@TheJuggernautpunch: I haven't read nothing about him, but it seems awesome, The greatest STRATEGIST+I-KILLED-SUPERMAN monster... It is awesome (Unless something stupid happens in the comic)...
" @Crom-Cruach: ... Awesome.... Then I am unable to understand your point of view, I mean, I have known a lot of religious people, but I am able to understand them, I born in a Christian-Catholic-Roman family and I am atheist, even with my culture for me there a lot of thing that at the end makes no sense (Like god), but Why do you beleve in a greater good? You are such an interesting person... "
you would probably find that most people on this sight agree with him in full including the atheiests
@Crom-Cruach: ... Awesome.... Then I am unable to understand your point of view, I mean, I have known a lot of religious people, but I am able to understand them, I born in a Christian-Catholic-Roman family and I am atheist, even with my culture for me there a lot of thing that at the end makes no sense (Like god), but Why do you beleve in a greater good? You are such an interesting person...
@Crom-Cruach: There is no evil What does make people evil? What does make them good? for example, the Aztecs killed a lot of people, but for them it was a good thing, they were returning their life to the gods. The winners of a Mayan ball game were sacrificed for the gods, is that a bad thing? What does make them different from Hitler for him that was a good thing too, right?
yes I can. I believe there is right and there is wrong and am against this relativist bullshit used to justify atrocities.
@Deadcool
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Hitler from his own point of view he was a good person, for him the Jews were less than incects something that should not exist "
It doesn't matter what he though. He sent millions to the gas chamber and propagated hate and racism. There is no justification for that. Spew this kind of ridiculous relativism all you want. I'll never swallow it. There was and is evil in the world, Hitler was one of them.
I'm sorry but I call Hitler an evil person with every fiber of my body. It doesn't matter if he believed himself good or if other people agreed with him. To me his actions make him unilaterally evil.
Sorry but, you can't, this world has no real basement on Good & Evil, this world is just about beliefs and perspectives, you and me and everybody share different perspectives and most of them depends on the culture and your mental state, Hitler from his own point of view he was a good person, for him the Jews were less than incects something that should not exist, you cant judge that, he was crazy, for that reason Batman can't kill the Joker (LOL), the real evil just exist in comics.
.. Well, maybe you are right, my original source was an tv program that is not very reliable, then I will believe you.... I thought that Hitler (or Himmler) created a new religion that proclamed themselves as Aryan race and Hitler was something like a Messiah"
this is part of the agenda of some of the Thule Society's members, thought Hitler was never made a messiah. And he still suppressed the group. @Deadcool said:
" and that he stole a lof of "Relics" from a couple of religions, Is that true? "
this is nothing but propaganda mixed with distorted facts about the Thule society that did take part in occult practices like researching the occult origins of peoples to prove their belief and in the process they allegedly found some relics. Though that was never proven. Hitler suppressed the group. @Deadcool said:
" you just can't call Hitler an evil person,"
I'm sorry but I call Hitler an evil person with every fiber of my body. It doesn't matter if he believed himself good or if other people agreed with him. To me his actions make him unilaterally evil.
Lucifer, of course. I mean... if you're God's archenemy, and you've stuck around for longer than most if not all others mentioned have been alive... well, that says it all. God's not Superman. He'll kill a mutha'.
" @Crom-Cruach: But I have read that Hitler really had the Longinus Spear and the he had an obsession with the ocultism. http://web.org.uk/picasso/spear.html "
You have been wrongly informed. I am working on a PHD in (3)history. He was neither obsessed with occultism nor possessing the spear. In fact just where and (1)if the spear existed is open to debate. At the present moment, (2)there are at least 5 relics in different locations that all claim to be the true spear of destiny, none of them have been proven as so. This alleged obsession of Hitler with occultism is also not true. It's reconstrutivist history propagated by pop culture. In fact Hitler suppressed occult groups during his reign. He outlawed the Free-Masons and had 80 000 of them executed because he believed they were in league with the Jewish people he was also determined to wipe out. More important, he even suppressed the Thule Society, a german/austrian occult group that not only supported and believed his ideology but also worked to propagate it and empower it. This despite the fact that many of his early supporters were members. He professed on more then one occasion that mysticism and religion must take second place to loyalty and determination to serve the new Reich. Hitler was not an occult nut. Just a evil, murdering, incompetent leader with lots of charisma. Part of the reason the Axis actually lost was that at some point he took over military strategy from his very competent generals to plan for himself. "
Well yeah that is true...
there is also 6 copies of the Holy Grail (LOL)...
Well, maybe you are right, my original source was an tv program that is not very reliable, then I will believe you.... I thought that Hitler (or Himmler) created a new religion that proclamed themselves as Aryan race and Hitler was something like a Messiah, and that he stole a lof of "Relics" from a couple of religions, Is that true?
Something that I have learned about history is that it always should be in a neutral point of view, you just can't call Hitler an evil person, he was the first one in the modern world (Because the first ones were the Romans) in establish animal protection laws, and he thought that he was a good person, that everything that he did was for a greater good, he thought that he would purify the world... He is not evil, just as crazy as the Daffy Duck (Or even more).
" @Crom-Cruach: But I have read that Hitler really had the Longinus Spear and the he had an obsession with the ocultism. http://web.org.uk/picasso/spear.html "
You have been wrongly informed. I am working on a PHD in history. He was neither obsessed with occultism nor possessing the spear. In fact just where and if the spear existed is open to debate. At the present moment, there are at least 5 relics in different locations that all claim to be the true spear of destiny, none of them have been proven as so.
This alleged obsession of Hitler with occultism is also not true. It's reconstrutivist history propagated by pop culture. In fact Hitler suppressed occult groups during his reign. He outlawed the Free-Masons and had 80 000 of them executed because he believed they were in league with the Jewish people he was also determined to wipe out.
More important, he even suppressed the Thule Society, a german/austrian occult group that not only supported and believed his ideology but also worked to propagate it and empower it. This despite the fact that many of his early supporters were members.
He professed on more then one occasion that mysticism and religion must take second place to loyalty and determination to serve the new Reich. Hitler was not an occult nut. Just a evil, murdering, incompetent leader with lots of charisma. Part of the reason the Axis actually lost was that at some point he took over military strategy from his very competent generals to plan for himself.
Satan as seen in literature(not just comics) would be the greatest villain of all time. Not only is he insanely evil and powerful, but he's also been a huge influence on many villains that have come after him.
@Crom-Cruach: But I have read that Hitler really had the Longinus Spear and the he had an obsession with the ocultism. http://web.org.uk/picasso/spear.html
@csimon:I'll agree with Magneto it's hard to hate a villain when you have to struggle to prove him wrong. after all mankind's worst enemy has always been itself.
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