what if joker lived in marvel universe

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#1 Posted by ruler (664 posts) - - Show Bio

what happens how is relationship with other people listed below

Kingpin

Steve Rogers

Ghost Rider

Daredevil

Norman Osborn in dark reign

spiderman

Nick Fury

Deadpool

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#2 Edited by Redberry (818 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin- Similar to Lex Luthor.

Steve Rogers- I could see Joker trying to corrupt Steve

Ghost Rider- Probably never meet.

Daredevil- I could probably see Joker blackmailing Daredevil to make him defend Joker in court.

Norman Osborn- Probably just a random underling during the battle.

Spiderman- I could see him kidnapping Mary Jane.

Nick Fury- I don't think they would meet.

Deadpool- Either it will be a team-up or they will try to tear each other apart.

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#3 Posted by Video_Martian (5650 posts) - - Show Bio

He would probably become Daredevil's archnemesis or something.

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#4 Posted by KnightRise (4811 posts) - - Show Bio

@mr.obvious: I could see Joker changing his personality to attempt to undermine everything that Steve Rogers stands for, only because he has strict, unwavering, morals like Batman. And I'm recalling Infinite Crisis for Joker and Norman Osborn: jealously for not being invited,and murderous revenge.

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#5 Posted by Video_Martian (5650 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueLantern1995 said:

Punisher would find him and kill him...

This too.

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#6 Posted by AweSam (7527 posts) - - Show Bio

I think any one of them would kill him.

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#7 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

Kingpin

  • They'd be uneasy allies. Much like Lex is with him.

Steve Rogers

  • I don't think they'd interact much, really. Cap's not broody enough to have fun with.

Ghost Rider

  • If Joker was a GR villain, he'd be dead... Unless his penance stare has no effect on him (which I'd doubt)

Daredevil

  • Now here's a hero/villain match-up I'd like to see. If Kingpin can make Matt's life hell, I could only imagine what Joker would do to him. He and Bullseye would probably have contests over who could screw him over more.

Norman Osborn in dark reign

  • Similar to Kingpin. In fact, I think Osborn would underestimate Joker, and in return, Joker would try to usurp him.

Spider-Man

  • His relationship with Joker would depend on Joker's relationship with Osborn. Osborn already killed his girlfriend and scarred him for life, something very Joker-like. Joker would either leave him as is, or he'd try to out-do the Green Goblin and kill someone else. Aunt May? MJ?

Nick Fury

  • Like Cap, I don't think these two would interact much. If anything, Fury'd just kill him plain and simple.

Deadpool

  • I'd love to see these two together. Anything could happen, to tell you the truth.
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#8 Posted by BatteredArmor (6234 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlueLantern1995 said:

Punisher would find him and kill him...

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#9 Posted by sunhawk (650 posts) - - Show Bio

clown colored smear on the pavement when Joker upsets the Hulk.

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#10 Posted by chaosamoeba (3 posts) - - Show Bio

@sunhawk: On that note, assuming that he knew who the Hulk was before running into him, I'd assume he'd just trigger Hulk into a murderous rampage and stay far enough afield so that he's not in Hulk's way. The Joker's crazy, but generally not stupid or suicidal.

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#11 Posted by x_29 (2375 posts) - - Show Bio

If the joker existed in the marvel universe, he would be Spider-Man's new nemesis.

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#12 Posted by SupahForeigner (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Kingpin

  • They'd be uneasy allies. Much like Lex is with him.

Steve Rogers

  • I don't think they'd interact much, really. Cap's not broody enough to have fun with.

Ghost Rider

  • If Joker was a GR villain, he'd be dead... Unless his penance stare has no effect on him (which I'd doubt)

Daredevil

  • Now here's a hero/villain match-up I'd like to see. If Kingpin can make Matt's life hell, I could only imagine what Joker would do to him. He and Bullseye would probably have contests over who could screw him over more.

Norman Osborn in dark reign

  • Similar to Kingpin. In fact, I think Osborn would underestimate Joker, and in return, Joker would try to usurp him.

Spider-Man

  • His relationship with Joker would depend on Joker's relationship with Osborn. Osborn already killed his girlfriend and scarred him for life, something very Joker-like. Joker would either leave him as is, or he'd try to out-do the Green Goblin and kill someone else. Aunt May? MJ?

Nick Fury

  • Like Cap, I don't think these two would interact much. If anything, Fury'd just kill him plain and simple.

