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Marvel Cinematic Universe, what films come next

we all know that, while DC is the king of Cartoons, and regardless of some characters still being MIA, having a better comic writer feel right now (A recent poll on Comic Vine shows that of about 59 voters, only a quarter fave Marvel's writers over DC's.

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However, Marvel wins at movies. And for the movies, the biggest question is what's next?

The next six movies in order are Iron Man 3 (Featuring Mandarin with rumors for Wasp and Namor), Thor: Dark World (hello dark elves) Captain America: The Winter soldier (Bucky and Falcon), Guardians of the Galaxy (Trees and Raccoons oh my), Avengers 2 and Ant Man.

But, what is there to expect? How do these movies connect?

DC: bad at movies, excellent Cartoons
DC: bad at movies, excellent Cartoons

How do they fit into their shared universe?

Iron Man is featuring Mandarin, which could lead to Fin Fang Foom, whose an alien, which could tie to Guardians. If Wasp appears, that ties to Ant Man. If Namor pops up, that could tie in with both Captain America, Ant Man and Avengers (He was around in WW2, Hank will apparently pop up in the fifties and Atlantis could attack in Avengers 2)

Thor is dealing with a world falling into darkness, which could be connected to Death, aka Thanos, aka Avenegers 2. Also, Thor is the most sci fi title, oddly enough, so it could tie in with the Guardians.

Captain America, if he's searching for a Winter Soldier Bucky, will have history to deal with. Like say, Hank Pym old history. And isn't one of the Guardians an earthling? I'm not an expert on them, but its possible this has connection to the Guardians.

We only know about these movies in any significant plot detail, so I can't say what will pop up with the others.

Then, there is the inevitable question, of what comes after?

Potential movie fodder
Potential movie fodder

Of Marvel's cast of characters, the only ones I believe are not usable are the FF, X-Men, Spiderman, Ghost Rider, Blade and Punisher verses as Daredevil's rights are Marvel's again. And of them, talk of crossovers between the the X-Men (And most likely the FF by extension) and Spiderma movie verses are there.

So, what's next

Black Panther and Namor

The two guys with the cameo mentions in Iron Man and Captain America, such as map locations and Vibranium. So, they are possible, but there are issues

Twitch...
Twitch...

Namor.... flies around in Robin shorts, has wings on his feet and is practically Marvel's Aquaman. The only way this could generate movie revenue is he has to make some Hulk in Avengers moments to get public interest.

He also needs pants

Marvel's attempt at Justice League that would have worked better with less executive rehashing
Marvel's attempt at Justice League that would have worked better with less executive rehashing

Now, I used to like Black Panther. I don't read Marvel Comics, but I watch the cartoons. Its from there I first ran into BP. Here, he had action, dead pan snarking and was pretty much Marvel Batman.

Then in comics I found out he was married to Storm, a character I rather like. That gave him so much awesome points I'd have watched his movie in a heartbeat.

Then....

So you can say, my private opinion of his is very, very sour now. Its worse than One More Day, and a crowning reason why Marvel's comic writers just suck. At least when DC decided to refresh their character's romances, they used cosmic retcons. Not jerk moments

Really, if they wanted to experiment with A-List make ups, use another universe. Marvel has one after all...
Really, if they wanted to experiment with A-List make ups, use another universe. Marvel has one after all...

The characters weren't derailed, and I have not seen it fit to have Black Panther die from cancer, a long, draw out cancer like Mar-Vel. Believe me, if I ever write comics and get anywhere near T'Challa, I will give him a storyline that makes Daredevil's life look wonderful...pre Elekra.

Really, why didn't Cap give him the Ultimate Hank treatment?

Could be be a good movie character....well yes he could. But I won't like it.

Hulk and Daredevil

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Two characters who had pre-Marvel made movies that had critical problems, they are now in the firm hands of Marvel, with Hulk's movie potential re unlocked by his Avengers performance

Daredevil has cult fans of his first fan, and I am sure he can beat its performance with the directors at Marvel. Though, can he really fit into the Cinematic universe. He didn't fit into Ultimate after all....

And Hulk....the main problem is the storylines that are brought up for his movies: World War Hulk and Planet Hulk.

