM or tag a mod instead. Given your other moderating situations at the moment, you are on thin ice here however and should expect another temp ban to be next.

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Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to me that four of the five Marvel characters' powers are basically melee fighters with super strength/durability etc. Arguably Skurge has his axe which has energy powers. In which case they can't really do anything to John if he fights smart at all; all he would have to do is fly, put up a forcefield, and blast from above.

So the Absorbing Man is the only one who could actually put up a fight. I'd be curious what he could do if he absorbed the green energy; would he really be able to use it without a Lantern's will? I'm no Lantern expert. Would John just be able to control any energy that Creel was made of, as the person with better willpower?

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provided by both @owie and @mike_strike10! We had a bit of a mix up, but also there were almost no RTs this week so you get a double batch of battles to make up for it.

Rebirth sundipped Superman vs Titan Hulk

A very powerful Supes vs a very powerful Hulk. A classic match-up in all versions, typically connected to strength and speed, but here we have a variety of other questions, especially around dimension busting. There are also a lot of author statements, and arguments about those as well. Plus there's the question of how Superman in particular might fight in character. Check out @thedevil98's battle here.

Lanterns vs Marvel Elite Team

Again with Marvel vs DC, this time by @skywalker95. (His similar Avengers vs X-Men battle is still going strong as well.) Here we have the classics of the Green Lanterns, plus Sinestro, vs Thor, Jean Grey, Wanda, Magneto, and Sue Storm. Do Sue's powers replicate those of the Lanterns? Can Jean take them out with telepathy or can they block it? Do the Lanterns win by speed? How much will Thor absorb energy? The thread is full of people sure this, that, or the other character is useless, but not everyone agrees on which character.

Rachel Summers Vs Vision

And finally in this all-Marvel fight made by @mage101, the questions include things like, what kind of intangibility does Vision have, and can Rachel counter it? What stops Rachel from ragdolling Vision? Would Rachel's telepathy work on Vision? And what tier is Vision exactly anyway? A team-buster? Mid? And how do we scale Rachel who has been through so many changes over the years?

Does Satoru Gojo Always Win? Gojo vs Archer Gilgamesh (Fate Stay Zero)

Continuing the trend, set by Owie. We have another thread here by @sirfizzwhizz. This time putting the Strongest Soccer Vs the Strongest Heroic Spirit. Which of the strongest will come out on top?

THE TOURNAMENT FOR THE MOST POWERFUL X-MEN

We have another unique type of thread by @mage101. We see the infamous X-Men matched up against each other to see who is the strongest.

Sage Hashi vs Ifrit Sanji

Now, we have another Big Three Anime matchup. This time @silencemood puts Sanji Vs Hashirama. As usual, the Naruto and One Piece fans are having their disagreements. Which side is correct? Go see for yourself!

CAVs and Tourneys

provided by @geekryan

2023 Halloween-Themed Tourney Finals: Kurt_Saulenne vs Chris2kzombieki vs KingCrimson

This is the final match of the Halloween-Themed Tournament hosted by mr-yes. It's a 1v1v1 finale between three respectable debaters, whose characters are all themed around Halloween/horror. It's a street-level tournament with some very interesting and unique perks. The characters are all from DC, Mortal Kombat, Choujin X, and classic horror films, so you get several mediums from this one. There has only been one post so far, but hopefully this tournament ends up having a conclusion, because the characters and perks are quite fun!

Earth & Metalbending CaV: Arcus1 (Kuvira) Vs. Anthp2000 (Lin Beifong)

With the recent Netflix release of the live action Avatar: The Last Airbender series, what better time to mention an Avatar-based CaV between two of its greatest and most informed supporters/debaters? We have Arcus1 representing Kuvira, the antagonist of Legend of Korra Book 4, against Anthp2000, representing Lin Beifong, the daughter of the great Toph Beifong. This CaV is close to completion, and it has been very riveting so far, pitting two of The Legend of Korra's greatest earth/metal benders against one another. If you are interested in Avatar, I would highly recommend checking this CaV out.

CAV: Ip Man vs Michael Myers

Last but not least, we have a rather unique CaV, featuring an iconic horror film slasher going up against a legendary martial arts master: Michael Myers vs. Ip Man. Who would have thought a CaV like this would ever come about?

