Captain Danvers

 She is in no way, shape, or form strong enough to beat some of the people she has beaten.

@Captain Danvers: I just gave you an example of Rulk being consistently PIS. She-Hulks book was garbage from beggining to end. But if you read her crappy book more carefully it even says she beat Champion because he had become to reliant on the power gem and let himself go. He stopped training and working out. So what you saw in She-Hulk's book was not the "normal or classic" version of him. So yes she beat him fair and square at that moment when he was out of shape. But if you saw Champion in Deadpool Corps, he is back to his normal, Classic self. When she beats current Champion She-Hulk will get some credit.

@Captain Danvers: Glad you realized She Hulk is trash.

@Captain Danvers: No one is arguing with you about feats.

1. I'm saying She-Hulks entire book was consistently PIS. If you want to say it's believable and well written then fine. It was the Loeb-Rulk comic of it's time. yeah i saw Rulk drain a Silver Surfer and punch a Watcher and kill an immortal elder of the universe. He did that stuff consistently. But it only shows stupidity can be consistently written.

2. If Marvel created Champion to be the best at what he does, they should portray him that way.

SERIOUSLY. She Hulk does not have the strength to daze someone who can withstand the weight of planets and take shots from Celestials. Who has she fought that was in this strength class? Hulk? Hulk has eaten one shotted Jennifer and beat her with little to effort. She Hulk has not fought anyone durable as Thor and caused them pain. AND YES ITS PIS, HER DAZING THOR WAS PIS BECAUSE HE HAS TOOK ON FAR WORSE.

I don't have to prove to you that She-Hulk had a strength upgrade.

Then how am I supposed to believe you? Take your word for it? Uh,no.

You're just dodging the fact that you lied and tried to mislead anyone based on a scan that you found and not actually reading the comic.

I'm not dodging anything and I didn't lie. I have read these comments and know the whole story.

When She-Hulk's gamma was out of control that's when she beat up the Champion, lifted The Thing's full strength with one hand and arm wrestled Hercules.

Again proof that she was amped?

. At least if you're not going to read the comics at least read a damn bio or something.

I find your insulting of my intelligence to be quite childish. Also flagged.

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I'm sure it's in there. She-Hulk wasn't class 75 when she fought Abomination. So seriously what are you talking about? And don't tell me you've read the comic and she didn't use a weapon because she did. Obviously you didn't see the other pages. She ripped a lightpost out of the ground and used it as a staff. Don't tell me to look up anything. You've been lying the entire time. Maybe try reading comics before making a case against a character.

That was the weapon you were refering to? The LAMPPOST? *Jesus Christ* She didn't even really hurt with that.

Maybe you should try to stop accusing people of lying when you have a distorted view on their strength level. You have not proven anything the only thing you proven is that you're a troll. Anyway, I'm done with this discussion. She Hulk is a character of BS, has no business defeating the people she beats, and has been poorly written time and time again. Why do you think her Ongoing got cancelled?

@Captain Danvers: Yes but he ranged him from the air. Hulk wont be able to do that.

Im gonna go with Champion cause he is an elder. Surfer couldn't beat scratch them so im not sure what Hulk can do. I am just guesstimating though.

@Captain Danvers: In my post to other people i admitted that Champion has no on-page feats. But just his history alone should tell you that no man who has done nothing but train and fight for BILLIONS of years is going to get beat by a girl whos spent most of her life being a lawyer. He has went to countless planets and destroyed the inhabitants with his own hands. Champion is shown as a joke when he should not be. I also saw Spiderman beat Firelord and Black Panther put Silver Surfer in an arm lock. Is it canon? Yes. Is it also BS,PIS,WIS. Yes. Just like She-Hulk's book.

Thor: I know what happened. She still had him dazed, WHICH IS STILL PIS. She-Hulk does not have the strength feats nor the fighting skills to even hurt someone as durable as Thor. She Hulk is a 75 tonner, while Thor has lifted things as heavy as planets. Until I see She Hulk show planetary level strength, she dazing was bad writing.

Hercules: I couldn't find the scans of the fight so I showed that instead. What proof do you have that says She-Hulk had strength on Hercules a level at the time. Sure She-Hulk was amped, but still what feats would put her on Hercules level? I'll tell ya, none. Until I see feats feats from Jennifer, that show she has thiskind of strength , its PIS IMO.

Abomination: Nerve strikes from a 75 tonner shouldn't faze someone who has traded blows with an Enraged Hulk. Again PIS. Weapon? I've read that whole comic and haven't once seen a weapon being used. And you accuse ME of making up stuff

Unless she actually have feats to back up her hurting them then its PIS. I suggest looking that up before insulting people and accusing them making up stuff.

Champion. Nuff said.

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@venomoushatred1001 said:

@Blacktimus said:

When Champion beat She-Hulk the first time, he did have the power gem, but when he fought her the second time without it she won. She-Hulk is NOT stronger than WWH, and she lost to him after he started the initial fight against him and his Warbound. I don't see how Champion is going to win against WWH when She-Hulk isn't even on WWH's level.

She-Hulk is a creature of pure PIS. She has defeated Thor, Hercules, Abomination, and others, who FAR stronger than her. That said, Hulk wins.

Did you actually read the comics where she fought those character or did you just look up scans..or more accurately are you just making up stuff? She never beat Thor, the most she did was daze him and they weren't even fighting. Thor didn't even understand why she punched him. I'm fairly certain she's never beaten Hercules either and she didn't flat out beat Abomination. She's a better fighter than he is and not only did she use nerve strikes (which can hurt superhumans even when used by street levelers) she got in his head and made him force his own loss.Sick of people downplaying She-Hulk's feats.Her feats are canon and consistent.

She did defeat Thor (major PIS at its finest):

She also stated she might be stronger than Hercules (which is just plain bad writing):

She also defeated Abomination (again PIS):

I would suggest doing some research before accusing someone of making up things. And no, a lot of She-Hulk feats should not be taken into consideration because she is a sufferer of bad writing and most of her fights are indeed PIS as the above scans are proof of.