All is in the title.

Valeria Richards is smarter than her father.

^^  This, she's crazy smart, she just keeps it a pretty good seceret, even from her dad.

You know, with all the geniuses on Earth (comicverse) and all the crazy-advanced tech they have, it really is amazing that the world isn't more advanced. They could get rid of crime, sickness, wars, even establish a absolute world-monarchy (meh, I would, at least).
 
But anyways, I'd say it's impossible to say (unless an official source says so) who is the smartest in the Marvel Universe. Reed, Tony, Hank and Bruce are among my top choices. Tony is more of a technologist, mathematics, and engineering. Bruce is more of a biologist, chemist, and physicist. Hank is really into the quantum physics, artificial intelligence and obviously pym particles. And then we have Reed, who is seemingly an amalgamation of the others (he's smart in everything).
 
So, I guess I'd say Reed is the smartest, excluding his daughter.

" All is in the title. "

" @RealityWarper said:

" All is in the title. "

Who is the smartest real person and why? "Smart" is a pretty general term and we need some criteria to work with... "

" @Mainline said:

" @RealityWarper said:

" All is in the title. "

Who is the smartest real person and why? "Smart" is a pretty general term and we need some criteria to work with... "

Personally, I though it was pretty evident that he meant academically speaking. When people say "smart", 9 time out of 10, that's generally what they're referring to. They usually specify if they mean smart as to cunning, manipulative, etc. "

" @Reactor said:

" @Mainline said:

" @RealityWarper said:

" All is in the title. "

Who is the smartest real person and why? "Smart" is a pretty general term and we need some criteria to work with... "

Personally, I though it was pretty evident that he meant academically speaking. When people say "smart", 9 time out of 10, that's generally what they're referring to. They usually specify if they mean smart as to cunning, manipulative, etc. "

I don't think that's obvious and not necessarily what I would consider smart.  Academics is as much about discipline, rote memorization, and scope of knowledge as it is about intelligence.  A person could be extremely successful academic with an eidetic memory and performance enhancing drugs without having the traits associated with intelligence, innovation, reasoning, etc.  Book "smarts" are not street "smarts', etc.  Experience, factual knowledge, short-term memory, abstract reasoning, visual-spatial abilities, common sense, social aptitude, cultural adaptation, interpersonal skills, creativity and imagination, etc. can all be non-mutually exclusive tests for intelligence or "smarts".  Given such a multitude of relevant factors it's a little difficult to proclaim anyone the "smartest" in a linear sense, which is why I asked for express criteria. 
 
If all you use is the ability to process information, the Flash family may be well up on the scale, if you add memory to the test Bart suddenly soars ahead.  If you demand experience, application, or technology be an aspect you exclude youths like Valeria or anyone who's technological sophistication does not exceed a certain level- thus Leonardo DaVinci would not be as "smart" as Rhino... and frankly, Rhino would probably be able to do better academically than DaVinci on the same objective test unless you allow them both the same opportunity to learn in which case the test is not objective academic performance but academic ability / potential.  So it's far from a straight forward "evident" question. "

Banner or Doom.

What about Amadeus ?

@mainline : Yeah I agree in your point of view maybe I see intelligence as general "innovative problem solving" or a "creative power". Reed Richards is able to see things that Wolverine can't.

" @Reactor said:

" @Mainline said:

" @RealityWarper said:

" All is in the title. "

Who is the smartest real person and why? "Smart" is a pretty general term and we need some criteria to work with... "

Personally, I though it was pretty evident that he meant academically speaking. When people say "smart", 9 time out of 10, that's generally what they're referring to. They usually specify if they mean smart as to cunning, manipulative, etc. "

I don't think that's obvious and not necessarily what I would consider smart.  Academics is as much about discipline, rote memorization, and scope of knowledge as it is about intelligence.  A person could be extremely successful academic with an eidetic memory and performance enhancing drugs without having the traits associated with intelligence, innovation, reasoning, etc.  Book "smarts" are not street "smarts', etc.  Experience, factual knowledge, short-term memory, abstract reasoning, visual-spatial abilities, common sense, social aptitude, cultural adaptation, interpersonal skills, creativity and imagination, etc. can all be non-mutually exclusive tests for intelligence or "smarts".  Given such a multitude of relevant factors it's a little difficult to proclaim anyone the "smartest" in a linear sense, which is why I asked for express criteria. 
 
If all you use is the ability to process information, the Flash family may be well up on the scale, if you add memory to the test Bart suddenly soars ahead.  If you demand experience, application, or technology be an aspect you exclude youths like Valeria or anyone who's technological sophistication does not exceed a certain level- thus Leonardo DaVinci would not be as "smart" as Rhino... and frankly, Rhino would probably be able to do better academically than DaVinci on the same objective test unless you allow them both the same opportunity to learn in which case the test is not objective academic performance but academic ability / potential.  So it's far from a straight forward "evident" question. "

"I think you are right but Flash would not be up on that scale because the question is who is the smartest marvel character "

Earth bound Reed or Doom all around Thanos

Reed Richards

" What about Amadeus ? "

" @Mainline:  Kang for his knowledge of the future(s), or even Deadpool for his breaking down the fourth wall (had to fit it in there). But when a single person excels in all aspects of intelligence simultaneously and succeeds in bypassing the ambiguity of a complex and many layered question such as "who is the smartest there is?" then that ambiguity only serves to highlight and galvanize his or her supremacy over all others....  So in summation....Doom curbstomp. "

Doctor Doom .