We have JaylinFreeman representing Michael, and reaper4 representing Ip Man. This CaV is also close to its completion. What will happen when the physical powerhouse with a killer instinct, The Shape, goes head-to-head against the embodiment of skill and control, Master Yen? Definitely worth looking into this one.

Comics as Pedagogical Tools: Expanding Horizons in Education

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Introduction

First children's magazine launched in Brazil, created by journalist Bartolomeu de Souza and circulated between 1905 and 1977
First children's magazine launched in Brazil, created by journalist Bartolomeu de Souza and circulated between 1905 and 1977

Comics have been used in an educational manner since the 20th century, especially for children. In Brazil, publications like O Tico-Tico were popular and included activities to promote moral values. Politicians and educators had differing opinions on comics, but entrepreneurs like Irineu Marinho and Adolf Aizen promoted educational comics. Currently, comics are recognized as an important narrative form for reading development from childhood to university.

They are an autonomous art form and can be used in education to enhance reading and interpretation skills. The use of comics in the classroom requires teacher training but can bring benefits in students' skill development. Comic activities may involve interpretation, creating comic strips, and adapting literature. Comics can also be used in Portuguese language, literature, foreign language, religious education, and philosophy classes to address ethical and moral issues.

The educational landscape is evolving, recognizing diverse mediums that cater to modern learners' needs. Comics, historically seen as mere entertainment, have emerged as significant pedagogical tools. Their rich amalgamation of visual and textual storytelling offers unique avenues for exploring narratives, making complex subjects accessible and engaging. This shift reflects a broader acceptance of comics' potential to foster critical thinking, creativity, and a deeper understanding of various themes.

Literacy and Visual Storytelling

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The digital age demands proficiency in reading and interpreting both text and images. Scott McCloud, in "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art", delves into the mechanics of visual storytelling, revealing how comics synthesize words and pictures to convey stories with depth and nuance unseen in traditional texts. This synthesis is particularly beneficial in educational settings, enhancing students' comprehension and analytical skills. Stephen Cary's work, "Going Graphic: Comics at Work in the Multilingual Classroom", underscores comics' effectiveness in multilingual education, where visual narratives bridge language barriers, facilitating a more inclusive learning environment.

Exploring Complex Topics

Comics excel in presenting multifaceted issues through engaging, thought-provoking narratives. Robert G. Weiner's "Using Graphic Novels in the Classroom" illustrates how educators can employ comics to introduce and examine social, historical, and scientific discussions. This approach not only broadens students' perspectives but also encourages critical engagement with the material. Similarly, Rocco Versaci's "How Comic Books Can Change the Way Our Students See Literature" challenges traditional notions of literary merit, advocating for comics' inclusion as a legitimate form of narrative that can enrich students' literary experiences.

Case Studies: Comics in the Classroom

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The integration of comics into educational curricula has yielded positive outcomes, as documented by Katie Monnin in "Teaching Graphic Novels: Practical Strategies for the Secondary ELA Classroom". Monnin provides educators with strategies to effectively incorporate comics and graphic novels into English Language Arts instruction. James Bucky Carter's "Building Literacy Connections with Graphic Novels: Page by Page, Panel by Panel" further exemplifies comics' role in enhancing literacy and comprehension, offering concrete strategies for their application in educational settings.

Some Considerations about Working with Comics in the Classroom

  1. Comics can help develop sensitive and symbolic reasoning.
  2. Working with comics helps develop different ways of analyzing reality.
  3. To work with comics, one must understand the language of comics.
  4. It is necessary to choose the comics you want to work with in the classroom.
  5. Pedagogical commitment is essential.
  6. Comics can help develop sensitive and symbolic reasoning.
  7. Working with comics helps develop different ways of analyzing reality.
  8. To work with comics, one must understand the language of comics.
  9. It is necessary to choose the comics you want to work with in the classroom.
  10. Pedagogical commitment is essential.
  11. Schools and academia largely struggle with dealing with images, as a result of the dominance of the rationalist paradigm, which led to the belief that images are for children and therefore cannot be used for serious subjects like school content.

Educators’ Perspective

Educators incorporating comics into their teaching methodologies have observed notable improvements in student engagement and comprehension. Michael Bitz's "When Commas Meet Kryptonite: Classroom Lessons from the Comic Book Project" highlights the transformative power of student-generated comics, emphasizing their potential to foster creativity, personal expression, and narrative skills. This pedagogical approach not only diversifies the educational toolkit but also aligns with contemporary learning styles, making education more relevant and appealing to students.