Deadpool

  • I'd love to see these two together. Anything could happen, to tell you the truth.
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#13 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (18985 posts) - - Show Bio

He would suck.

To be honest, the Joker isnt a Marvel type character.

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#14 Posted by Hazlenaut (2096 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he make his head quarters in Murderworld.

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#15 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (12435 posts) - - Show Bio
@BlueLantern1995 said:

Punisher would find him and kill him...

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#16 Posted by x_29 (2375 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man would kick his ass.

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#17 Posted by Aero_gt (846 posts) - - Show Bio

I could see Joker in a Spiderman or Daredevil book and Punisher too since they are in the same area more or less. King pin and Obsorn would mistake Joker for an insane lunatic and use him until it turns out that the Joker is the one using them. Joker deal with Lex and Bats all the time nothing new. I could see Peter being pushed over the edge to kill Joker since morally speaking he isn't as strong as Bats. Deadpool and him could have a love hate relationship. Avengers will have to stop him eventually as I see that Joker would adapt to the marvel verse and be well aware of the powersets and factions these guys have.

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#18 Posted by Primebonnick (3780 posts) - - Show Bio

he would raise hell only difference is you would have people in marvel willing to kill himi.e punisher, ghost rider, etc but he would give them hell

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#19 Posted by .Spider-man. (3874 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by Jorgevy (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

if he lived in the Marvel U, he wouldn't live for long, I guarantee

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#21 Posted by Batmandemon23 (139 posts) - - Show Bio

he and carnage would be BFFs

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#22 Posted by BlackWind (9777 posts) - - Show Bio

He would never survive in Marvel.

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#23 Posted by CF12793 (3084 posts) - - Show Bio

lol I've wondered this myself.

From what we've learned about reading the Batman/Punisher crossover from the 90's, The Punisher would definitely kill the Joker. He would NOT let him get away with all the shit that he's done in the past. The same thing probably goes for Ghost Rider. The only person in the Marvel U who would view the Joker as a major threat would probably be Spiderman, even though Spidey could easily give Joker a run for his money each time they'd fight. the Kingpin would probably have a rivalry with Joker similar to that of the Joker's relationship with Lex Luthor.

Deadpool and Joker would have a similar relationship that Deadpool has with most villains he encounters. They'd be major frienemies. :D Deadpool would fall in love with Harley Quinn at some point, causing the Joker to despise Deadpool, but still respect/admire him for all the killing he's done.

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#24 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jorgevy: That's so silly. Saying that is to say that 90% of Marvel's villains should also be dead by now.

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#25 Edited by Jorgevy (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crash_Recovery said:

@Jorgevy: That's so silly. Saying that is to say that 90% of Marvel's villains should also be dead by now.

ya right cause 90 percent of villains in Marvel have no powers and are bat crap crazy

also I said that mainly because of certain characters in Marvel that wouldn't hesitate to kill him, like the Punisher

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#26 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jorgevy: The Punisher rarely if ever kills any "name" characters so that's a pointless argument. By that logic, the Punisher would have cleaned up all crime in the Marvel U by now and would be standing on a pile of bodies including Doom, Magneto, Carnage, Thanos, etc.

If powers are what you think it takes to survive in the Marvel U, then Hawkeye, Captain America (since he's off the juice), Black Widow, Tony Stark (he doesn't wear the armor all day), Pepper Potts, Happy Hogan, and anyone in the Marvel U without a super power should be dead.

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#27 Posted by Jorgevy (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crash_Recovery: you really didnt get it did you? being a name character isn't in question because obviously you don't kill ANY money bringing character, at least not for long. Im talking about a more realistic or atleast a writer/company free universe

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#28 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jorgevy: That's great, but that wasn't the question.

In the same universe you're talking about, the Punisher would be killed by nearly anyone with a super power.

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#29 Posted by tupiaz (2259 posts) - - Show Bio

The Joker is not real a Marvel characther he wouldn't real fit in. However he would make a living hell for Daredevil and Spider-Man (the two most likely enemies). People that think he woudn't survive don't understand the Marvel universe. He could esaily live in a hideout. Also Spider-Man and Daredevuk don't kill and have the same no kill rule as Batman. So think the could be trick into kill him is just stupid. That is not understanding the Marvel universe. Likeverse Punisher don't kill others enemies so he woudn't kill the Joker.

