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@nathaniel_christopher: Yeah, i was just putting stories i would put in for the future of the bat-family franchise.

What Marvel is doing with Avengers is something they cant do with Captain America or Hulk as much because they dont have as much when it comes to legacy and family. Yeah they do movies with Bucky and Falcon but beyond that they dont have much and it would be hard for either of those characters to carry a movie. The bat-family on the other hand has a handful of characters that can each carry a movie Nightwing could obviously carry a movie. Tim could carry a movie if the right story was done (His search for Bruce after Batman: RIP) I would love to see a real take on Battle for the Cowl. Dick Could have a film with his Titans fighting Deathstroke.

Then of coarse you have the Super-family. Superman obviously gets some love but they could do the introduction to Supergirl (i would use the one where she is fought over by Superman, batman, Wonder Woman and ultimately Darkseid. They could also do a clone arc they results in Bizzaro and Superboy. You could have Lex attacking the Superman situation from multiple angles resulting in Metallo, Reactron, and Cyborg Superman. I would spin Superboy into a new Teen Titans movie with Tim Drake, Cassandra Cain, Blue Beetle, Miss Martian, and Bunker. That could be Young Justice that shows the old Teen Titans mentoring the new Teen Titans. I would eventually have all the titans take on Trigon or Deathstroke with the Titans East.

I would do a separate movie with the introduction of Powergirl and Huntress and a Flash movie "Flash of Two Earths" (being a lead into Crisis on Infinite earths Parts 1 & 2).

To Start fresh after Crisis on Infinite Earths i would then Focus on Green Lantern and having the introduction of Mongul, leading to Green Lantern: Zero Hour. Just trickle down the Crisis' from there every 5 to 10 years sprinkled between smaller stories for the various families of DC. I could lay this out and plan all day long. There is so much story there.

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Red hood would have everyone

Son of batman would focus on Bruce and intro to Damian

Batman & Robin could have everyone cameo and focus on Dick & Damian relationship. You could have a small side Story or hints of Tim tracking down the truth behind Bruce's disappearance.

Return of Bruce Wayne I would actually show Tim's adventures finding the truth with small scenes of Bruce fighting crime through the ages

Court of Owls could have everyone and maybe introduce Batwoman

Death of the family bring back the Joker

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I'm so excited about this. He is my 2nd favorite character close behind Superman. I hope they do him justice but I have so many hopes for this.

DCEU needs to focus less on making justice League and focus more on a shared universe within the families. They could then make a large movie every 8 to 10 years. Do the batman family in this order:

Red hood

Son of batman

--- Justice League (death of batman)

Batman & Robin (Dick & Damian)

The Return of Bruce Wayne

Court of Owls

Death of The Family

They have decades of good stories to tell before they would need to reboot or restructure

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Doomsdays whole premise was he evolves from damage. HE isnt supposed to have weaknesses. I believe the only reason why kryptonite works on him (originally at least) is because no matter how many times he dies he is still based off of Kryptonian DNA so that the one weakness he would always have but even that should be taken away as he is supposed to evolve past the weaknesses. I dont like how Doomsday was created in the movies or the fact they took one of his hands and turned it into a spear. I would like to see that limb get cut off again and his hand regrow.

Doomsday should be a force of nature roaming the universe like his origin, running into Darkseid, lanterns, Mongul, and Lobo alike trying to destroy everything in sight. The only options should be try to restrain him or battle field removal.

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Or characters from treasure Planet

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What Disney easter eggs would you like to see in a Marvel movie?

Personally I would like to see Stitch & Captain Gantu in a background role in a scene. I think that would be cool

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@watcher_killer4 said:

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That's reasonable but this is fiction... Nothing has to make sense here... I can also make make an argument that Goku actually moved at speeds faster than the flash ever did because the flash and Superman have both been frozen in time... Goku's speed alone allowed him to overcome a time stopping.

True

and again they say he stopped time so as far as canon goes he did but that is also being perceived by 2 beings who cant move or see as fast so to them he is stopping time. The real clincher is the fact that during the anime it actually shows everything freeze.

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@degraaf:

Pandora at the beginning of the New52 said that someone had split the timeline in order to make them weaker versions. And that she'd was gonna to unite them. To face whoever had done it.

And now we're told that even then Manhattan also messed up with her rearranging.

i thought right before she died she said she was working for Manhatten

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Why is everyone talking about Dr Manhattan? Does anyone here really believes that DC would be so blunt about something that's supposed to be this big deal? If anything DC is misleading people into believing one thing and then you'll get another.

DC with those two little cameos. The Comedian pin, and Mars, might be actually be pointing to when in time this mess started. But not who THEY are.

@harun_kurnaz said:

So new52 wasn't a reboot just a 10 years back at the time (thanks to Manhattan) , because of this there can't be two Superman like there can't be two Wally West. Johns solve the first problem simply saying they are just cousins. And looks like Mr. Oz will solve the second one. They are not what they believe. My theory is (because of Dc already throw away N52 Supes) somehow Dr. Manhattan create a new Superman (N52 one) and send away the pre52 Superman. This could explain the dark (!) character of New52 and his method of solving problems and they could even use him to clean all the mess of New52 universe by the fact that there is no coming back for him

No. Not quite. When Wally says "Ten years were stolen from us" he's referring to how time went a different path for ten years in Wally's prespective in comparison to the timeline he left behind. Or better yet, the timeline he was forced to leave behind. But in a way he also says that even if Barry hadn't caused the Flashpoint, THEY would've caused it anyway. Whoever THEY are.

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Yeah the Superman arc so far is very messy but not necessarily in a bad way since its so early. I know Superman and Lois came from Convergence (even though we never saw them taken during their timeline) but to say that Superman and N52 Superman actually were the same people just from different points in time then you kill the younger one seems convoluted. Tell me if im wrong on this but as of the information given in Rebirth N52 characters are the same people from Before Flashpoint right?

These are all supposed to be the same character just from different points in time correct?

The difference is that Pre-N52 is just before time got messed with, N52 is after time got messed with and Rebirth Supes is actually the Pre-N52 that some how got contained, pulled out of existence and then pushed back into existence after the Flashpoint and N52 events occurred. So is one of the Supes (N52 or Rebirth) a time remnant of the other? (See The Flash TV series for the reference) and if so then wouldnt the N52 Superman be Rebirth's superman from his past somehow?

Someone please help me out here

No. The New52 characters are the New52 characters. They are the result of the New52 timeline.

Pre-Flashpoint characters are from another timeline.

And according to Wally. Time was already being messed up before Flashpoint, so there's no telling when this mess started.

as to your response to @harun_kurnaz and mine. I think that the timeline is more a straight line that now has a bunch of holes in it rather than 2 lines merged as one