Will Comics Save Education?

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The use of comics is just another strategy to achieve good results in the classroom. They are another resource and therefore cannot be solely responsible for good or poor academic performance. However, the partnership between comics and education can contribute to students developing various skills that go beyond good reading and interpretation.

Conclusion

The use of comics in education is an additional strategy to achieve good results in the classroom. While not solely responsible for students' academic performance, the partnership between comics and education can significantly contribute to the development of various skills, going beyond mere reading and interpretation. It is essential to invest in teachers' training to fully explore the potential of comics as a media resource in education.

Comics as a multifaceted educational tool, highlighting their capacity to enhance literacy, address complex subjects, and engage students effectively. By integrating comics into the curriculum, educators can offer a more inclusive, engaging learning experience that resonates with contemporary students. This approach not only diversifies pedagogical methods but also aligns with modern learning styles, potentially transforming the educational landscape. As the educational community continues to explore innovative teaching methods, comics stand as a testament to the evolving nature of learning, promising to enrich education with their unique blend of entertainment and instructional value.

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Bibliographic References

  • McCloud, Scott. "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art." HarperPerennial, 1994.
  • Cary, Stephen. "Going Graphic: Comics at Work in the Multilingual Classroom." Heinemann, 2004.
  • Weiner, Robert G. "Using Graphic Novels in the Classroom." Journal of Graphic Novels and Comics, 2012.
  • Versaci, Rocco. "How Comic Books Can Change the Way Our Students See Literature: One Teacher's Perspective." College English, 2001.
  • Monnin, Katie. "Teaching Graphic Novels: Practical Strategies for the Secondary ELA Classroom." Maupin House Publishing, 2010.
  • Carter, James Bucky. "Building Literacy Connections with Graphic Novels: Page by Page, Panel by Panel." National Council of Teachers of English, 2007.
  • Bitz, Michael. "When Commas Meet Kryptonite: Classroom Lessons from the Comic Book Project." Teachers College Press, 2010.

Extra Credits

Thanks again to @cor_tsar for creating The Daily Debater, and to @supremegeneration, @life_without_progress, @wearetheflash, @cosmicallyaware1, @krleavenger, @emperorthanos-, and @vertigo- for all their efforts on past issues, and making TDD what it is today.

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Battles

provided by both @owie and @mike_strike10! We had a bit of a mix up, but also there were almost no RTs this week so you get a double batch of battles to make up for it.

Rebirth sundipped Superman vs Titan Hulk

A very powerful Supes vs a very powerful Hulk. A classic match-up in all versions, typically connected to strength and speed, but here we have a variety of other questions, especially around dimension busting. There are also a lot of author statements, and arguments about those as well. Plus there's the question of how Superman in particular might fight in character. Check out @thedevil98's battle here.

Lanterns vs Marvel Elite Team

Again with Marvel vs DC, this time by @skywalker95. (His similar Avengers vs X-Men battle is still going strong as well.) Here we have the classics of the Green Lanterns, plus Sinestro, vs Thor, Jean Grey, Wanda, Magneto, and Sue Storm. Do Sue's powers replicate those of the Lanterns? Can Jean take them out with telepathy or can they block it? Do the Lanterns win by speed? How much will Thor absorb energy? The thread is full of people sure this, that, or the other character is useless, but not everyone agrees on which character.

Rachel Summers Vs Vision

And finally in this all-Marvel fight made by @mage101, the questions include things like, what kind of intangibility does Vision have, and can Rachel counter it? What stops Rachel from ragdolling Vision? Would Rachel's telepathy work on Vision? And what tier is Vision exactly anyway? A team-buster? Mid? And how do we scale Rachel who has been through so many changes over the years?

Does Satoru Gojo Always Win? Gojo vs Archer Gilgamesh (Fate Stay Zero)

Continuing the trend, set by Owie. We have another thread here by @sirfizzwhizz. This time putting the Strongest Soccer Vs the Strongest Heroic Spirit. Which of the strongest will come out on top?

THE TOURNAMENT FOR THE MOST POWERFUL X-MEN

We have another unique type of thread by @mage101. We see the infamous X-Men matched up against each other to see who is the strongest.

