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If this was converted Walter, Alucard at level zero form, and the Captain in werewolf form this would still be a won battle for Team 2. Strange would be a non-factor as the Captain could annihilate him off the bat via speed blitz. WW and Superman all have multiple peak feats surpassing anything Alucard has shown in either the manga or the anime; there's only one recorded fight of The Captain and he dominates a weaker opponent through 3/4ths of the incident. It's ridiculous to imagine Walter stands a chance by himself without the tertiary benefits of vampiricism (he would still lose but it would be a sensible power up).

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@dark-sith123 said:

For all the people that haven't seen the movie, I hope you're not calling yourselves Star Wars fans. Outright ignoring canon makes such a claim rather hypocritical.

Anyway, it was a very good movie, better than Last Jedi, and you people put too much stock in box office for, like, the first three days.

Also, if you want to enjoy Star Wars enjoy it, but if you don't no need to come here talking crap about Kathleen Kennedy and Disney. It's not necessary.

The first weekend is by far the greatest indicator of a movie's box office success. Solo has no legs overseas and greatly undershot its projected gross domestically; reviews have been lukewarm from audiences and critics alike. So it probably won't have the benefit of avoiding the standard drop-off for the second weekend and beyond, which is further compounded by Memorial Day sluggishness.

Even its current gross would be acceptable if the reshoot didn't jack up its production costs into absurdity. It needs to make ~750-800 million just to break even, and prevailing estimates place its total at ~400.

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@blacharrt said:

I love the breakdown of this, and you are correct as it has been stated in several books, it's not telepathy, it's a illusion or a warping of someone's perception, it's not reality warping, because it generally only affects 1 person, and the environment around them doesn't change. It's possible that he may be displacing their minds in an alternative reality.

Fantomex can affect whole groups of people (see his introduction, Remender's Uncanny X-Force, etc.). Archangel referred to it as "reality skewing" but beyond that, no writer has ever bothered going into the mechanics of it.

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That being said given who T'challa is, I doubt this would work on him, BP taking on and beating Mephisto at his own game, means that BP wouldn't be easily fooled or feed into the deception. And this would only work once which means that Fantomex would have to take him down in the short time this would distract him. Which I don't think will be very long at all.

During that story Mephisto made deliberately overwrought illusions, intended to overwhelm and break BP's will; it was the middle of a particular intense negotiation. Fantomex relies on simple, pragmatic ones for cloak-and-dagger purposes. BP's past feats in resisting psychic or magical manipulation don't apply here as most deterrents (introspection, willpower, telepathic prowess, psi-blocks) don't work against misdirection. Even if you recognize it's in effect, the illusions still keep running.

The counters shown so far are:

- Fantomex gets injured and loses focus

- literally warping space-time to cancel them out

- creating a feedback loop in his nervous system that scrambles his concentration (which was frankly a BS solution Dark Beast came up with, as he uses misdirection to escape a few panels later and it never gets brought up again in the Archangel Saga)

Now it's perfectly possible that T'Challa can negate it with magic, some technology he has easy access to, or using the powers bestowed upon him by Bast. But I haven't seen any in-universe feats implying those are feasible solutions or arguable ones within a battle thread. It would be pure speculation at that point.

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The other problem here is that you are assuming that BP won't make the first strike, He is far better at stealth attack, has teleportation, Fantomex's weapons won't really have an affect on his suit, and Fantomex is outmatched in every category. So all it would take to win would be one good strike which BP could do easily. Since this is in character, it's highly doubtful that BP wouldn't have intel on Fantomex's abilities given his proximity to the x-men and he would prep for it, because that's what he does. BP would win this 9/10 times. 1 for a scenario where he couldn't figure out the misdirect... this is highly doubtful.

The OP never set the conditions of the battle and any confrontation involving prep time needs to be explicitly mentioned. So we are assuming a face-to-face battle with standard equipment. Which begs the question: since E.V.A. is his mutation, does she counter as part of his default equipment?

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Bleach hands down.

Bleach- Better story, characters, fights, music, protagonist, villains, animation, and almost everything else.

