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You mean those sparsely shown feats once every couple of decades? To contrast the dozens of times he had all the opportunity in the world to show them but never did and failed to showcase his faster than numerous street level characters, mid-tiers, slow bricks and powerhouses. Not to mention the fact that half of those less than handful of a feats don't even belong to 616 Gladiator. Your inability to come to terms with this fact is why you are such a fanboy. Actually that's flat out false as Iceman only operates on a higher level when he is morals off or in a very dire situation, this is why your normal Iceman doesn't appear that impressive. My problem is not with the writers, my problem is with you twisting their intent and wanking their characters. He couldn't harm WM? Then whats this blood coming out of his mouth?

Or the fact that script for the issue itself confirming that WM was in agony.

I know you are butthurt and jealous of them but there is no reason to deny reality it just hurts you further. Also you are really silly if you think they are gonna have Hulk just outright kill WM there, they barely ever show heroes killing villains let alone each other, don't be ridiculous.

Umm where was it shown that he was BARELY able to take down a group of C-list characters? He went through all of them with little to no effort at all, nearly one-shotting all including 2 characters that Gladiator struggled against in the past, which is icing on the cake. Rulk wasn't wounded he had heart problems which he had always because those heart problems limit how long he can stay as Rulk, he still got mangled by Hulk and failed to actually really harm him in turn. Damn i've never seen this level of denial. I mean you just flat out stated several lies, this is actually quite amusing.

The world blowing up is not what killed Hulk, it was him fighting an equally powerful being that killed him. There was never a WBH after that so how can we see him doing it again? Storm fanboys? LMAO, this level of salt is amazing.

How does it feel like even in wonderland?

Wow Immortal Hulk gave Wonder Man a little cut on his lip, man that's a huge feat that'll one shot everyone; said by no one ever and the script means nothing as we go by what happens on panel and Wonder Man was fine. Gladiator has moved faster than the Hulk and plenty of others consistently and that's solely going by 616 feats and Iceman normally operates above Hulk as it's why Hulk scouts can't describe a single way Hulk could ever beat Iceman but we Iceman fans can state numerous ways otherwise hahahaha. Lets see Herc is no where close to his previous levels and Jane Thor was no where near her level during her fight with Mangog etc as it's why many agreed Jane Force Thor would defeat Hulk since Aaron wrote her above Thor Hulk etc during her arc.

Gladiator never struggled with Cannonball either as he came looking for help and was holding back until the end when Cannonball did a one time feat and redirected Gladiator's world killing punch back upon him, which didn't keep him down nor wound him, The living lighting feat again is suspicious and by that point Gladiator had went through Wonder Man (Immortal Hulk couldn't) and was defeating Thor with his combat speed until he was attacked by a third party, yea he really struggled when you low ball and take it out of context like the Hulk scouts usually do.

I said Rulk was wounded beforehand which he was as it's why he needed the patriot armor so how did i lie as that's what happened on panel by showing how weak Rulk was in the previous issue. Immortal Hulk beating down a weakened Rulk is not impressive at all and to state as such is ridiculous considering Iceman beat down a healthy Rulk while holding back.

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@hellionvulcan: Umm yea, that was my point we are a group of biased individuals, luckily some of us can control those levels of bias, others are unlucky, sorry.

Hahahaha you and others don't control it in the slightest but that's the type of nonsense hypocrites say.

I do actually, i mean you can't even point out what is bias about anything i said about certain characters.

You tagged three users and called us bias with zero proof of such and now you want me to point out some as you can look into any Hulk thread vs Zeus/Thanos etc where people think Hulk would win, Stop with the nonsense as you and the Hulk scouts are the worst biased group on this site.