I'm willing to make a leap here and say that honestly, Peter Parker can probably be in the top tier. He's made it his business to figure out how to outsmart a lot of different people. He just doesn't get as much credit as he should and I for one believe that's because he isn't as flashy as Reed, or Tony or even Hank. Provide him with the same tools as those three and I say he can do it. The man made web-shooters from practically nothing and outsmarted Reed Richards in one of their crossovers.

" @firewrkninja said:

"I think you are right but Flash would not be up on that scale because the question is who is the smartest marvel character "

You're confusing scale with rank.  A scale is means of measurement... like a ruler where Flash represented a notch for the purposes of the illustration.  "Smartest" is a rank as to who amongst a select set is highest on that scale. "

If all you use is the ability to process information, the Flash family may be well up on the scale, if you add memory to the test Bart suddenly soars ahead.

Even though it's probably Richards I gotta hype my boy Banner.

" @firewrkninja: That person was me.  You were trying to correct me by saying Flash would not be on that scale.  I was trying to correct you by saying I used the word scale specifically because a scale is a measure while a rank applies to a set. 
 
For example... "Who is the best basketball player in this room?" is a rank (smartest in Marvel)... but you can say, "Tom is the only one who beat Dick and Dick has beaten everyone else." even if Dick is not in the room (Flash not in Marvel)... here, Dick is used as a measure or scale, he is not part of the set of people in the room.  If you came along and said, "I think you're right but Dick is not in this room."  Most would realize the critique didn't make sense. "

I'm inclined to say Dr. Doom, but this can change with the direction they're taking Valeria in. Anyone who just walks into Dooms palace and talks to him like she did has got to be pretty damn intelligent. 

black panther.

...Tom (???)...

Thanos is the smartest .
But for earth in no particular order
Beast
reed richards
black panther
Bruce Banner
High Evolutionary
Cho
hank pym
tony stark
the leader
Dr Doom

I think the term smart is far too broad a term, each super-scientist (Doom, Pym, Richards etc.) has their own specialist field though one of the  most intelligent members of the MU in my mind is Pym. Then again Maybe i'm biased :)

Thanos.

@Reactor said:

You know, with all the geniuses on Earth (comicverse) and all the crazy-advanced tech they have, it really is amazing that the world isn't more advanced. They could get rid of crime, sickness, wars, even establish a absolute world-monarchy (meh, I would, at least). But anyways, I'd say it's impossible to say (unless an official source says so) who is the smartest in the Marvel Universe. Reed, Tony, Hank and Bruce are among my top choices. Tony is more of a technologist, mathematics, and engineering. Bruce is more of a biologist, chemist, and physicist. Hank is really into the quantum physics, artificial intelligence and obviously pym particles. And then we have Reed, who is seemingly an amalgamation of the others (he's smart in everything). So, I guess I'd say Reed is the smartest, excluding his daughter.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReedRichardsIsUseless

Thanos has been shown to outsmart Dr.Doom more than once. Reed and Doom are about even. Pym , Banner,Leader Egghead and Cho and Stark are all about even with Beast right under them.

Using only basic earthling creatures it is generally accepted that the smartest is Reed Richards. I could see arguments for Stark or Doom though. Doom is ... well Doom and managed to become the great destroyer and create his own method of time travel. Tony is a superhuman multitasker, he has incredible processing speeds that surpass Reed's best attempts. He could potentially use this ability to surpass Reed. Overall though Reed is currently the smartest.

Just curious... where would Arno Stark (Earth-616) fall on this scale? His mind was engineered with the intention of creating "the genius who would uplift humanity", and I'm fairly certain that he's at least on par with that of Tony's.

Now that he has the resources, he has shown himself to be smarter than Stark at the very least.

Bump. I know a list was made for marvel heroes but it’s a joke. I was wondering who everyone’s top 10 was.

My generic list:

0) High evolutionary

T1) Reed Richards

T1) Doctor Victor von Doom

3) Thanos

T4) Hank Pym/Ant-Man

T4) Bruce Banner/The Hulk

T4) Tony Stark/Iron Man

7) The Leader

T8) Amadeus Cho

T8) T’Challa/Black Panther

T10) Charles Xavier

T10) Hank McCoy/Beast

Help me edit it although I’m firm on my top 4.

@supermanwithatan01:

Your top 4 is pretty solid bro!

Reed

@cosmic_reign: thanks bud, what’s yours?

Very close to your list....maybe a slight change in order.

I'd also rank HE very high but I believe his expertise are more concentrated in specific subject areas(genetics etc) vs "all-around" intelligence. But I can be easily convinced otherwise.

Maybe Valeria Richards/Von Doom and Moon Girl would be up there.

I like your list of characters for sure homie!!

@cosmic_reign: thanks bud. I just don’t believe Moon girl has done anything of consequence. I tend to prefer feats to statements, and Marvel official stance on something has been so off lately so I take it with a grain of salt. I feel you on the high evolutionary. I just know he’s been around forever and he’s supposed to be as smart as possible so I just let him be 0 lol

Human I say Doom he has the magic, mystical thing going on and physics / science / robotics , while Reed is smart one of the best he doesn't really do magic. Ironman has also been getting much better feats