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    Should the Ultimate Universe be cancelled?

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    #1  Edited By The Enigma

    In my opinion I no longer see the point in having the Ultimate Universe when the main universe's books are so much better. 


    The novelty of the concept has now worn off.

    Marvel should instead put more money into main universe books and launch new series: one for each ultimate title.
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    #2  Edited By Cosmic Sentinel

    Presumably the ultimate books are selling well and provide an opportunity to tell stories outside of 616 continuity. From Marvel's point of view, those are good things they could lose by cancelling in favour of other (untested) books.

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    #3  Edited By The Enigma
    Cosmic Sentinel said:
    "Presumably the ultimate books are selling well and provide an opportunity to tell stories outside of 616 continuity. From Marvel's point of view, those are good things they could lose by cancelling in favour of other (untested) books."
    But haven't sales in books such as UXM dropped drastically? What I was saying was that it would be better if they dropped a few ultimate books and started new 616 ones: if they dropped UXm they could have a new x-men 616 book.
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    #4  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    There's no guarantee that the Ult. X-Men readers would follow to a new book if it got canceled.

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    #5  Edited By Vrakmul

    What i want to see again is marvel doing non Original IP comics again. 

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    #6  Edited By Bookman

    Perhaps Ultimate Spider-Man should, seeing as they already rebooted Peter to his teenage years, there's not any real point having it anymore.

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    #7  Edited By Bookman

    Perhaps Ultimate Spider-Man should, seeing as they already rebooted Peter to his teenage years, there's not any real point having it anymore.

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    #8  Edited By The Shadow Knight
    Bookman said:
    "Perhaps Ultimate Spider-Man should, seeing as they already rebooted Peter to his teenage years, there's not any real point having it anymore."
    I thought he was the same age in BND?
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    #9  Edited By zero edge

    Marvel looks like they're trying to expand the ultimate universe so canceling a book like X-Men is not a good idea. Plus whether the sales increased or declined, every month most or all of the Ultimate books do pretty well.

    http://www.comichron.com/MonthlyRankings/Diamond2008/DiamondApril2008/tabid/301/Default.aspx

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    #10  Edited By _Obsidian_

    Short answer: No.

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    #11  Edited By _Sojourn_

    NEVAAAAAA I love the Ultimate Universe, and the Ultimate X-MEN are the best

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    #12  Edited By Cosmic Sentinel
    Bookman said:
    "Perhaps Ultimate Spider-Man should, seeing as they already rebooted Peter to his teenage years, there's not any real point having it anymore."

    I only read Ultimate Spider-man and wouldn't switch back to Amazing if they cancelled Ultimate Spidey.
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    #13  Edited By zero edge
    Cosmic Sentinel said:
    "Bookman said:
    "Perhaps Ultimate Spider-Man should, seeing as they already rebooted Peter to his teenage years, there's not any real point having it anymore."

    I only read Ultimate Spider-man and wouldn't switch back to Amazing if they cancelled Ultimate Spidey."
    Ultimate Spidey sells almost as much as Amazing so why not keep both eh.
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    #14  Edited By pixelized

    yahhhh i like the UXM...sometimes...there's no reason to cancel it

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    #15  Edited By Cosmic Sentinel
    zero edge said:
    "Cosmic Sentinel said:
    "Bookman said:
    "Perhaps Ultimate Spider-Man should, seeing as they already rebooted Peter to his teenage years, there's not any real point having it anymore."

    I only read Ultimate Spider-man and wouldn't switch back to Amazing if they cancelled Ultimate Spidey."
    Ultimate Spidey sells almost as much as Amazing so why not keep both eh.
    "

    The sad thing is, Amazing should be thrashing it because it's one of Marvel's flagship books.
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    #16  Edited By Bouncing Boy

    For those of us who aren't actually liking the fact that SI is now in just about every title for the summer, I think the Ultimate Universe is perfect. Besides I love the New Banshee X-men. Angel looks cool as an Eagle.

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    #17  Edited By pixelized

    SI?

    angel is an eagle?

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    #18  Edited By Cosmic Sentinel
    pixelized said:
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    SI?

    angel is an eagle?

    "

    Secret Invasion and I agree, it's nice to have books that aren't thrown into summer crossover season. No idea about the eagle thing.
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    #19  Edited By pixelized

    oh mkay!

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    pixelized said:
    "oh mkay!"

    Augmented mutation triggered by use of ultimate "Banshee" (Mutant Growth Hormone).
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    #21  Edited By Bouncing Boy
    pixelized said:
    "

    SI?

    angel is an eagle?

    "

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    #22  Edited By Bouncing Boy

    In the next issue of Ultimate X-Men you will see Warren mutated into an Eagle after taking the drug Banshee.

