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Do you have a reliable source that the hulk is in the third Thor movie? If so, link?

Thanos separates banner and the hulk creating an unstoppable monster to bring on a new ragnarok for asgard as a distraction to steal their infinity stone. There's my plot if so

Cant be bothered with a link but its official - both Ruffalo, Hemsworth and others have confirmed it.

Not really sure there will be a fight and kind of hope there isnt. Ruffalo/Hemsworth were just assuming there would be/speculating by their own admission, no doubt based on the idea that Hulk fights a teammate in every film so far and pretty much all the heroes are fighting anyway.

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It was written by this guy, Chris Terrio — this is like his first movie after Argo. He’s just this brilliant writer of characters. So this movie is, you know, it’s not like a kind of cartoonish superhero movie. It’s this very serious and well acted, well written, well directed movie. It’s really phenomenal.

I have to say, this comment does annoy me - not so much because it could be construed as insulting to Marvel films or other comic book films in general but more because its the most generic kind of promotional thing that people in comic book films have been saying since Burton's Batman. There are films like Kick-Ass or Green Lantern which wont try to make any kind of claims of being "proper movies" but seriously, in the run up to pretty much every other comic book film actors/producers/directors have marvelled about "how deep" this movie is - with proper dialogue and everything!!!

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I think the powerlevels seem fine (from what we've seen). Superman can be hurt by the gunfire from the Batship, hes not so fast that Batman cant evade his heat vision. I dont see anything that screams that he is ultra powerful compared to MCU Hulk or Thor.

And from the little we saw of Doomsday he seems fine also for a guy who is going to be the villain who fights Supes/Bats/WW.

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I dont really care too much about comic book Lex. But i do care if movie Lex works. And I'm very much not sure about that at this stage.

As for The Joker - The Joker in TDK was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more restrained and menacing, even from the firs trailer, than Zuckerberg Lex.

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I really don't get why people are saying this is going to be "another Snyder mediocre movie". Every Marvel movie, except for CA2, GOTG and maybe IM1 are mediocre or bad, most of them are fun of course, but I don't see people complaining about that with Marvel movies. And this is a super-hero movie, not fucking Kubrick. And I'm not saying super-hero movies can't be good, god knows how much I love TDK, but I don't think people should expect anything more than fun from this movies.I dislike a few thing about this movie, but I'm just gonna wait to see how this stupid Lex is developed and how this rushed Doomsday will work.

And Avengers 2 spoiled the WHOLE MOVIE, literally every action scene, in trailers and teasers. Start getting used to it people, next CW trailer we get Caps and Iron Man fighting side by side against Thanos.

I really don't get why people are saying this is going to be "another Snyder mediocre movie".

Every Marvel movie, except for CA2, GOTG and maybe IM1 are mediocre or bad, most of them are fun of course, but I don't see people complaining about that with Marvel movies.

Well firstly most people dont feel that way. I think Marvel is hit or miss but i think a fair assesment of the general consensus is that IM1/CA2/GOTG/Avengers were very good, Thor/Ant-Man/Captain America were good, IM2/Thor 2/Avengers 2 were dissapointments and Hulk/IM3 were kind of OK. So i just cant agree with that proposition.

And this is a super-hero movie, not fucking Kubrick. And I'm not saying super-hero movies can't be good, god knows how much I love TDK, but I don't think people should expect anything more than fun from this movies.

Nobody wsa expecting (or looking) for Kubrick. (Can you imagine the reactions if this turned out to be some arthouse film?) People do want it to be good though. Good in an IM1/CA2/Batman Begins/TDK/GOTG way.

I dislike a few thing about this movie, but I'm just gonna wait to see how this stupid Lex is developed and how this rushed Doomsday will work.

And Avengers 2 spoiled the WHOLE MOVIE, literally every action scene, in trailers and teasers.

No it didnt. Even if you watched it frame by frame etc. And they never gave away something that totally invalidated the premise of the film. This would be like IM3 revealing that Ben Kingsley wasnt the Mandarin in the trailer.

Start getting used to it people, next CW trailer we get Caps and Iron Man fighting side by side against Thanos.

You think Thanos is going to show up in Civil War and fight Cap/IM? No.

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Not sure how this ruins the plot. We all knew that they would eventually join forces to fight something Lex created with his Zod body, and that WW would be involved somehow. The only real reveal is that it was Doomsday.

I hate this logic. Sure everyone hanging around the "Batman vs Superman" forum knew Doomsday would be in the movie. But my brother wouldn;'t have for example. 90% of the cinema audience (at least) wouldn't have known that Batman & Superman team up to fight some monster. But now everyone who watches this trailer knows that the movie called "Batman vs Superman" ends with Batman & Superman & Wonder Woman teaming up. Good job WB.

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About the same all up. It sold me on Affleck's Batman/Wayne. The opening exchange between him and Clark is gold. Then Lex Zuckerberg shows up and things dont look as great.

And just an absolutely unforgivable mistake to show for all the world that a movie called "Batman vs Superman" ends with Batman teaming up with Superman. It doesnt matter if you could probably guess that was going to happen - the last 15 seconds completely dissipates any suspense built up in the first 2 minutes, all so they could promote the Justice League idea to the masses.

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I didn't mind how maestro was potrayed. Sure, he blocked hits but he had a reason to, he's tough but guillotines sword cut into caps shield, if it connected it'd take his head off.

and why people are acting like maesteo working for the collector is a bad thing is beyond me. The whole contest is for ISO-8, and a small shard was supposed to be enough for the collector to 'rival the gods'. I think he's going to win, kill the collectors with that bomb and take the ISO-8 for himself.

Its not really the Hulk's thing to act as someones henchman out of fear. Remember when the Red Skull & Mentallo were trying to mind control him - they made him think he would die if he didnt acquiesce. He would rather die and so they failed. I can accept some flexibility but basically i think an older, more evil, more arrogant Hulk would be more reluctant to bend the knee.

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Galactus has had some humiliating moments but in the past few years he kind of established himself as the Top Dog. He beat Odin (more or less), he seemed more than a single Celestial from Hickman's FF run (people had argued he was much, much less powerful than Celestials).

I would definitely take Necro-Thor over RKT. RKT was basically Odin level - Odin had the wisdom of the well, the Rune Knowledge & the Odinpower just like RKT (lot of people assume RKT was twice as powerful or something). Only difference was Thor had lived as a mortal and thus could act in ways that Those Who Sit Above couldn't predict. He didn't outpower them - he was outside the scope of their control.

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Tough to say. If Thor has Mjolnir he could probably deflect the giant repulsor handbeams. Hulkbuster would be stronger, has some cool tricks up its sleeve. If it jackhammers Thors head - its probably lights out. And of course Thor's lightning is probably a non-factor at best.

However Thor has the large advantage that he is intelligent and mobile enought to destroy the floating spare parts station. If he does this then he should eventually break the suit down. Thor probably hits harder with Mjolnir but i do feel hes vulnerable in a melee situation.