kenshiroo

"kenshiroo said:

"NOPE, PROVE IT !!"

OK. Superman has helped moved a planet on several occasions and just recently been able to virtually move it on his own with a little help from Hal Jordan (who provided a harness for him), and that weighs several times more than what the Hulk has ever lifted. He's even lifted the Spectre along with the help of Wonder Woman. It's said that Spectre weighs 'an eternity'. Sounds like infinite mass to me. If Supes can lift more, he can hit harder, too. I remember in his fight with Zod, there were throwing punches that generated shockwaves powerful enough to destroy a planet. Superman moves and reacts too fast for Hulk to do anything to him. He moves 10 times the speed of thought, several times the speed of sound in on Earth, and 18 times the speed of light in space. Even on Earth, if Superman were to speed blitz the Hulk, Hulk couldn't do anything about it because he wouldn't be able to see it coming. And, even if the Hulk wanted to hit him, Superman would dance around him all day. Superman could toss him into orbit before he even realizes it.
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"Alpha said:

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"SUNMAN said:

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"SUNMAN said:

"come on people once you guys start arguing a scan we can all see clearly in front of our eyes something is wrong"

See what?

The Unstoppable is having trouble move the Hulk?
Or that he is moving him (by moving forward) but the Juggernaut's ability to do this is more than just strength

What are you saying?
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both, but I do not know where you are getting this more than just strength idea. I think you are reading to much into this."

So you think what maked the Juggernaut unstoppable when he moves is just strength and not the mystical power of Cytorrak?
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No. His strength is derived from the mystical power of Cyttorak, the two are one in the same. All of Juggs powers come from Cytorrak, without Cyttorak he is nothing. His strength and magical ability is one in the same you cannot seperate them."

Ok. I see where you are going. So if it's just strength and since Cytorrak is not omni-potent and definitely not outside his dimension, there are limits to his power, so Juggernaut  can be over powered by a being that is stronger?
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It depends, but yes. An example would be a cosmic being like Galactus or someone in that League. I would argue his physical strength has certain limits, but his invulnerability has no limits. I'd say he is one of the strongest if not the strongest on Marvel Earth. And I personally think a full powered Juggernaut is stronger than Hulk. In large part due to his invulnerability. Still Juggs still has his weaknesses once you remove his helmet. But it depends on the incarnations. In the comics Jugg is practically unstoppable. While in cartoons and movies he is not as impressive."

"Alpha said:

"SUNMAN said:

"Alpha said:

"SUNMAN said:

"come on people once you guys start arguing a scan we can all see clearly in front of our eyes something is wrong"

See what?

The Unstoppable is having trouble move the Hulk?
Or that he is moving him (by moving forward) but the Juggernaut's ability to do this is more than just strength

What are you saying?
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both, but I do not know where you are getting this more than just strength idea. I think you are reading to much into this."

So you think what maked the Juggernaut unstoppable when he moves is just strength and not the mystical power of Cytorrak?
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No. His strength is derived from the mystical power of Cyttorak, the two are one in the same. All of Juggs powers come from Cytorrak, without Cyttorak he is nothing. His strength and magical ability is one in the same you cannot seperate them."

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kenshiroo said:

"What do you mean erik??"

What Erik is saying is that even if you can say your point of view around here, others can say whatever they want about it. Hence, this is an open (public) thread. You're entitled to your opinion and you can sit here and think it's right because you're the one saying. But, don't be surprised when someone says something against it (especially when it doesn't make sense). We're allowed to do that here. If you don't like it, keep your viewpoints and opinions to yourself.

kenshiroo said:

"and atphantom: "Superman would wipe the floor with Juggernaut" but NOT HULK!!  "

He's owns the Hulk too.

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What do you mean erik??

and atphantom: "Superman would wipe the floor with Juggernaut" but NOT HULK!!  

is that your opinion man, I have my own aswers thats all! you cant to impose your viewpoint over that of others!!
Youre Wrong Dude! 

Could be atphantom!!

SO JUGGERNAUT'S CALCULATE STRENGTH IIN PHYSICS      F= M x A  

                                                                          F= Force
                                                                          A= Acceleration
                                                                          M= Mass

Hulk was being pushed back by JUGGERNAUT'S STRENGTH IN WWH, SO HULK MORE ENRAGED THAN EVER CANNOT WIN THE TEST OF THE STRENGTH AND CANNOT KILL THE JUGGERNAUT THAT SUPOSSED HE CAN ONLY IMAGINE!!

Ecuation:
Magic Cittorak Force = Invulnerability + Pure Physical Strenght  + Foward Motion