So the Joker status right now?
So he has his new looks, facial scarring, bullet dent, discolored eye and cut tongue, but in other works (not including Brian Azarello's Joker or Kevin Smith's Cacophony because they ain't canon) he has a different, unaltered appearance. And I am confused ¿was it Gaggy the whole time in Sirens or just during the attack at Harley and Hush and the climax? I guess the still-running Batman and Robin with Dick and Damian will give us a bit more insight into Batman's greatest enemy's location and the way he rolls now.
Yep it was Gaggy the whole time in Sirens. Joker hasn't been seen since Damian ran his ass off a bridge in RIP and I really think his next appearance will be in Batman and Robin. It is unfortunate that Joker is the same old same old in most other comics he appears in it is annoying that no one draws him with the severed lips and bullet wound I'm not one to complain about continuity errors because usually they are small things people mess up but overlooking the fact that he had reconstruction surgery is where I draw the line.
And I for one am glad they ignore most this silly Joker extreme stuff people have been doing lately. Gore-like scars? Snake tongue? That just ain't comic book Joker...and odds are it'll keep being ignored. Classic Joker is classic for a reason. This sort of thing always happens. Someone comes along and visually changes a character up for a little while, then the appearance goes back to the default look that people know and recognize. It's happened with hundreds of characters.
@johnny spam said:
Um no...original Joker did not look anything like what's been done with him today. His lips were not gore-like scars. His tongue was not cut down the middle. The Joker is not a slasher movie villain, and resorting him to nothing but a mere killing machine is about as shallow and one-dimensional you can make a character. I'm well aware of the Joker originally being pretty much nothing but some homicidal maniac, but by no means does the original Joker pictures look similar to the rediculous "Joker extreme" of today. Is it truly any wonder why most artists and writers ignore the crap they've done with him lately?
"@MysterioMaximus: Gory Joker is more accurate to the original Joker who was a maniac who didn't tell funny jokes at all. I loved Batman the Animated Series but I feel that it dilluted Joker to much. "
@johnny spam said:
The original Joker had a permanant smile on his face as well I also say that the scarred look matches up to the original Joker because of the homicidal nature and the fact that his face was said to be stuck in a smile.
Joker's face wasn't stuck in a smile in that very issue. How do you think he was able to impersonate the policeman if he was constantly grinning? Hell, there are two panels of him in that very picture where he isn't smiling.
I agree with Mysterio. Joker's character has evolved beyond what he was in the 40s.
That is upsetting that in his appearances since RIP he has not changed, RIP was a very high-profile story and DC pretty much gave Grant Morrison the keys to the "Bat-universe" so it is vexing when other writers/artist don't follow canon. I guess for me I am just not going to consider his appearances since RIP canon. and just wait until he shows up in Batman & Robin.
Alex Ross and a few other at DC offered up a theory that I really like.
The chemical bath Joker was immersed in made him almost a type of "undead". Not in a supernatural sense, but in a sense that he can't really be killed. He has healing factor/ damage resistance powers. He recovers from any thing and eventually returns to how he looked when he originally emerged from the chemicals. His healing factor is no where near as advanced as Wolverine's of course. Maybe re genitive powers would be a better term. He can be hurt, blown up beat up,and suffer. But he always completely recovers. Hell, he keeps going through damage that would kill or cripple another man.
When Paul/Batman broke his arm, busted him up and beat him unconscious, he popped up in the ambulance and escaped. He's been hit by a semi and knocked off a over pass into oncoming traffic. Shot in the knee but walks and runs just fine. He's been struck by lightening on a steel girder and plummeted into the ocean during a hurricane. He was even executed in the electric chair once, before he was declare legally insane. He crawled out of his grave with his henchman's help. Outside of Elseworld stories, he has never been permanently damaged after the chemical bath. I know Nightwing beat him to death, but I wonder if he would have even recovered from that if given enough time. I think, no matter what happens to him, he will eventually return to "normal."
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