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#30 Posted by Jorgevy (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crash_Recovery: not to mention that some characters just hang around together, the point is? I dont see it. what i do see is a villain who in the marvel U would get killed fast because he just doesn't fit there, and he can barely survive in his own due to writers who obviously make him live through anything, sometimes it even looks like he has superhuman durability. all that aside he shouldn't survive long in DC U let alone in Marvel U

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#31 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jorgevy: What I'm saying is that your point is true for nearly any character.

Spider-Man has defeated a herald of Galactus for God's sake. He's a guy with the proportional strength and speed of a spider, how does that make sense?

You seem to have a major beef with this character but your particular gripe is a major part of comics in general, not the Joker specifically.

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#32 Posted by HushoftheWind (1299 posts) - - Show Bio

i think Joker fucking with Cap would be too easy.

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#33 Posted by Jorgevy (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crash_Recoverysaid:

@Jorgevy: What I'm saying is that your point is true for nearly any character.

then it is true. thank you

@Crash_Recovery said:

@Jorgevy: Spider-Man has defeated a herald of Galactus for God's sake. He's a guy with the proportional strength and speed of a spider, how does that make sense?

You seem to have a major beef with this character but your particular gripe is a major part of comics in general, not the Joker specifically.

what does PIS have to do with this? also, I have no "beef" with any character except for Gardner and Namor. And I have no gripe with any major part or whatever you are saying or better yet, putting in my mouth as if I said it. Joker wouldn't survive long. that's what I said, that's my view on the question in the OP "what if Joker lived in the Marvel U". if you really have a need to bother someone and get into a fight over something then do it with someone else, please. if you love the Joker that much to defend him even when no one is attacking him, then go to a Joker fansite and leave the general comic stuff here in CV

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#34 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jorgevy: I have no issue with you Jorgevy, I just thought that your point didn't make sense in the light of many of the other characters in the Marvel U. Personally, I have no strong feelings about the Joker at all, I just thought your point didn't ring true for me.

I have nothing else to say on the issue and I'm happy to let you think what you want and I'll think what I want.

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#35 Posted by chasereis (803 posts) - - Show Bio

Well it would certainly explain why there were only 198 mutants left...lol.

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#36 Posted by THORSON (4444 posts) - - Show Bio

@ruler said:

what happens how is relationship with other people listed below

Kingpin - Kills him for his empire

Steve Rogers - Annoys the hell out of Cap, making Cap kill him

Ghost Rider - Joker dies

Daredevil - would give DD a challenge

Norman Osborn in dark reign - they could team up

spiderman - ties him up and throws him into jail

Nick Fury - he would bust Joker's face in before he can take action on his plan

Deadpool - Joker dies laughing

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#37 Posted by ShaoKahn (812 posts) - - Show Bio

lol Why would the greatest comic villain of all time would waste his time spending at boring overrated company known as Marvel ?

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#38 Posted by tikhunt (896 posts) - - Show Bio

@shaokahn: When did this become about Norman Osborne? O_o

On topic he be dead bro

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#39 Posted by ArkhamWrath (698 posts) - - Show Bio

Joker is to great character to be in Marvel company !!!

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#40 Posted by goatzilla (2203 posts) - - Show Bio

He'd f stuff up,big time.

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#41 Posted by DanteTheTravele (122 posts) - - Show Bio

He wouldn't be the same. The Joker is who he is because of Batman. Plus someone as murderous and inhuman as the Joker would quickly become The Punisher's number one target. Let's say one day he gets beat by Spider-Man, or Daredevil. On his way to Ravencroft he gets sniped by Frank.

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#42 Edited by graysonofgotham (520 posts) - - Show Bio
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I see it going down like this. “One Batch, Two Batch, Penny and Dime”

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#43 Posted by KingJoker (39 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Joker is a lot crazier and dangerous these day then he was in the past. He's also smart and if the End Game story line is to be believed he's been around a very VERY long time. Which means he's no amateur. He'd probably run circles around the vast majority of the MU. Also End Game hints he's possibly a demonic(qiute a few stories of a demonic clown are told in the story The Joker: Endgame) entity so Ghost Rider likely is the only one who could stand up to him because if Joker is more than he appears he's likely at the level of Loki but more demented.

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#44 Posted by Thekillerklok (3831 posts) - - Show Bio

Just imagine joker stealing some bad plot item of cosmic power...

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#45 Posted by Zakar23 (331 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Joker could cause a lot of trouble for the marvel U

1 he is the most crazy and deranged DC character

2 Endgame joker may have been around for maybe 500 years

3 He is in the DC universe which Has ridiculously overpowered heroes

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