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    #23  Edited By Airstrike

    Didn't Marvel originally create the Ultimate Universe so young fans could follow a character/title from the beginning and to create a more adult version comic.  The later is a bit of a joke because everyday they try to go further and further in the regular comics than ever before.  I am getting at Ultimate Spider-man started the series from scratch and the Ultimates were the "R" version Avengers, Right?  Now Marvel has went and re-started Spider-man yet, again?

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    #24  Edited By zero edge

    Somtimes you gotta go through the bad to get to the good =/

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    #25  Edited By fesak  Moderator
    Bouncing Boy said:
    "In the next issue of Ultimate X-Men you will see Warren mutated into an Eagle after taking the drug Banshee. "

    Aw crap. I saw the solicitation image and was hoping that would be Ultimate Beak.
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    #26  Edited By PhoenixGirl

    I don't like the Ultimates. The main universe is so much better,

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    #27  Edited By Secret-Spider

    NO WAY!!!!! Why would you do that. i have to say that the old ones are better, but they already have so many ultimate comics. They still have a lot to do with them.

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    #28  Edited By Korg

    The point of having them is that they probably make up a good amount of Marvel's sales over the past 6-8 years. Canceling the whole line would be financially disastrous, and would also alienate fans. All in all, a very bad business plan.

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    #29  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    Korg said:
    "The point of having them is that they probably make up a good amount of Marvel's sales over the past 6-8 years. Canceling the whole line would be financially disastrous, and would also alienate fans. All in all, a very bad business plan."
    Agreed. I'm no fan of the Ult U, but from a business standpoint it makes no sense to cancel it.
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    #30  Edited By Tevnoba

    Hell Frackin No!!!!!!!!!!

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    #31  Edited By dmstarz

    Ultimate Spidey's still pretty good, but I do think the whole thing is becoming increasingly redundant due to the quality of the regular books.

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    #32  Edited By Marshall Madness

    I SAY THEE NAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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    #33  Edited By Blazing Eagle
    Gambler said:
    "Korg said:
    "The point of having them is that they probably make up a good amount of Marvel's sales over the past 6-8 years. Canceling the whole line would be financially disastrous, and would also alienate fans. All in all, a very bad business plan."
    Agreed. I'm no fan of the Ult U, but from a business standpoint it makes no sense to cancel it.
    "
    I agree with both Gambler and Korg. Also if the Ultimate Line is canceled  like Cosmic Sentinel stated
    Cosmic Sentinel said:
    "Bookman said:
    "Perhaps Ultimate Spider-Man should, seeing as they already rebooted Peter to his teenage years, there's not any real point having it anymore."

    I only read Ultimate Spider-man and wouldn't switch back to Amazing if they cancelled Ultimate Spidey."

    Ultimate fans would not go back to the Main Marvel Universe and they would just choose some smaller company or independent publishers like Top Cow, Image, or even B publisher.etc.

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    #34  Edited By Super-Buster

    I completely disagree with canceling the Ult. U. For some readers like myself, it's what got me into comics. I haven't been around for 60 years and the back-story of the 616 comics are just intimidating. It's awesome to have a universe that I actually know and am growing up. Besides, I like Ult. comics better over-all.

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    #35  Edited By ahumancartoon
    Super-Buster said:
    "I completely disagree with canceling the Ult. U. For some readers like myself, it's what got me into comics. I haven't been around for 60 years and the back-story of the 616 comics are just intimidating. It's awesome to have a universe that I actually know and am growing up. Besides, I like Ult. comics better over-all."
    Yeah but when they start having the ultimate version of Nick Fury in the 616 version of Iron Man movie enough is enough. I understand what newer readers like you are saying, but can you imagine how confusing this is gonna get for an even newer reader.
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    #36  Edited By Apparition
    ahumancartoon said:
    "Super-Buster said:
    "I completely disagree with canceling the Ult. U. For some readers like myself, it's what got me into comics. I haven't been around for 60 years and the back-story of the 616 comics are just intimidating. It's awesome to have a universe that I actually know and am growing up. Besides, I like Ult. comics better over-all."
    Yeah but when they start having the ultimate version of Nick Fury in the 616 version of Iron Man movie enough is enough. I understand what newer readers like you are saying, but can you imagine how confusing this is gonna get for an even newer reader.
    "

    yeah everyone else seemed to like that, but i was like, that's not nick fury...
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    The new Ultimates where their fighting Magneto in the Savage Land was awesome. And the art was cool to

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    At one point, Ult.Spidey surpassed Spider-man in sales.

    I don't see the Ult.U getting canceled anytime soon.

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    #39  Edited By Ferro Vida
    Slight said:
    "NEVAAAAAA I love the Ultimate Universe, and the Ultimate X-MEN are the best"
    Tevnoba said:
    "Hell Frackin No!!!!!!!!!!
    "
    PREACH ON!
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    #40  Edited By Mr. Wilson

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