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Hakai.

No way Dabra loses to a Cell thats only using a pre-self destruct level of power, like in this fan comic.

Dabra is described as way stronger than Cell, so Dabra should handily beat post Zenkai Cell.

Saitama cannot be beaten. That's the whole point of the character.

@gokuss4z: Whis said that Jiren had reached the state of the Gods of Destruction, and perhaps even surpassed it. And this was before breaking his limits. So Pre LB Jiren>=GoDs

Later he got a huge power up so he should far surpass the level of the GoDs

@u_wot_m8: Ssb Gogeta couldn't put Broly down either, and went for a killing shot at the end. Goku couldn't go for a killing shot vs Jiren in the tournament setting. And pre LB Jiren wasn't keeping up with mui Goku. He was getting wrecked badly and Goku was just toying with him.

@skrskr: Broly is maybe stronger than Beerus. Jiren has perhaps surpassed the state of the Gods(pre limit breaking).

Both received similar Whoopings from MUI Goku and SSB Gogeta respectively.

So power wise , MUI Goku and SSB Gogeta look to be similar, and pre LB Jiren looks to be similar to FP Broly. Also LB Jiren was initially more powerful than MUI Goku.

@programmerseth: movie 10 broly is much stronger than ssj2 adult Gohan who is stronger than Cell.

I think FP Broly is around the same as FP pre limit breaking Jiren.

Ssb Gogeta I think is probably around Initial MUI Goku level.

Limit Breaking Jiren was able to overpower Initial MUI Goku on a few occasions and would've had him down for the count if it wasn't for friendship power boosts.

I'm leaning towards Jiren soloing here.

Pre ToP, Toppo should take rounds 1 and 3. Imo kkx10 should be enough for Goku to take fp base Toppo out.

Movie 8 broly loses.

Movie 10 Broly defeats SPC easier than he did adult ssj2 Gohan.