@lvenger: out of curiosity, why do you disagree on frozens phasing point?
Simply put, Superman hasn't shown the inclination or the tactical ingenuity to think of using phasing in an offensive way. He can still use it defensively but there's no proof he can use it like Flash or MMH can.
@ghostravage: Unfortunately I have to disagree on Hulk's planet busting feat being more impressive. Thor's one shattered another planetoid indirectly without even touching it. To harm another planet whilst you're fighting on another one is a major striking feat to say the least. It's definitely equal to Hulk's planet busting one and I honestly regard Thor shattering 2 planets/moons with Mjolnir, one indirectly, more impressive than Hulk's Dark Dimension one. Mjolnir has also performed better striking feats than Hulk technically.
But for the record, I also disagree with Frozen's point on Superman vibrating Hulk's organs out so you're not the only one I differ on.
If you guys say you'd have trouble compressing your pull list down to fewer comics, my comic reading is not only comprised of a small pull list but I'm also a month behind on the titles I read too due to an online subscription. There aren't any comic shops near where I live so I have no other way of reading physical comics outside of trade waiting.
@New_World_Order: Do you think the team can win here then without Mjolnir and superspeed? And when are you having your CAV with @green_skaar? That's gonna be one for the ages. And I'll bite the hook; what are these ways Marvel has indicated that Thor>Hulk without directly saying so?
I'm also a big fan of the Percy Jackson series so technically I could use Leo if I wanted to. Or another Percy Jackson character. Who else are you thinking of that can use Percy Jackson related characters.
@winter_kills: And it's a perfectly valid point to make. But one thing I'm utterly bemused about is people wanting these changes to be permanent. I read an article on Comicosity where the writer said that he wanted Marvel's Trinity to be completed by having Tony Stark coming out as gay. WTF is this BS? Not only does that take away Tony's suave and womanising charm, it would be a change that came out of nowhere. Just like this female Thor announcement. People think this is progressive and forward thinking but all it involves is latching the new characters as being defined by their relation to the originals. Thus demeaning both the new and original characters.
Exactly right! It is BS. You can't take an established character & turn them into something they're not. Especially when they are iconic, as Marvel's Trinity are. People that thinks that any of these moronic changes will be permanent are going to be badly fooled. These are only temporary changes, done for pure controversy & PR hype. Gimmicks, & they never last. For example, Eric Masterson. I know media wasn't the way it is now, but I doubt anyone believed that it would be permanent & that the true Thor wouldn't come back. Another example is changes with DC's Trinity: for example, I remember when they did the whole Superman Blue thing & changed his iconic look & powers, it was very controversial; & then Knightfall, which had Azrael become Batman; and Wonder Woman, with Diana losing the title of WW to Artemis. It's the same pattern- it was controversial changes to legendary icons that gave PR exposure & temporary boost in sales, but at the end of the day, the changes weren't permanent. People- the true fans- wanted those iconic characters back- & they all returned. Now all these events are considered minor footnotes in their storied histories. And it'll be the same way with what Marvel's doing with their Big 3- they have that PR boost, & then things will revert to normal. Doesn't make it any less annoying or irritating to longtime fans, though. 10 years from now, people won't be remembering this female Thor analogue- people will be remembering the one, the true, the Mighty Thor. The same way with Cap & Tony Stark. These characters have endless potential for new stories- you don't have to radically change them or replace them to do new, fresh & interesting things with them. Especially with Thor, when there is plenty of material from hundreds of years of mythology & folklore to be explored through the Marvel lens.
Well said, couldn't agree more with your points entirely.