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#1 jaywray

@jaywray:

Are you talking about 1% of his final form? Or are you just talking about his base form? Also, how can you say DBZ characters are multi-planet busters+++++++++ and then say busting a solar system is debatable? The two seem mostly even unless i'm misinterpreting the meaning of those + signs

No I meant that his first form is only 1% of his overall power unless I'm missing something?

I said debatable because I class a Solar System buster as someone capable of taking out a solar system in 1 go, I'm sure if you lined all the planets up that DBZ characters would easily be solar system plus, it's just there's a hell of a lot of space... in space, that's where my issue comes in, I don't think they could take out an entire solar system in one go.

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#2  Edited By jaywray

I agree with SSJLozza, SSJG Goku has to be a Galaxy Buster, common knowledge and ABC logic are all you need. SSJ2 can beat up LSSJ Broly at this point, and SSJ3 to Gode mode should be enough proof to make Goku barely destroy a galaxy

You're scaling canon of non canon, it cannot be done.

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#3 jaywray

Frieza casually planet busts with 1% power, people still trying to claim DBZ characters aren't multi-planet busters+++++++ are living in a fantasy. Solar system is debatable I guess.

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God damnit really... I mean really? Galactus stomps. Please stop, as a fricken huge DBZ fan, please stop.

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@smxlr8: Your right but it'll still be close. I think it could go either way though.

How in any way, SSJ1 Goku would stomp Hulk.

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#6  Edited By jaywray

@onilordasmodeus said:

The latest batch of clones Naruto sent out have WAY more chakra than the normal, base clones Naruto normally uses. OP says no Kyubi chakra (which was used to create the clones in question), so that feat / those clones are out. Point to another case in which a clone has taken damage, any damage, and not faded away.

If you're going to go that far we basically cant use any ninjutsu for Naruto, we never really know when the Kyubi is helping him other than when he's got a cloak or some other form of physical change, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen other wise for any ninjutsu, asking for the Kyubi to be completely taking out is like saying calculate the answer to a math question without any of the numbers.

EDIT : Hmm, I may take this back, as it seems that other guy was talking about while he's in his form of Bijuu mode?

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#7 jaywray

@18hunt: You're using every version of Sonic? Wouldn't that be like them using every version of Thor?

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#8  Edited By jaywray

@batman242: H

ere is what I don't get. People go above and beyond to pick all the whacky, toon force like versions of Goku and then turn around and pick out the weakest or least Developed versions of Superman possible. That's just such a puss thing to do.

If Goku is so great, why not put him against Prime. (Who as far as I know is very much canon to DC story.) Wasn't Prime mashing entire dimension or something to that effect. At another point, didn't Prime live through the Big Bang?? Like really?

People talk about all these high end feats for Goku, which really aren't all that amazing given that half of them don't compare to Superman at his full power before being nerfed repeatedly so that can keep selling the comic or recon't for the exact same reason.

At there full power, if Goku and Superman ever fought, no morals, Goku would died, end of story. This is just stupid.

Such insightful and inspiring input. Thank you.

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#9  Edited By jaywray

@jaywray:

My bad. I wasn't paying attention; though the OP hasn't been updated if that is the case anyway.

My argument has revolved around Naruto not being able to blitz at base, not in SM or Kyubi.

Regardless, I hope my argument is clearer to anyone reading.

I was never confused, I knew what you meant man lol, I was just saying Naruto WOULD blitz in SM, because you and I were talking about it before and I was replying to then lol.

I edited my previous message, and addressed some of your points.
Tbh I think there may as well be a better thread where the specifics are known.

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@jaywray said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Oblivion is end of multi/universe, so in the end he will be the most powerfull Abstract.

Do you have any evidence or anything to support that claim? Statement.. anything?

Since it wasn't the main point of this thread, I wasn't looking for any.

My opinion is based on few facts, mostly on what was shown in whole "The Mighty Thor annual 2012".

Oh fair play, well that's pretty cool, I'm a bit behind with Thor from mid 2012, so ill take your word for it, it's actually something to look forward to lol.