To do those movies, you need certain characters. Namely the Illuminati, which while you have Tony, you also need several others

Skrull likeness aside, it does heighten the Illuminati faults
Skrull likeness aside, it does heighten the Illuminati faults

Mr. Fantastic is off limits, as is Professor X without the proper X-over. That leaves Namor, Doctor Strange and Black Bolt, which could work...but with Black Bolt most likely in FF territory, that leaves a small Illuminati.

So, they might need to rethink their movies

Doctor Strange

The Supreme is Back
The Supreme is Back

If they want to do a Hulk film like above, Doctor Strange is desperately needed. He has a Iron Man like personality that could show the story of his rise to power in a similar way Iron Man did.

But, could he be too similar?

There is also the problem of the Doctor Strange world. Doctor Strange deals with a sort that is similar in special effects needing as Thor. But, with Marvel suggesting 20-40 million dollar budgets for a Doctor Strange film....it might just burn to watch.

Also, this guy can't carry a comic, how can he carry a movie? Though, seeing as that's something for Hank and the Guardians too...it all depends on how well they do.

Luke Cage and Iron Fist

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Call them Bendis babies if you want, these guys have some connection possibilities. Luke Cage was used as an experiment to replicate Cap, like how Hulk was. Compared to some other powers, these two's powers would easily be animated and their evolution from mercenaries to true heroes would be an interesting story.

Even under a 20-40 million budget.

Though I might prefer they use Cage's current costume.

Power Pack and Runaways

I am not kidding, Power Pack is one of the ideas that was tossed about by Marvel, and Runaways is said to have a movie planned somewhere, but delayed by Avengers.

And here, Disney might be a good thing

Marvel meets Disney
Marvel meets Disney

I've heard a lot of people complaining about Disney buying Marvel, but think about it a moment. Disney has tons of experience with kid stuff. They's be perfect for dealing with those teams, though probably more so Power Pack than Runaways.

And, universe fitting aside, I'm not sure either could work, if they release one movie, could they release the other?

Could they even do Runaways with Molly being a mutant and Xavin being a skrull? Well, Xavin might not be needed at first, but Molly is the comic's breakout character.

End Words

Marvel has a lot going for its film franchise. It has many options, even those not said here. Vision, Miss Marvel, the Maximoff Twins, Nova, even apparently Cable and Dazzler (Hey, I read the official press release about future films)

DC needs to get itself in gear to match it, or just wait for Marvel to bankrupt itself again as its stories continue to suck and DC's shine above it.

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i dont know if i agree with some of what you said here dude. Dr Strange is supposedly gonna feature in the next Thor movie, kinda like the Eye of Agamotto in Thor 1. Fin Fang Foom wont (i assume) be in Iron Man 3 because the movie is centered around the Extremis virus (i.e. almost the Armor Wars), having a giant alien dragon running arouind wont make much sense. If dragons are gonna be used itll most likely be in a Thor movie. WWH and Planet Hulk wont be used for the next Hulk movies (if there are any). Planet Hulk needs too many other characters involved (like you said), not to mention most of the Illuminati would feature better in their own solo or team movies then they would in a Hulk cameo. WWH wont happen because the movies are geared towards people liking the Hulk and almost feeling sorry for him, watching him destroy New York wont win him any friends. i dont see the Xmen movies crossing over with anyone else anytime soon, the movies are pretty conveluted they need another trilogy or two to make them make sense. Tony Stark and Stephen Strange's personalities arent that similar, sure theyre both arrogant in their own fields but it doesnt go much beyond that. Supposedly theres gonna be 2 new members joing the team in Avengers 2, id like to see Black Panther and/or Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch show up. Who would you rather see?

Black Panther and Storm' relationship ending did suck, ill agree, but at the same time neither of those characters did a whole lot during their marriage. essentially they became stale, Storm stopping hangin out with the X-men, and BP lost his title to his younger sister. Aside from a few random pop ups and DoomWar (which i think was a pretty awesome book) they sat on the shelf waiting. neither character deserves that and if their marriage disolving is what it takes to make them big names once again, ill buy the ticket and ride the ride.

how do you feel about Marvel putting work into not only their Cinematic movie-verse but also their television-verse? will the SHIELD tv show work on getting smaller properties out there to new readers/watchers? i personally think Luke Cage and Iron FIst could work really well as a tv show. likewise Runaways would work almost perfectly as a tv show.

