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@LordOfAllHumans: You know i've read most of the twilight books and i'm pretty i remember them saying vampires need time to rebuild themselves after been torn apart. In fact in Jacob's dad's story the two werewolf brothers made that mistake the first time they encountered a vampire. They killed and tore it apart but it returned after several days and attacked them back, apparently it rebuilt itself. This process takes time, it doesn't happen in minutes or hours but the book implies days. The biggest problem the avengers have (assuming no bloodlust) is successfully pinning down the vampires since they have no obvious weakness. Incapacitation only requires the combatant to be out for over 30 minutes so regenerating will never help them. Without bloodlust, despite the vampires speed and sheer determination you have to factor in several elements

1.) Speed is on the avengers side. Noh-varr has clocked the entire young avengers team is less than 3 seconds and quicksilver can go 0 to sonic boom in just as little time. The vampires could be seriously torn apart in less time than they can react to.

2.) Tactics is on the avengers side, they have tons and TONS of experience dealing with metahumans and team work between them. People like Tony Stark and Hank Pym are the big brain of the Marvel Universe and they're second to few in terms of prep time. Given preparation and information on who they are fighting they will be more than capable (in their own right in regard to their preparations skills) to think up a plan to clock the team efficiently in their limited time. Given we've never seen Aro or the others as great prep masters and they're no true good feats of tactics in twilight. I mean in the final battle it was a mainly role out the big guns and fight kind of ordeal.

3.) Durability and strength hangs in the avengers. You may factor in the various supernatural abilities the vampires have but surely you realize that people like Iron Man, hercules, Invisable Woman(should she put her sheilds up in time which, given prep, she obviously will) and wolverine are in no way going to be put down. As explained in twilight most of their abilities stem from the mind and are mental in nature, not supernatural or magical. This is why Bella can protect herself from the skills of other vampires. Because she has a mind shield. Only a few vampires have skills that affect the physical world directly ( i believe one bloke can manipulate the elements but he isn't even in the volturi). Marvel guns are used to mind rape and telepathy. Iron Man has mind shield that would give Xavier a nose bleed. Most members of the avengers are given telepathy blocks in their brains and sue's shields blocks out all that funky stuff. Hercules and the rest have a great deal of will power and grit and usually are able to overpower mental attacks. Wonder Man doesn't even have a mind in his iconic form, they can't affect something that has no distinct mind (or at least we've never been able to see that) Quicksilver moves too fast to be even affected. Given these there is no possible way for the volturi to take down any of the avengers permanantely. Why?

Even if Jane or Alex use their powers to dull out the Avenger, it can only be used one at a time, so while their focus is on a single avenger, another has time to clock them or put a shield around them to protect them(sue). Given their two prep masters with them i'm sure they'll discover a way around those two should they ever be a problem

4) Attack falls too largely in favour of the avengers. Quicksilver could solo this even for all their abilities and speed. Iron Man has capabilities to wipe them with repulsors and given he has enhanced reflexes due to the extremis he could execute this very quickly. Sue could simply explode them from where she is at the start of the battle and hercules against any one of them would prove fatal. Noh-varr can hold his own against ALL of them due to his skill and speed which could discredit even spider man and Wolverine of course has mental blocks from xavier and has enough speed, skill and his healing factor that would ensure he could never be put down for long.

5.) The twilight crew have nothing to go for. sure they may be formidable, but this is the marvel mid-tier city destroying class of metahumans. These is no way the Avengers can ever lose. Given Tony Stark, Wonder Man, Wolverine, and possible sue could never be taken out. Hercules could be incapacitated with Jane or Alec's power given he is unable to overcome and no one will ever touch quicksilver. Noh-varr has some telepathic resistance and in white-running mode and mental attacks are redirected since his mind is 100% focused on his tasks at hand (to kill all the vampires).

Also to clear a misconception: Alice's power isn't a spider sense or from doctor manhattan style power. If she choose she can watch the future of something but this doesn't mean she automatically knows what happens at every second of the time. She can predict movement to an extent but only for the person she is watching for and given she herself has enough time to react to it. So she might be watching sue's future and see that she will open a bubble inside her skull but she couldn't prevent it. Her powers are also very subjective and she only sees glimpses which she must interpret herself. Its not full blown precognition like midnighter or something. Its like glimpses into the future of a particular target and they could change depending on the targets mental state and aren't always 100% clear. The more experienced or closer she is to someone, the easier it is to predict their future and timeline. This is hardly useful given her limited prep time and background of the avengers.

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What? Come on Team 1 obviously have this! Wolverine, Spider Man and Iron Fist could tag team this match

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Wow this is really good. Well done mate and congrats on the hard work! Blue beetle definitely deserves some respect!

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a lot of good cosplay here. Catwoman, psylocke, red skull and red sonja look incredible. But the above picture really won my as the best yet!

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@ChaosBlazer said:

Wolverine was temporarily KO'd by a bullet fired into his head at almost point blank range. Movie Lizard was strong enough to do a similar thing. Movie Lizard should win.

he did better, his entire body as frozen with liquid nitrogen ( the coldest substance in earth) well under -150 degrees celsuis and his limps and body parts and were been shot apart and fallen off. He recovered in seconds. In fact he was regenerating new limps and body parts so quickly it was barely impeding him. Later he it was only when he dosed with dozens of tanks before he seemed to be struggling. he was tanking machine gun fire from dozens of swat officers for several seconds before been subdued and then while riddled with bullets for several more seconds AT POINT BLANK RANGE recovered fully in less than 5 seconds. He was shrugging off shot gun bullets at point blank range like they were nothing. Had his tail chopped off and grew a new one in seconds. His regeneration is top tier and unlike any comic film character i've seen. even surpassing Ang Lee's Hulk. He's strong enough to flip cars and SUVs with a wave of a a hand, flipped an armored swat vehicle (about 10 tons) with some difficulty. Is agile and fast enough to keep up with spider man and give him trouble. Keep in mind spider man dodged 5 bullets point blank with ease in the beginning of the film. Has claws sharp enough to easily slice through steel.

Lizard wins pretty easily.

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@Kinasin_ said:

She'll lose. Batman always outclassed her, or matched her.

Really? Some scans of that please...

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@hermankeson:

He wrote this:

@Hellos said:

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"Galactus only knowns eternity because when they were poor Galactus existed before them. "

Is anyone reading this and wondering WTF is defender talking about?
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@CitizenBane said:

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Does his computer work in the same way as Midnighter's because Engineer already made him immune to mind intrusion and the sort.

She did not. She made his battle computer immune to technological tampering.

Oh my mistake. Battalion was able to shut off his combat machine using his his telepathy.

He did not. He stopped Midnighter's brain from receiving signals from the battle computer. He could not affect the computer itself.

So why didn't he just fry midnighter's mind then?

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@difficlus said:

Does his computer work in the same way as Midnighter's because Engineer already made him immune to mind intrusion and the sort.

She did not. She made his battle computer immune to technological tampering.

Oh my mistake. Battalion was able to shut off his combat machine using his his telepathy.

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