Sage Hashi vs Ifrit Sanji

Now, we have another Big Three Anime matchup. This time @silencemood puts Sanji Vs Hashirama. As usual, the Naruto and One Piece fans are having their disagreements. Which side is correct? Go see for yourself!

CAVs and Tourneys

provided by @geekryan

2023 Halloween-Themed Tourney Finals: Kurt_Saulenne vs Chris2kzombieki vs KingCrimson

This is the final match of the Halloween-Themed Tournament hosted by mr-yes. It's a 1v1v1 finale between three respectable debaters, whose characters are all themed around Halloween/horror. It's a street-level tournament with some very interesting and unique perks. The characters are all from DC, Mortal Kombat, Choujin X, and classic horror films, so you get several mediums from this one. There has only been one post so far, but hopefully this tournament ends up having a conclusion, because the characters and perks are quite fun!

Earth & Metalbending CaV: Arcus1 (Kuvira) Vs. Anthp2000 (Lin Beifong)

With the recent Netflix release of the live action Avatar: The Last Airbender series, what better time to mention an Avatar-based CaV between two of its greatest and most informed supporters/debaters? We have Arcus1 representing Kuvira, the antagonist of Legend of Korra Book 4, against Anthp2000, representing Lin Beifong, the daughter of the great Toph Beifong. This CaV is close to completion, and it has been very riveting so far, pitting two of The Legend of Korra's greatest earth/metal benders against one another. If you are interested in Avatar, I would highly recommend checking this CaV out.

CAV: Ip Man vs Michael Myers

Last but not least, we have a rather unique CaV, featuring an iconic horror film slasher going up against a legendary martial arts master: Michael Myers vs. Ip Man. Who would have thought a CaV like this would ever come about?

We have JaylinFreeman representing Michael, and reaper4 representing Ip Man. This CaV is also close to its completion. What will happen when the physical powerhouse with a killer instinct, The Shape, goes head-to-head against the embodiment of skill and control, Master Yen? Definitely worth looking into this one.

Comics as Pedagogical Tools: Expanding Horizons in Education

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Introduction

First children's magazine launched in Brazil, created by journalist Bartolomeu de Souza and circulated between 1905 and 1977
First children's magazine launched in Brazil, created by journalist Bartolomeu de Souza and circulated between 1905 and 1977

Comics have been used in an educational manner since the 20th century, especially for children. In Brazil, publications like O Tico-Tico were popular and included activities to promote moral values. Politicians and educators had differing opinions on comics, but entrepreneurs like Irineu Marinho and Adolf Aizen promoted educational comics. Currently, comics are recognized as an important narrative form for reading development from childhood to university.

They are an autonomous art form and can be used in education to enhance reading and interpretation skills. The use of comics in the classroom requires teacher training but can bring benefits in students' skill development. Comic activities may involve interpretation, creating comic strips, and adapting literature. Comics can also be used in Portuguese language, literature, foreign language, religious education, and philosophy classes to address ethical and moral issues.

The educational landscape is evolving, recognizing diverse mediums that cater to modern learners' needs. Comics, historically seen as mere entertainment, have emerged as significant pedagogical tools. Their rich amalgamation of visual and textual storytelling offers unique avenues for exploring narratives, making complex subjects accessible and engaging. This shift reflects a broader acceptance of comics' potential to foster critical thinking, creativity, and a deeper understanding of various themes.

Literacy and Visual Storytelling

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The digital age demands proficiency in reading and interpreting both text and images. Scott McCloud, in "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art", delves into the mechanics of visual storytelling, revealing how comics synthesize words and pictures to convey stories with depth and nuance unseen in traditional texts. This synthesis is particularly beneficial in educational settings, enhancing students' comprehension and analytical skills. Stephen Cary's work, "Going Graphic: Comics at Work in the Multilingual Classroom", underscores comics' effectiveness in multilingual education, where visual narratives bridge language barriers, facilitating a more inclusive learning environment.

Exploring Complex Topics

Comics excel in presenting multifaceted issues through engaging, thought-provoking narratives. Robert G. Weiner's "Using Graphic Novels in the Classroom" illustrates how educators can employ comics to introduce and examine social, historical, and scientific discussions. This approach not only broadens students' perspectives but also encourages critical engagement with the material. Similarly, Rocco Versaci's "How Comic Books Can Change the Way Our Students See Literature" challenges traditional notions of literary merit, advocating for comics' inclusion as a legitimate form of narrative that can enrich students' literary experiences.

