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    Character » Joker appears in 4237 issues.

    The Joker, Clown Prince of Crime, is Batman's arch-nemesis. An agent of chaos known for his malicious plots, wacky gadgets and insidious smile, he has caused Batman more suffering than any other villain he has ever faced. His origin, name, and true motivations remain a mystery.

    Favorite Joker Origin story?

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    #1  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

    What is your favorite Joker Origin mine is the one where he was the mobs best hit man who was introduced to chemicals and went crazy. It is the coolest to me and explains his genius level knowledge of engineering and chemistry. As well as his fighting skills and his pin point marksman ship

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    #2  Edited By InnerVenom123

    I like the more sympathetic one from "The Killing Joke".

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    #3  Edited By Caligula

    I like his background to be anonymous

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    #4  Edited By EisforExtinction

    I like that he's so messed up and delusional that he creates his own false origins.

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    #5  Edited By Strafe Prower

    The Killing Joke did a good one.
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    #6  Edited By Theodore

    Killing Joke is the best!!

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    #7  Edited By General Jupiter

    I liked Lovers and Madmen for the origin

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    #8  Edited By joshmightbe

    i like the fact that he has multiple origins and noone really knows where the hell he came from or why he does what he does its better that way
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    #9  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

    Bump lol

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    #10  Edited By Supreme Marvel
    @Caligula said:
    " I like his background to be anonymous "
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    #11  Edited By Zoom

    Killing Joke but I love that nobody knows.
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    #12  Edited By EdwardWindsor
    @InnerVenom123 said:
    " I like the more sympathetic one from "The Killing Joke". "
    agreed
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    #13  Edited By Croaker

    Killing Joke.

    Why? I think the story is far more interesting than him being an already unstable career criminal. It makes his character creepier because he used to be a normal man who simply went irredeemably insane.

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    #14  Edited By Crom-Cruach

    Killing Joke was the best written Joker origin in my opinion. But I totally agree that it's best that no definitive answer has ever been given.

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    #15  Edited By Nighthunter

    I agree with Dini, the Joker works better without a definitive origin because it keeps him from becoming a tragic figure. He is a psychopath and the world's greatest at that and making him a martir takes the vibe away from him

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    #16  Edited By Erik

    I like them all. It is part of his appeal to me. 

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    #17  Edited By likalaruku

    Lovers & Madmen. It reflects the modern Joker best.  I reguard The Killing Joke as outdated & almost out of character for the Joker, but it still holds to Oracle.

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    I am going to have to agree with every one else, I enjoy the Joker's lack of a background.  It's part of his appeal.  Yet if I had to pick one, it would be the Killing Joke for sure.  Which that actually brings a question to mind... and I am curious to what D.C. would actually say.  Seeing as how D.C. claims he has no definite background, and the Hush series is one of the stories that is widely received as part of the Batman continuity... would the Joker's proven "Killing Joke" past in Hush Returns be slightly disproving of that?  I really wish the writers would have taken in consideration that he is best left without a background.
     
    p.s.  Grant Morrison... I hate what you have done to my fav hero.  How dare you not only make him look different, but you also changed the very foundation of the Clown Prince, his personality.

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    #19  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt

    The Joker is less a person, in my opinion, than a force of nature. He is chaos personified. And because of that, I prefer him to not have a strict origin, though the Killing Joke is easily the best if I had to pick one.

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    #20  Edited By Silver Knight75

    If I had to pick one, I'd say him falling into a vat of chemicals to the one I prefer the most.

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    #21  Edited By Jotham

    I like the way it was handled in Dark Knight, where you don't really know anything about him. I always kind of disliked the chemicals making him crazy origin. Why can't he just be crazy?

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    #22  Edited By TGalinsky

    I like him not having a background and having it be mysterious 

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    #23  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @TGalinsky said:
    " I like him not having a background and having it be mysterious  "
    My thoughts exactly.
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    #24  Edited By Mokey
    @xxSadisticSmilexx said:
     
       "p.s.  Grant Morrison... I hate what you have done to my fav hero.  How dare you not only make him look different, but you also changed the very foundation of the Clown Prince, his personality. "
    You don't even know what has planned yet. Don't judge a book by it's cover. 
     
    As for me, I like The Killing Joke.
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    #25  Edited By The_Jokes_On_You

    I perfer that the Joker not have an origin. Mainly because I think the Joker is better that way. The fans can think of all these horrible things that happened to him but we will never truely know for sure. Plus, I'm afraid if they do make a definite Joker origin it won't be disturbing enough for anyone to truely think that that situation made him the one and only Joker.

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    #26  Edited By Mr. Smiths
    @Son_of_Magnus said:
    "What is your favorite Joker Origin mine is the one where he was the mobs best hit man who was introduced to chemicals and went crazy. It is the coolest to me and explains his genius level knowledge of engineering and chemistry. As well as his fighting skills and his pin point marksman ship "

    Was that the golden age Joker?
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    Killing Joke is the Best one hands down

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    @FadeToBlackBolt said:
    "The Joker is less a person, in my opinion, than a force of nature. He is chaos personified. And because of that, I prefer him to not have a strict origin, though the Killing Joke is easily the best if I had to pick one. "

    @EisforExtinction said:
    "I like that he's so messed up and delusional that he creates his own false origins. "

    @Caligula said:
    "I like his background to be anonymous "

    He is Chaos, he is the Theory that Random Acts of Injustice in the universe are evidence that there is no Justice, Morality, Good or Evil. 
    Batman is the Theory that Random Acts of Injustice are evidence that the universe, have Justice and taht make the universe be about Justice, Morality, Good and Evil. 
    Thats why one can not live without the other.
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    I read Brave and the Bold 33 the other day, in i we see another Joker origin where he was always evil and psychotic, even in his childhood.

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    Several years ago, when I was a kid, I read a comic book featuring the joker. At one point, he tells his mooks that his father was an insane artist, who got angry with the kid Joker and shoved these experimental paints in his face, which bleached his face and changed his hair color. As I recall, this was a lie, but I thought it was a cool story anyway. Anyone recall which book includes this story?

    Thanks!

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    Honestly, I'm a big fan of what Scott Snyder is doing with Joker's origins. Making him some-kind of immortal demonic pale-man of legend. I've already posted about this in another form, but I'll post it again for discussion.

    First off, Joker being immortal certainly makes him twice as scary. Joker was always a metaphorical force of nature, when he was a man. While Batman was representative of all the good mankind could do, Joker was representative of all the bad. It makes sense. Two sides of the same coin. All that jazz. Which is still there, it's just not as present as it used to be. Mostly because now he could quite LITERALLY be a force of nature and that is horrific if you really sit down and think about it.

    Batman is now representative of mankind and it's fight to constantly find meaning and even fight against the unexplainable and the unknown. Joker is that unexplainable force, he's everything that mankind seeks to know but can't comprehend. That point was especially driven home in the back-up stories. Where the Doctor thinks she understands that which hasn't been understood....only to find out that there is no way of fully knowing the unexplainable. That the unexplainable will always find a way to continue being, an unexplainable.

    So not only does this new Joker origin continue the trend of Joker's true origin never being known. But it pushes the dial up to an 11. Now he could be anyone or anything. He could be a demon, a cavemen, a robot, a monster, a man, mobster, or even all the above. Plus it continues the trend of him being a force of nature, but in a more literal sense now. I really dig it.

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