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#1 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio
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Or characters from treasure Planet

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What Disney easter eggs would you like to see in a Marvel movie?

Personally I would like to see Stitch & Captain Gantu in a background role in a scene. I think that would be cool

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#3 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher_killer4 said:

@degraaf:

That's reasonable but this is fiction... Nothing has to make sense here... I can also make make an argument that Goku actually moved at speeds faster than the flash ever did because the flash and Superman have both been frozen in time... Goku's speed alone allowed him to overcome a time stopping.

True

and again they say he stopped time so as far as canon goes he did but that is also being perceived by 2 beings who cant move or see as fast so to them he is stopping time. The real clincher is the fact that during the anime it actually shows everything freeze.

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#4 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

@degraaf:

Pandora at the beginning of the New52 said that someone had split the timeline in order to make them weaker versions. And that she'd was gonna to unite them. To face whoever had done it.

And now we're told that even then Manhattan also messed up with her rearranging.

i thought right before she died she said she was working for Manhatten

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#5 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is everyone talking about Dr Manhattan? Does anyone here really believes that DC would be so blunt about something that's supposed to be this big deal? If anything DC is misleading people into believing one thing and then you'll get another.

DC with those two little cameos. The Comedian pin, and Mars, might be actually be pointing to when in time this mess started. But not who THEY are.

@harun_kurnaz said:

So new52 wasn't a reboot just a 10 years back at the time (thanks to Manhattan) , because of this there can't be two Superman like there can't be two Wally West. Johns solve the first problem simply saying they are just cousins. And looks like Mr. Oz will solve the second one. They are not what they believe. My theory is (because of Dc already throw away N52 Supes) somehow Dr. Manhattan create a new Superman (N52 one) and send away the pre52 Superman. This could explain the dark (!) character of New52 and his method of solving problems and they could even use him to clean all the mess of New52 universe by the fact that there is no coming back for him

No. Not quite. When Wally says "Ten years were stolen from us" he's referring to how time went a different path for ten years in Wally's prespective in comparison to the timeline he left behind. Or better yet, the timeline he was forced to leave behind. But in a way he also says that even if Barry hadn't caused the Flashpoint, THEY would've caused it anyway. Whoever THEY are.

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Yeah the Superman arc so far is very messy but not necessarily in a bad way since its so early. I know Superman and Lois came from Convergence (even though we never saw them taken during their timeline) but to say that Superman and N52 Superman actually were the same people just from different points in time then you kill the younger one seems convoluted. Tell me if im wrong on this but as of the information given in Rebirth N52 characters are the same people from Before Flashpoint right?

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These are all supposed to be the same character just from different points in time correct?

The difference is that Pre-N52 is just before time got messed with, N52 is after time got messed with and Rebirth Supes is actually the Pre-N52 that some how got contained, pulled out of existence and then pushed back into existence after the Flashpoint and N52 events occurred. So is one of the Supes (N52 or Rebirth) a time remnant of the other? (See The Flash TV series for the reference) and if so then wouldnt the N52 Superman be Rebirth's superman from his past somehow?

Someone please help me out here

No. The New52 characters are the New52 characters. They are the result of the New52 timeline.

Pre-Flashpoint characters are from another timeline.

And according to Wally. Time was already being messed up before Flashpoint, so there's no telling when this mess started.

as to your response to @harun_kurnaz and mine. I think that the timeline is more a straight line that now has a bunch of holes in it rather than 2 lines merged as one

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#6 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

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A honest question for people who want Kon-El back, would you be against the idea of him in a mentor role? Because in this moment I think that it's his best chance.

as long as he isnt limited to that role. If he was in that role and on a young justice team or one of the titan teams than im ok with that. He should be in a mentor role for coming of age not for powers though since the powers should have different origins (from birth and genes compared to TTK)

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#7 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

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@watcher_killer4 said:

Ok so Goku's speed basically surpassed the concept of speed in the latest episode.

Hit During time skip... not after the technique wore off... during... was unable to keep up with Goku.

It didnt surpass the concept of speed if anything it surpassed the concept of time. Goku was so powerful and so fast that while Hit stopped time Goku moved so quick that his actions and reactions were still on par with Hit. So if anything during this scene we found out that Hits ability does not stop time but slows it down to a very slow crawl for a % of a second but since Goku is so fast that Hit couldnt even see him that when he slowed time down Goku was still moving at what seemed like normal sped for Hit and himself

Dude thats's fanfic, the technique was already explained to stop time.

I understand thats what was said so that is what is canon but im just trying to make sense of Goku being able to move when time is stopped. You could say im grasping at straws but im just trying to understand how this would work.

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#8 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

Even in his most recent episode he had the new haircut similar to when he was training rather than the mop top and nerdy. I wish they would just do a whole episode on him rather than tiny pieces here and there. Is he training? is he not training? Why even mess with a job when he is married into one of the richest families in the DBS world. I understand if he wants to provide for his family but at this point he is wasting his time bc he has more then enough money. He didnt take the offer bc he wanted to be home with his family more but he could quit his job and stay at home with his family all the time and train as well. When Videl was brought in she had a chip on her shoulder and set out to train and get stronger now she is just a person in the background with almost no lines and nothing like her original character. Videl knows the truth about the Cell saga and that Gohan has been/can be the most powerful as well as that there are other worldly threats out there threatening their earth she is the type that would rather him train if that means he saves their family and their planet.

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#9 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok so Goku's speed basically surpassed the concept of speed in the latest episode.

Hit During time skip... not after the technique wore off... during... was unable to keep up with Goku.

It didnt surpass the concept of speed if anything it surpassed the concept of time. Goku was so powerful and so fast that while Hit stopped time Goku moved so quick that his actions and reactions were still on par with Hit. So if anything during this scene we found out that Hits ability does not stop time but slows it down to a very slow crawl for a % of a second but since Goku is so fast that Hit couldnt even see him that when he slowed time down Goku was still moving at what seemed like normal sped for Hit and himself

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#10 Posted by DEGRAAF (8399 posts) - - Show Bio

@diabla91 said:

Why jeans though? I mean that's just weird nobody should fight crime in jeans.

if i had Superman's powers i would fight in jeans

I will miss Kon-El. I liked him alot before N52 completely messed him up. They need to bring him back in his early to mid 20's (around Dick Grayson's age) and give him his original origin of being a clone that is part Superman and part Lex with Tactical Telekinesis. I guess that would put him to close to Supergirls age but i think it could still work. They could show them relating as ppl their age with those powers and they should really focus on his uniqueness as someone else stated. I think he could be a great character again. He could even have small talk with Jon about the difficulties of being a teenager and all that.