I actually did point out to the other guy, your wanking of Gladiators non-existent speed, your wanking of Apoc non-existent abilities and power level, same with Iceman, though i personally believe Iceman is very powerful as well you somehow unsurprisingly manage to even ruin that by overwanking him as well. The icing on the cake was probably when you called Immortal Hulk unimpressive LMAO. Of course there are some idiots that think Hulk can beat Zeus/Thanos, there are always idiots like that, i don't know what that has to do with me since i never advocated for such things nor can i control what others say. How so? What have i advocated that Hulk can do that he can't do or hasn't already done? That's actually a flat out lie and you know it, when some of the worst users on this site like whoisthebest, brony were Thor fanboys and theonewhoknows was a Superman fanboy, there a bunch of others that have fanboyed certain characters so hard they literally turned into a meme famous even outside the battle forums. Yet you can't actually point to a single Hulk fanboy that has done anything close to what those users did. GhostRavage, TheDailyBagle, AcidSkull, Battle123axe, are all very knowledgable and i don't remember them ever wanking Hulk doing things he can't do or do you wanna point out to a specific time they did? Maybe you have some other user in mind?

Gladiator's non-existent speed feats despite having on panel feats well above Hulk and every other slow character in comics combined, I fan wanked Iceman by his on panel feats because he operates consistently above Hulk and others tirelessly so your problem should be with comic writers not me hahahaha. Immortal Hulk couldn't harm nor kill Wonder Man and could barely take down a c-list group of characters along with a wounded Rulk so he lacks feats to say he is impressive in any way. The world breaking feat all those users fan wanked despite it killing Hulk in the process;they state world breaker can do it consistently despite never doing it again so yes they're extremely biased and i'd tie them in with Storm fanboys.

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@devilmaydare said:

@hellionvulcan: Umm yea, that was my point we are a group of biased individuals, luckily some of us can control those levels of bias, others are unlucky, sorry.

Hahahaha you and others don't control it in the slightest but that's the type of nonsense hypocrites say.

I do actually, i mean you can't even point out what is bias about anything i said about certain characters.

You tagged three users and called us bias with zero proof of such and now you want me to point out some as you can look into any Hulk thread vs Zeus/Thanos etc where people think Hulk would win, Stop with the nonsense as you and the Hulk scouts are the worst biased group on this site.

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@hellionvulcan: Umm yea, that was my point we are a group of biased individuals, luckily some of us can control those levels of bias, others are unlucky, sorry.

Hahahaha you and others don't control it in the slightest but that's the type of nonsense hypocrites say.

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Good as it'll be a while before he ruins more of Marvel's comics.

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@hellionvulcan: Gladiator probably will turn the tides in the issue itself but the fact he isn't swatting Heimdall away like a fly when Sentry's blitzes caused problems for Heimdall indirectly doesn't make Glads look good. It doesn't matter if this is like the Drax fight, and honestly Gladiator is taking this more seriously than he was with Drax, the inability to one shot Heimdall, who doesn't have high tier feats, is a disappointment for a so called powerhouse like Gladiator.

@atheistknowledge I would expect a FTL blitz to do more damage than just knock a mid tier Asgardian off his feet for a moment without doing any visible damage. Hardly a crowning achievement for Gladiator as it's useless in a battle. I do find that funny.

Gladiator stating "stand down ,Sentry. My fight is not with you" makes Gladiators attack seem like it was not meant to be a killing blow or maybe Glads underestimated his durability. I never cared how it made Gladiator look good or not as i just stated the feat in and of itself was amazingly fast.

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@hellionvulcan:Gladiator doesn't care because he is after Thor so all the other Gods are beneath his notice nor do they warrant any amount of his time. Heimdall is not a weak character as thats why he was knocked back but not knocked out also the rainbow bridge was damaged but you'll ignore that.

Exactly he doesn't care but he isn't capable of just swatting Heimdall away, the same way Hulk did before for instance where he slammed the rainbow bridge and sent Heimdall flying. Heimdall is not a Thor level character by any means, the fact that a galaxy long distance did not KO Heimdall who didn't even have the time to block it just tells me how weak Gladiators blitz really is. Yea he damaged the rainbow bridge, so?

Because he could not react to what was happening as he could see the attack but not dodge it aka blitz but Gladiator crossed galaxies and attacked in the time it took for Heimdall to blink once - A real blink of an eye takes 300 to 400 milliseconds. Since there's 1000 milliseconds in each second, a blink of an eye takes around 1/3 of a second. This is only comparable if Asgardians blink at the same rate as humans as it could be slower or faster but still this feat makes Gladiator faster than most.

Yea, such an amazing travel speed, yet still not powerful enough to cause more then small discomfort to Heimdall, that's kind hilarious to me.

