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That is pretty much what the debate would have come down to in a regular CAV between these two, that's why I wanted to check which version of Aquaman you wanted to use.

In any case, an admirable opener, I like what you've done. Will probably get my response up on Thursday.

Even though I'm anti-gun, I'm no longer pro banning guns per se, some slightly stricter gun control laws would be nice if the American congress could drop their hard on for the right to bear arms. But shifting this to a gun control debate as the Left has done ignores the blatant religious extremism motivating what happened in Orlando and the tragic deaths of over 50 people. Even factoring in this supposed new gay evidence, the shooter probably got to the point in his ISIS support views that he was disgusted by his gay tendencies and thought in the most sick and twisted way that shooting up the club would cleanse him of his sin and allow him martyrdom.

1. Kuvira, her neutral jing was especially impressive in her first fight with a weakened Korra, she should be able to work around Amon's subtle bloodbending if he can't go all out with it.
2. Kuvira, a couple fodder Metalbenders actually managed to give Mako and Bolin some trouble. They have better extension feats than the Equalists, who were eventually overpowered.
3. I assume the giant mech is staying out of this? If so, Kuvira's army was more organised and coordinated, and her technology in the powered armour suits was more mobile and flexible than the first gen power armour mechs.

@atheistknowledge: @ghostravage Thoughts on the above post?

As someone who does think Thor and Bill could edge out Round 1 with a decent majority, I still feel like there are misinterpretations about what the Hammer Bros will fight like. Not on Beta Ray Bill because I don't disagree that he uses Stormbreaker's more esoteric powerset when fighting all manner of opponents. Thor on the other hand does not fight nearly as smartly.

• He has used the God Blast 5 times if you count all of his history BUT he has only used it against a mortal enemy once, and the Godblast didn't KO Juggernaut.
• The Winds of a Thousand Worlds has been used just twice and both were against gods or a Skyfather level opponent, Glory, not Hulk.
• BFR has been used against Juggernaut and the Destroyer and I admit it could be used against Hulk BUT the one time Thor used BFR in a fight with Hulk, it was to take them both to an isolated world where they could continue to fight, not as a means of winning. That has been overlooked. It also counts as proof that Hulk is a foe Thor cannot overpower or defeat with brute force or raw power as that was why Thor BFRed Juggernaut and the Destroyer, they were foes he could not beat conventionally.
• Energy blasts and absorption is the next recourse and there are showings of modern Thor using these attacks in the 90s and early 2000s, not just the 60s-80s. However, after Thor's return in 2007, this began the long consistent showings of Thor relying on 3 simplistic tactics in combat; hammer strikes, hammer throws with the occasional lightning thrown in. The last time Thor has recently used energy absorption was on the Godbomb, and that was a plot device so all the gods could be saved, not a combat relevant showing. It was also done with 2 Mjolnirs and killed Thor doing so.
• That leaves lightning and Mjolnir. It's true Hulk was KOed by one bolt of lightning in Hulk Annual 2001 but it is also true Hulk withstood such similar bolts of lightning head on prior to that. I find it clear to argue Thor got in a sucker bolt of lightning, just as Hulk sucker punched Thor and KOed him in 3 blows on their way back to Earth.
• As for Mjolnir, planet busting striking power is the main point of contention here. I do believe Thor is a planet buster but only through maximum exertion of him hitting with Mjolnir. The first time Thor used genuine planetary force was on Exitar and I believe he was wearing the Belt of Strength as well in that story, which doubles Thor's strength. The only other real time Thor has used planetary force is against Gorr and the narration does state Thor's fingers and bones were cracking from the exertion Thor was putting out. The one in Blood and Thunder is probably an asteroid, I did think it was a planet busting feat but it's not if you compare the scale of the planet. He can't do it as casually as WBH or Surfer.

As for arguments for Thor and Bill winning, I would advise you do so through teamwork and Bill's willingness to cut loose, Thor has very clear instances where he does not go all out due to CIS or having a rivalry with the Hulk which would prevent him BFRing or spamming Godblasts/Winds of a Thousand Worlds on WWH/WBH.

Marvel.Com Interview with Greg Pak on Totally Awesome Hulk #7

And according to the Bleeding Cool rumour mill, Civil War II #2 will reveal that Banner will apparently have been hiding in Utah all this time .

Hypothetical battles like this aren't allowed I believe.

T4V, Ghazan is an Avatar character I represent and appreciate seeing represented in debates, especially by an ATLA debater as capable as Arcus.

@deathhero61 Well Zhao is a moon buster so Ghazan might have his work cut out for him.

I would like to see actual verifiable proof of this because I have seen very few praises from the GA outside of the BvS fanboys who think the movie can do no wrong. Jesse's detractors are categorically not in the minority, there's plenty of proof which disproves your assertion. As for the second bit...let me know when you want a better sparring partner, I'll take you up any day on Jesse Eisenberg's acting capabilities. I've seen several of his movies and all he knows how to do is play Jesse Eisenberg in every one of them. The very notion of him being the best live action Lex Luthor is simply laughable and not credible to me by any stretch of the imagination. Spin all you want, you're not going to convince anyone that he's a good Lex Luthor.

Trump will make Pokemon great again. We're talking Gen 1 & 2 levels of great with Trump's Pokemon insight.