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@coolcat4:

You just fail to understand.

I'll summarize.

You are assuming how the mechanism works without proof. I gave an alternative viable scenario of how the mechanism could work that drastically changes the answer.

In order for the machine to affect rotation it has to apply a force somewhere (or some places) to create the Torque. But you are assuming where that force is located applied without proof. The machine is using energy, not a solid physical material connection (like a chain), to do this.

Therefore, You falsely assume that turning the wheel = turning the Earth near its axis. You can turn the Earth from ANYWHERE. All you need is a lever arm(s) connected to Earth and pretend the Earth won't break apart.

You cannot turn anything by applying a force ON its axis. You have to apply a force A DISTANCE from its axis.

I'll try to help you though give a more logical solution.

It is nonsense to assume you can affect rotation by applying a force at a single location. That's like trying to lift a building without it collapsing under its own weight.

The only thing that needs to rotate is the solid crust of the Earth. Whether this liquid inside rotates is immaterial to the story of the comic.

Now for the rest I'll let you decide if you want me to post the rest. Don't want to waste my time if you are not willing to read through it.

@coolcat4:

Torque is also equal to the espression I gave earlier (with Force). You need that expression to calculate the force.

You are simply making stuff up at this point.

You can't prove

1. Earth acted as 1 unit and therefore applying a force at ONE spot inside makes the whole unit rotates (which goes against logic because Earth isn't ONE unit and is a lot of moving parts).

Or

2. Where the force is being directly applied. I can easily say the force is being applied to the surface of the Earth. You are basically saying stuff that is not supported by the comic. We have no freaking idea how that machine is directly applying force to the Earth to get it to rotate. It could be applying force in many different areas (we calculate moments and add them up). This is the most logical and scientific explanation.

By the way. I have been tutoring engineering students for over 20 years.

@coolcat4: I think you need to take a basic class in physics.

Torque = Force x lever arm length x sine of angle between force and lever arm.

You are assuming machine is applying force at the axis (which is impossible because that would result in 0 Torque) without proof. You can apply force ANYWHERE to rotate anything (assuming the object remains intact

@coolcat4: You used 6 meters in the calculation for the length of the lever arm.

The machine is directly applying a force to Earth (through magical means) yes but we don't know where it is applying the force. Yes the location of the force is important because it determines the length of the lever arm in your calculation.

Just so you know, the length of the lever arm is the distance the force is applied from the axis of rotation.

Your assumption of calculating the torque at the very center of Earth in a small area is baseless and pure speculation.

Most likely the machine is applying force over MANY areas (we then calculate individual moments) since the whole Earth rotates and not a portion.

I haven't read all of the calculations yet. But so far the assumption of the length of the lever arm is wrong.

The length of the lever arm of the machine doesn't necessarily equal the length of the lever arm that is rotating the Earth.

The machine could be creating a magical level arm the size of the radius of Earth (plus 6 more meters) in order to rotate the Earth, or any unknown size. We have no idea exactly how the machine is rotating the Earth.

I would say Superman stops at around 10-15k (not counting the tectonic plate feat). I calculated Nam ek throwing the train to be around 20,000 tons (I can post it if you like). I don't believe Nam is twice as strong as Superman (they are close as peers from their exchanges with Superman being slightly weaker).

As far as Thor. The ring feat is unquantifiable. This is because we don't know how much extra force was needed to break the ice as the rings themselves were exerting a force in addition to Thor. In other words, Thor could have need 100 extra tons to break the ice for all we know.

@capital-g:

Either can solo due to the difference in speed. Using logic, either kryptonian has the ability to view Thanos as a near statue. It will be extremely difficult for Thanos to land a blow. Even if he manages to do the improbable then either is durable enough to continue the fight without much damage. I don't assume characters fight dumb and nerfed for the sake of the plot. I assume that the characters are of at least REAL average intelligence and has good knowledge of their powers and abilities when fighting.

Thor would have to fight smart and keep his distance and use lightning consistently. Once Thanos throws the sword, Thor should knock it out of the air and keep it away from Thanos. If Thor decides to engage Thanos up close (after Thanos loses his sword) then Thor can do what he did to Hela with the mother of all lightning blasts from the sky on Thanos.

If Thor doesn't employ these methods then he will lose.

@captainmarvel11:

Superman throws one punch at a time. Fine

He still statues them