Baron_BJ

I'm fine with a few mistakes, when characters get multiple ongoing titles in addition to random mini-series and one-shots continuity gets wonky at the best of times, but I do have to ask, how major are the mistakes, I doubt it's anything too egregious, but you seem to be aware of its failings, so if you're able to rectify some of the problems it has that would be fantastic. Thanks again for the link.

It was a surprise to me as well that I couldn't find a regular reading order. With chronological orders it seems like more of an exercise in just overall comic's knowledge and organising something that's not really been organised many times in the past, many of them are rather absurdly detailed, referring to specific pages/panels in issues rather than singular issues themselves. They serve no actual purpose though, so it was annoying that they were all I could find.

A Chronological order places the books in the order that the events they portray occurred chronologically in the story/universe. An example of how this could affect the reading of a title;

You're reading "The Adventures of Tigole Bitties", you reach and you finish #77 which gives Readers the revelation that Tigole's mother is in fact both his Aunt and younger brother, explaining both his stupidity and webbed fingers. This leads readers to #78 which is entirely a flashback issue explaining how such a thing could occur, however Tigole's book started when he was 30 and these events take place when he was a child, so in a chronological order #78 therefore becomes the very first thing on the reading order since it occurred first chronologically. You can guess how this would make a poor reading order.

You might feel that a reader should know better in the circumstance I just described because of the issue numbering and I would agree, however it becomes problematic with series/characters like Spider-Man where there are multiple titles all running at the exact same time along with a number of mini-series and one-shots, many of which have very important plot revelations contained within them.

I've been searching for a complete 616 Spider-Man reading order for a while and all anyone seems to have are "Chronological Reading Orders" which from a story telling point of view are quite useless (they're fascinating in their own right, but if you're in the mood to just read everything straight then they're terrible). If anyone knows of a proper reading order that would be fantastic, thanks.

I'm actually getting a bit excited for this movie now, I didn't hate the first one like some people, I saw it as a potentially amazing movie that just needed another draft and some tighter editing and sequels like this tend to take everything that worked previously and improve upon them (look at the jump in quality between Spider-Man 1 and Spider-Man 2).

Having said that, the Oscorp stuff looks weak and poorly tied in when compared to everything else in the trailers, like they're taken from another, worse movie.

@kartron: The show never said how the virus came to be, it just explained how it worked. To me it came across like the explanation was more or less to say to the audience; "They're ****ing dead, there's nothing to be done or saved, killing zombies is in no way morally questionable and these are the rules of how the virus works in the show so you can better understand dramatic moments that may come in the future".

OT: Kirkman himself has said that he never wants to explain what caused the outbreak, he says it would veer the series in more of a science fiction route and that's not what he wants with the book. I've gotta say that it's something I agree with, it's a mystery that can't be reasonably explained (especially given the fact that time actually passes in this universe, according to Kirkman by the time the Governor died in #48 more than two years had already passed, god knows how long it has been since then) and even if they tried to explain it, it would never live up to what people would have imagined themselves, nor would it just live up to the hype that would be inherent with the book having gone on so long.

I don't care enough to do the test, but I've done official IQ tests and I'm on record as having an IQ of 150.

I feel your anger on these ones, they're fairly amazing series, although All-Star has been in the high danger zone for a while now with DC seemingly having no plans on killing off the title, it's not the only title in such a situation (the aforementioned Batwing being in even worse shape for a far longer period) though, so there's a chance that DC has some big plans for the title or one of the high-ups at DC has a soft-spot for the title (both situations have occurred multiple times in the past).

Unfortunately Animal Man is ending on #029 in March 2014. It's supposedly not being cancelled, simply ending because Jeff Lemire (Series writer since the beginning) has decided to end the run and finish the book "on his own terms", although once the series ends he'll be writing Justice League United, a team that Animal Man will be a member of.

I have heard the good news about Teen Titans, it's just a shame that Teen Titans has been canned at the same time, most people are saying that's great because they're likely to launch the title again with a new team, but the problem is that Lobdell won't be able to finish up the Trigon arc before leaving. Granted, I didn't want to read what he had planned, but that leaves a major loose end that DC just isn't going to sweep under the rug, so it'll either be poorly wrapped up in another title (there's no real way to wrap up such a large character moment in someone else's book without it coming across as painfully forced) or the next Titans book will be dragged down dealing with it and if there's a new Titans book then there's probably going to be a large number of new team mates in the book and a large number leaving the book and if that's case it won't really matter how good the next writer is because suddenly they're trying to make us believe Raven cares about these people she's just met but the old ones were just... practise friends?

Basically Lobdell has tied a noose around the neck of the Titans and there's no way to cut the rope.

Batwing has been having abysmal sales for a very long time now, no one knows why DC hasn't cancelled it since it's been this low for a fairly long time now. Also, this chart only keeps track of American sales figures (but that's all anyone is ever able to really find).

*BUZZER* I'm sorry, that's incorrect, but not to worry, you'll still be going home with a copy of our home game.

There are certain titles, ones that are by and large considered cultural landmarks, that have such strong fan bases that no matter what happens they will have people who buy the comic, although the sales will be extremely lackluster in comparison to what they could be, we've seen the same thing happen to so many titles over the years that have survived extremely long rough patches purely based on their brand name alone, let's list off a handful of those (if a character/concept that I list stars/starred in multiple books then that is included), particularly those who have seen such periods in the past:

• Spider-Man
• Superman
• Batman
• Teen Titans
• X-Men

Looking at Teen Titans and Superman (both Lobdell titles), these are titles that could easily be pulling well, well over double their current numbers, Superman is only pulling in 36k sales for the love of god, Superman is a title that on a bad day should be sitting at 50k, if not higher. The exact same sentiment goes for Teen Titans and its terrible sales figures, these are some of the lowest sales figures these books have seen (Keep in mind I'm comparing to a large number of pre-New 52 sales figures since Lobdell has been vomiting through a pen on both of these titles since the beginning (well, since #12 on Superman, but I'll also concede that Dan Jurgens and George Perez got off to terrible starts when they tried writing since Grant Morrison didn't want to reveal the plans for his book; Action Comics. Why Morrison wouldn't tell them his plans is beyond me since he ended up writing something that was quite generic. Well-written, but generic)).