That is an interesting point. I wonder why some men haven't complained about male bodies being "stereotyped" or "marketed" (in the comics
Because we don't care.That part of comics isn't even important. "
Right, but why is it then important to women? Why do women care, while we don't, regarding our respective "bodily appearances"? "
Not being a woman..I wouldn't really know but I would assume it has something to do with the way project our interest in comics and maybe also something to do with the fact that many comic companies neglect their female characters are use them poorly.Maybe women feel like the comics industry only caters to men because that is the majority of their readers.Maybe they just feel left out and would like a female character they can relate to.Comic company rosters are stacked with all different types of MALE characters, it's easier for us to find role model or a character we can relate with.
That is an interesting point. I wonder why some men haven't complained about male bodies being "stereotyped" or "marketed" (in the comics
Because we don't care.That part of comics isn't even important. "
Right, but why is it then important to women? Why do women care, while we don't, regarding our respective "bodily appearances"? "
Not being a woman..I wouldn't really know but I would assume it has something to do with the way project our interest in comics and maybe also something to do with the fact that many comic companies neglect their female characters are use them poorly.Maybe women feel like the comics industry only caters to men because that is the majority of their readers.Maybe they just feel left out and would like a female character they can relate to.Comic company rosters are stacked with all different types of MALE characters, it's easier for us to find role model or a character we can relate with. "
I sort of agree with this. But I think even women can be incapable of writing diversified women characters. God, I hate gender. Even I am confined when it comes to writing females because of my own stereotypes. That's when I have to look at the character not as a woman, but as a person. Which leave potential.
“When we treat a person as male or female, we impose our own stereotypes of what that means. But if we treat a person as fully human, then we give him or her the freedom and responsibility to be completely the male or female who he or she is.”--Ray Anderson, On Being Human
"@The Psyentist: don't feel bad. I'd say a good 98% of the male characters are poorly written as well. "
I agree... It is all about the writer, not the comic character, sure there is going to be Sexism in comics, its in real life, it should be in comics, not at a extreme level, but we should not make belive that sexism does not happen... It does. I have a problem with what certain people pass judgment as sexist. I don't find Power Girls outfit sexist, I don't care what a woman is wearing, I want to get to know her. Now lets say a gaint robot was tearing apart a city, and Power Girl was window shopping instead of stopping the threat, that would be sexist, IMO.
I do agree that some of the depictions, particularly some of the costumes, are gratuitous and I don't care that much for them. There's a difference between showing some skin, and looking like strippers.
To be fair, Doom in Doom, and would had probably said that to anyone.
I also think that while some sexism is obvious, other times people just look for things that aren't there.
I would like to say that Marvel and DC are some of the greatest offender in this(One of the most spectacular was a Milo Manara X-men book with an only women cast...). But sexism t me isn't about gratuitous fanservice, but more in depreciation of a gender.
Somehow, I found that the 90'S wasn't so good to women : the "bad girl" era, in image comics, was sometimes truly dumb : pick an early Witchblade issue, and you will find that the scenario was somehow hollow, and the drawing very much of the success.
Truth to be told, as an teenage guy, I sometimes feeled bad when I saw male superheroes and their impossible physical perfection. But I guess they're eye candy to female readership, so I really learned to not care about it.
Now, DC and Marvel writing are not that good. Like it's been written earlier, even the male superheroes are badly depicted. But that's true that girl get an especially bad writing and derailement character.
@vance_astro: This image is iconic in the sexist debate, but they're wrong. Batman was being the responsible role model and well to do citizen. Batman is actually soft, considering the number of times he could have killed Joker, or at least broken his legs or something.... Only to let the sicko hurt so many more people. But hey, a "better man" needs to act like a better man, a spanking a naive , irresponsible, immature girl/woman is giving her a walk in the park. What if the Hunter/gatherer/family protector man just took all the inventions and safeties and just threw that ungrateful woman punk into the wild to fend for herself? I bet she'd behave then. Notice how the word "punk" is rarely applied to women, when many deserve it. See? Now THAT is sexist.
@vance_astro: This image is iconic in the sexist debate, but they're wrong. Batman was being the responsible role model and well to do citizen. Batman is actually soft, considering the number of times he could have killed Joker, or at least broken his legs or something.... Only to let the sicko hurt so many more people. But hey, a "better man" needs to act like a better man, a spanking a naive , irresponsible, immature girl/woman is giving her a walk in the park. What if the Hunter/gatherer/family protector man just took all the inventions and safeties and just threw that ungrateful woman punk into the wild to fend for herself? I bet she'd behave then. Notice how the word "punk" is rarely applied to women, when many deserve it. See? Now THAT is sexist.
Batman has never been a responsible role model. As long as there is a Robin, a Batgirl & a Nightwing...he screwed up!
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