@lvenger:Yea, the damage control has already started, even before the comic came out. Imagine how much they will scatter around once it does come out.

"he isn't capable of just swatting Heimdall away" This thing called writers and the rest is called plot as again wait and see how the fight turns out before thinking/stating anything too serious. I don't think Gladiator's optic blast has ever ko'd anyone (IIRC) only physically has Gladiator done so.

Damage control hahahahahahahahahaha where i haven't seen a single post besides yours whining.

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The speed of Gladiator right there is crazy as hell, I expect Gladiator to mop the floor with most Asgardians with ease.

Gladiator got staggered by Heimdall, his eye beams got blocked by a sword and he failed to one shot Heimdall and you think he's gonna mop the Asgardians in this story?

I see a Drax vs Gladiator moment show Heimdall getting in a shot and when the issue comes out it's the same result plus going by the next issue synopsis - Not all gods are equal, and to prove that they’re the mightiest, the Shi’ar gods infiltrated Asgard and kidnapped Thor and forced her to be a contestant in their Challenge of the Gods. Gladiator seems like a distraction for the rest of the Shi'ar to get by and kidnap Thor.

Heimdall's sword isn't just a regular sword either - Hofund: Heimdall carries an uru sword enchanted by Odin.With his sword Heimdall can command cosmic forces into his sword to strike down a half powered Thor from entering Asgard, he can also use his sword to wield blue flames from countless cosmic stars,and the ability to mystically disguise himself as a mortal human while he was on Earth.

The fact he failed to one shot someone who's barely superior to, if not only equal to The Wrecking Crew speaks for itself on how disappointing Gladiator I know the plot already, it doesn't change the problem that Gladiator failed to curbstomp a being so massively below him in an instant. Nice wiki description but Heimdall's sword doesn't have any impressive feats like other enchanted swords so Glads' star level heat vision being blocked by this sword is underwhelming tbf.

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@lvenger: Gladiator fans are always desperate, the fact that he didn't one shot Heimdall here, is pretty bad for someone like him. At least he got another useless travel speed.

Yep I can see the desperation. If he can't handle Heimdall how is he gonna take on She-Thor?

We have no idea if Gladiator will curbstomp him or not as being face palmed uppercutted doesn't mean anything as people thought Drax was going to beat Gladiator and Glads stomped him so again waiting for it to unfold is for the best. I was getting at Heimdall's sword is enchanted by Odin so it makes sense that Gladiator's optic blast couldn't break it but how do you expect Heimdall to have amazing feats since he never (rarely) leaves the rainbow bridge ?.

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@hellionvulcan said:
@atheistknowledge said:

@lvenger: Gladiator fans are always desperate, the fact that he didn't one shot Heimdall here, is pretty bad for someone like him. At least he got another useless travel speed.

Considering Gladiator wasn't trying to kill him says a lot as Gladiator broke parts of the rainbow bridge as well, Travel speed feat how so when Gladiator crossed galaxies and did an attack before Heimball could react.

Gladiator pretty much says "the rest of you can burn for all i care" pretty much indicates he was not holding back in any shape way or form and he didn't even knock out Heimdall, nobody says he had to outright kill him.

I don't remember Heimdall having any kind of reaction feats, but the fact that Gladiator did such a massive blitz without him reacting and still resulted in nothing, just further tells me how Gladiator is not as powerful as people portray him to be, but i will wait to see how the rest of the comic plays out, so far Heimdall seems to be the favorite.

Gladiator doesn't care because he is after Thor so all the other Gods are beneath his notice nor do they warrant any amount of his time. Heimdall is not a weak character as thats why he was knocked back but not knocked out also the rainbow bridge was damaged but you'll ignore that.

Also Heimdall saw Gladiator, which is indicated by him saying "No." before Gladiator struck him.

Because he could not react to what was happening as he could see the attack but not dodge it aka blitz but Gladiator crossed galaxies and attacked in the time it took for Heimdall to blink once - A real blink of an eye takes 300 to 400 milliseconds. Since there's 1000 milliseconds in each second, a blink of an eye takes around 1/3 of a second. This is only comparable if Asgardians blink at the same rate as humans as it could be slower or faster but still this feat makes Gladiator faster than most.

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