Case Studies: Comics in the Classroom

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The integration of comics into educational curricula has yielded positive outcomes, as documented by Katie Monnin in "Teaching Graphic Novels: Practical Strategies for the Secondary ELA Classroom". Monnin provides educators with strategies to effectively incorporate comics and graphic novels into English Language Arts instruction. James Bucky Carter's "Building Literacy Connections with Graphic Novels: Page by Page, Panel by Panel" further exemplifies comics' role in enhancing literacy and comprehension, offering concrete strategies for their application in educational settings.

Some Considerations about Working with Comics in the Classroom

  1. Comics can help develop sensitive and symbolic reasoning.
  2. Working with comics helps develop different ways of analyzing reality.
  3. To work with comics, one must understand the language of comics.
  4. It is necessary to choose the comics you want to work with in the classroom.
  5. Pedagogical commitment is essential.
  6. Comics can help develop sensitive and symbolic reasoning.
  7. Working with comics helps develop different ways of analyzing reality.
  8. To work with comics, one must understand the language of comics.
  9. It is necessary to choose the comics you want to work with in the classroom.
  10. Pedagogical commitment is essential.
  11. Schools and academia largely struggle with dealing with images, as a result of the dominance of the rationalist paradigm, which led to the belief that images are for children and therefore cannot be used for serious subjects like school content.

Educators’ Perspective

Educators incorporating comics into their teaching methodologies have observed notable improvements in student engagement and comprehension. Michael Bitz's "When Commas Meet Kryptonite: Classroom Lessons from the Comic Book Project" highlights the transformative power of student-generated comics, emphasizing their potential to foster creativity, personal expression, and narrative skills. This pedagogical approach not only diversifies the educational toolkit but also aligns with contemporary learning styles, making education more relevant and appealing to students.

Will Comics Save Education?

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The use of comics is just another strategy to achieve good results in the classroom. They are another resource and therefore cannot be solely responsible for good or poor academic performance. However, the partnership between comics and education can contribute to students developing various skills that go beyond good reading and interpretation.

Conclusion

The use of comics in education is an additional strategy to achieve good results in the classroom. While not solely responsible for students' academic performance, the partnership between comics and education can significantly contribute to the development of various skills, going beyond mere reading and interpretation. It is essential to invest in teachers' training to fully explore the potential of comics as a media resource in education.

Comics as a multifaceted educational tool, highlighting their capacity to enhance literacy, address complex subjects, and engage students effectively. By integrating comics into the curriculum, educators can offer a more inclusive, engaging learning experience that resonates with contemporary students. This approach not only diversifies pedagogical methods but also aligns with modern learning styles, potentially transforming the educational landscape. As the educational community continues to explore innovative teaching methods, comics stand as a testament to the evolving nature of learning, promising to enrich education with their unique blend of entertainment and instructional value.

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Bibliographic References

  • McCloud, Scott. "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art." HarperPerennial, 1994.
  • Cary, Stephen. "Going Graphic: Comics at Work in the Multilingual Classroom." Heinemann, 2004.
  • Weiner, Robert G. "Using Graphic Novels in the Classroom." Journal of Graphic Novels and Comics, 2012.
  • Versaci, Rocco. "How Comic Books Can Change the Way Our Students See Literature: One Teacher's Perspective." College English, 2001.
  • Monnin, Katie. "Teaching Graphic Novels: Practical Strategies for the Secondary ELA Classroom." Maupin House Publishing, 2010.
  • Carter, James Bucky. "Building Literacy Connections with Graphic Novels: Page by Page, Panel by Panel." National Council of Teachers of English, 2007.
  • Bitz, Michael. "When Commas Meet Kryptonite: Classroom Lessons from the Comic Book Project." Teachers College Press, 2010.

Extra Credits

Thanks again to @cor_tsar for creating The Daily Debater, and to @supremegeneration, @life_without_progress, @wearetheflash, @cosmicallyaware1, @krleavenger, @emperorthanos-, and @vertigo- for all their efforts on past issues, and making TDD what it is today.