Fairy Tail- Better fanservice and ending (only because it wasn't rushed.)

Bleach is probably the most over-hated shonen like jesus christ.

I also may sound salty but it's ****ing bullcrap (sorry for swearing) how Fairy Tail is getting animated for its final season before Bleach. Bleach has sold twice the amount of Fairy Tail and does have a better final arc then Fairy Tail

The Bleach fanbase never gets a break lol.

Largely because it started off so well and then meandered into a mess of rehashed storylines, stagnant character development, and lazy artwork. The Soul Society arc is well-constructed and paced from a storytelling perspective in general. Not to mention Bleach's decline is really precipitous, more than any similar shounen I can recall.

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@spydey said:

I've seen several people mentioning how his misdirection is a form of telepathy but, now that it's been shown T'Challa has resisted two top tier telepaths, it's no longer telepathy. It's telepathy. Also, psychics aren't resistant to other forms of telepathy.

"Misdirection" has never been confirmed as telepathy. It has been intentionally left vague by most writers so they could mold its effects and boundaries to fit in the needs of whatever story they are working on. Most conjecture assumed it was a power akin to Lady Mastermind since it is reliant on concentration and it only worked on sentient organics. However, there are three main objections:

- He almost always requires his victims to be in the immediate vicinity or line of sight. Sensing and manipulating other minds outside of the standard five senses is a standard boon of telepathy, and it's quite bizarre that a telepath would show zero proficiency in other aspects of psionics regardless of form. Not to mention he lacks access to the Astral Plane.

- A doppleganger successfully tricked 616 Fantomex with his misdirection during the Deathlok Nation arc of Uncanny X-Force. That should be impossible as his ceramic psi-shields block all telepathic intrusion, and I mean all. Xavier, Jean Grey with the Phoenix Force, and the Shadow King have all attempted to probe his mind with no success. Just as relevant, neither of the first two recognized they were being misdirected when it was used on them. Telepaths of their caliber routinely detect any attempts to manipulate them mentally. Lastly, psi-shields traditionally block telepathic communication from both sides. If Fantomex was using any sort of telepathy or mental manipulation, he couldn't break through his own defenses (unless defense technology from the World was that advanced).

- In the same comic, a warped future version of Jamie Braddock broke his misdirection by undoing reality in the local area. If the ability was creating mental illusions or any form of TP, this wouldn't work.

My best guess is it's some weird quantum superposition state that is enacted when he targets other conscious minds, something like what Pythagoras Dupree used to confound Amadeus Cho in The Incredible Hercules. It's certainly not direct reality warping a la Franklin Richards, fine-tuned TK in the mold of Nate Grey/unrestrained Cable, or standard telepathy.

Long story short, Fantomex wins on virtue of this ability alone. I would give him a slight edge in physical attributes as well with KotD T'Challa having greater strength. However, Fantomex's redundancy systems would make a killing blow hard to accomplish e.g. he can function normally after getting shot in the head. Would have to specify tech if that's going to be a relevant factor.

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Luke Cage (although "low level" is a matter of perspective)

Mercury (when she chooses to)

Butterball

Frenzy

Outlaw

The older versions of Wrecker

Warpath (depends on story, his power levels oscillate wildly depending on author)

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Assuming all of these are drawn from the cinematic universes and he only has Mjolnir, MCU Thor shouldn't be able to reach Steppenwolf and his jobber army. He'll muscle his way through Iron Man (MCU Tony lacks the finesse and advanced technology of his comic book incarnations), but I fail to see any persuasive argument that Thor can tackle DCU Flash and Wonder Woman.

@thepunisherfan: @miekskywalker:its current post IW thor with stormbreaker

Then he probably stops at 8.

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I'm assuming composite Shepard is post-ME1, but class designation is vital to determining whether Shepard will have any impact in this fight.

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Please give specifics to make discussion as productive as possible. Which iteration of the Teen Titans, define "standard" when it applies to Akatsuki (there are 3 different versions with overlapping power issues regarding characters such as Zetsu), etc.