i dont know that Marvel will go bankrupt again, theres so much merchandise aside from comics that they pump out. maybe its just where i live but i dont see kids buying Green Lantern or Superman toys, but Spidey and Wolverine are always hot sellers.

p.s. Mar-vell's death was drawn out for a reason. it showed that despit that glitz and glamor, despite the fancy suits and amazing abilities, heroes are still like the rest of us. they can be brought down by some of the most humbling things known to man. Sure Supes gettin beaten to death and Bats getting 'blown up ina copter' were crazy ways to bite the bullet but what does it leave you with? at the end of the day the comics that mean the most to me are the ones that showcase the human condition. its like that veteran player who never gets that chance to win the Stanley Cup/Super Bowl/ or World Cup because he ends up with a career ending injury. Your heart goes out for the guy because you know the way he wants to end his career, but due to shitty happenstance he never gets the chance. Mar was a hero and deserve to die on the battlefield like the best of them, cancer really is a b*tch

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@kid Apollo said:

i dont know if i agree with some of what you said here dude. Dr Strange is supposedly gonna feature in the next Thor movie, kinda like the Eye of Agamotto in Thor 1. Fin Fang Foom wont (i assume) be in Iron Man 3 because the movie is centered around the Extremis virus (i.e. almost the Armor Wars), having a giant alien dragon running arouind wont make much sense. If dragons are gonna be used itll most likely be in a Thor movie. WWH and Planet Hulk wont be used for the next Hulk movies (if there are any). Planet Hulk needs too many other characters involved (like you said), not to mention most of the Illuminati would feature better in their own solo or team movies then they would in a Hulk cameo. WWH wont happen because the movies are geared towards people liking the Hulk and almost feeling sorry for him, watching him destroy New York wont win him any friends. i dont see the Xmen movies crossing over with anyone else anytime soon, the movies are pretty conveluted they need another trilogy or two to make them make sense. Tony Stark and Stephen Strange's personalities arent that similar, sure theyre both arrogant in their own fields but it doesnt go much beyond that. Supposedly theres gonna be 2 new members joing the team in Avengers 2, id like to see Black Panther and/or Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch show up. Who would you rather see?

Black Panther and Storm' relationship ending did suck, ill agree, but at the same time neither of those characters did a whole lot during their marriage. essentially they became stale, Storm stopping hangin out with the X-men, and BP lost his title to his younger sister. Aside from a few random pop ups and DoomWar (which i think was a pretty awesome book) they sat on the shelf waiting. neither character deserves that and if their marriage disolving is what it takes to make them big names once again, ill buy the ticket and ride the ride.

how do you feel about Marvel putting work into not only their Cinematic movie-verse but also their television-verse? will the SHIELD tv show work on getting smaller properties out there to new readers/watchers? i personally think Luke Cage and Iron FIst could work really well as a tv show. likewise Runaways would work almost perfectly as a tv show.

i dont know that Marvel will go bankrupt again, theres so much merchandise aside from comics that they pump out. maybe its just where i live but i dont see kids buying Green Lantern or Superman toys, but Spidey and Wolverine are always hot sellers.

p.s. Mar-vell's death was drawn out for a reason. it showed that despit that glitz and glamor, despite the fancy suits and amazing abilities, heroes are still like the rest of us. they can be brought down by some of the most humbling things known to man. Sure Supes gettin beaten to death and Bats getting 'blown up ina copter' were crazy ways to bite the bullet but what does it leave you with? at the end of the day the comics that mean the most to me are the ones that showcase the human condition. its like that veteran player who never gets that chance to win the Stanley Cup/Super Bowl/ or World Cup because he ends up with a career ending injury. Your heart goes out for the guy because you know the way he wants to end his career, but due to shitty happenstance he never gets the chance. Mar was a hero and deserve to die on the battlefield like the best of them, cancer really is a b*tch

  • I suggested Fin Fing Foom because of the Mandarin
  • Eye of Agomoto in Thor? First I've heard of it
  • I read the official reports themselves. The only character I listed here who does not have rumors in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is Daredevil
  • I Wouldn't mind them either. Though I'm told they would have to omit their mutancy
  • It could be done.
  • The bankruptcy was a reference to how I have heard a lot more hate about Marvel's recent stuff than DC's.