Haaydrian

:O

@jashro44 said:

I never said they can't I said they wont. The op also mentions they are in character.

We take cis into account in battle forums. If a character rarely uses an ability in combat then we take that into account.

Depends on the rarity. Daken doesn't use his Pheromones every fight, but in the battle forum he still has access to them in every fight, so much so that people go as far as to put "No Pheromones". For someone like Thor, on the other hand, we don't say he can use TK or whatever it is they claim he can do, because he doesn't use it consistently. That's the key word here. GA and Hawkeye using these arrows in a consistent manner, so they can be used in a battle forum.

They fight within the limits of there personality. All the op did was label gear he didn't say the archers have to use all those arrows. You think its in character show me examples of hawkeye and green arrow starting a fight with sonic arrows or provide a issue reference.

Show me an issue where Daken uses Pheromones to make a group of enemies null. Same thing. It is in personality for Daken to use his Pheromones in a fight, just like it is in personality for Hawkeye/GA to use their arrows. This "using it first in battle" is bull. If you want to prove that it is, then you provide a scan/issue of reference where they claim they always hold back in the beginning of the fight. Another anaology. Superman wins against Hulk, the most basic reason why is because Superman can't be tagged by the Hulk, his speed is too great. (Or course, he's also stronger, but lets not get into that). But how many times has he been tagged by people with low speed? Immense. But he still uses speed enough times in a consistent manner that people attribute the speed to being in character. (And don't confuse speed with speed-blitzing, whether innocently or not)

Actually it is. They are going to use the arrows they normally use.

Yes, but they don't normally have an infinite supply of arrows. Their personality is still the same, however the manner that they're going to act because of this vital factor in the OP is going to change how the battle plays out, even if the characterization of the characters (pardon the redundancy) remains the same.

There not going to fight any differently then normal.

That's like giving someone a Kryptonite gun against Superman and then claiming that they aren't going to use it because they don't use it normally or in a consistent manner. The OP is changing in an equipment, so the character's actions are going to take accordingly. This is an example illustrating what I was saying above.

Again show me either combatant starting the fight with sonic arrows.

I don't have to because the OP changes the context of the battle.

@jashro44 said:

@Haaydrian said:

@jashro44 said:

Neither really use sonic arrows much in character from what I have seen so I doubt they will spam them. Not to mention distance isn't specified so they don't have much range here. Deadpool and cap are going to be on them really quickly.

No, because their supply of each arrow is limited, here they have as many arrows as they want magically supplied to them so they don't have to worry about managing arrows. As for the use of sonic arrows, it is in character for them to use it. Sure it is not in-character for them to use it in every encounter, but there is no reason why they shouldn't be using them in this battle.

As for the range, there are a bunch of trees which means they'll both have to intercept them in their path to the archers. This would give the latter group enough time to put them down with a mixture of smoke arrows, sonic arrows and quantum arrows.

No there not going to use sonic arrows here because they both rarely use them. List some examples of them using it in character. It doesn't matter how many they have, they will definitely not be starting the match off with sonic arrows. And it really doesn't take long to run around some trees, especially for 2 enhanced humans like cap and deadpool.

...Dude. I can use that line for anything.

Oh, they're going to be using ______ arrow? Oh too bad, they can't use them, even though the OP explicitly gave them a roster of limitless arrows. So no, even though OP said that GA can use his nuclear arrow, he can't.

You've managed to make it so that this isn't a debate about Green Arrow/Hawkeye with any of the arrows, but they can only use the two three arrows they can most commonly used.

This isn't like a speedblitz situation where a character can't speedblitz due to the fact that he doesn't normally. If Green Arrow had a nuclear arrow (which the list says he does) he still won't use it because its not in character for him to kill himself.

@CapFanboy said:

@Haaydrian said:

@CapFanboy: I'm a cheapskate.

I know...I only got like 100 for carrying your baby

Mostly because you didn't carry my baby and you claimed that he would be born in a black and blue-striped spandex uniform, with Escrima sticks and all.

@CapFanboy: I'm a cheapskate.

@CapFanboy said:

@Haaydrian said:

I'm not surprised about the business, merely how as a man you're able to compete in it.

Fine. I admit. It's a scam. Here's your money back.

I'm going to waste it on beer, thanks.

@jashro44 said:

Neither really use sonic arrows much in character from what I have seen so I doubt they will spam them. Not to mention distance isn't specified so they don't have much range here. Deadpool and cap are going to be on them really quickly.

No, because their supply of each arrow is limited, here they have as many arrows as they want magically supplied to them so they don't have to worry about managing arrows. As for the use of sonic arrows, it is in character for them to use it. Sure it is not in-character for them to use it in every encounter, but there is no reason why they shouldn't be using them in this battle.

As for the range, there are a bunch of trees which means they'll both have to intercept them in their path to the archers. This would give the latter group enough time to put them down with a mixture of smoke arrows, sonic arrows and quantum arrows.

@CapFanboy said:

@Haaydrian said:

@CapFanboy said:

@Haaydrian said:

@CapFanboy: I'm pretty sure he names himself after it, thus Dick. That's how confident he is.

I swear to god, if I had a hero he would be it.

You're in the business of giving birth to heroes? O.o

Yes, It's a competitive business, since I'm not free for like 9 months...

I'm not surprised about the business, merely how as a man you're able to compete in it.

@Ferdelance: Without substantial proof, there's nothing to warrant that.

@jashro44 said:

@tg1982 said:

With morals on, I don't see Hawkeye or Green Arrow using a lot of the arrows mentioned at least not effectively, meanwhile i don't see Deadpool really being that impressive without his healing factor. I honestly think this could go either way, with a possible slight edge to team two (Cap and DP).

This all though I disagree about deadpool being unimpressive without his healing factor.

I don't see how that's the case? Why would either one of them not use the arrows that they already use, just with more regularity as they don't have to save them?

Spam sonic arrows. Morals has nothing to do with it.