@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:
i think its apocalypse fault jean and scott broke up because scott turned more darker after his experence with the evil being:
i guess bad guys win after all :'(
I never really saw any of Apocalypse's influence in Scott from the time Search for Cyclops ended through the end of Morrison's Run. I was looking for it.
Scott blamed Apocalypse's influence on his willingness to share psychic intimacy with Emma Frost. But, I think Emma called him out on it (or maybe it was a remark directed at Jean. Cant remember.) But she says something like 'Scott was possessed by nothing more that the reality of his dull marriage...'
While I don't wholeheartedly agree with her statement. I do believe that Scott shouldn't have been able to use his former possession by Apocalypse as an excuse for his psychic affair.
Scott's actions in Utopia/ Schism / AvsX / Marvel Now seem to be more of what I was looking for immediately after Search for Cyclops. This current Scott seems to bear more of Apocalypse influence. But I'm sure it's purely unintentional. By now, the writers at Marvel have undoubtedly forgotten about Search for Cyclops.
@PhoenixoftheTides said:
I like Grant Morrison and have read many of his other stories, such as "Flex Mentallo", "All Star Superman" and a few other issues of comics he has written for here and there. I consider him very talented, extremely interesting and capable of bringing a Silver Age sense of energy to a genre that often falls back on guns to create drama. That being said, I think his run on "New X-Men" would have been much better if (beats dead horse) there were stronger creative/editorial oversight over what some of his changes would mean for the characters. I don't think Jean Grey had to die in New X-Men, but Morrison has admitted in interviews that his interpretation of the X-Men mythos made him think that Phoenix had to come back and die in order to make it feel complete. I think he likes Jean as a character somewhat, but didn't really know how to kick off a major change without getting rid of her. He did a great job writing her as in control of the Phoenix, so I don't think he didn't find anything interesting for her - I just think he was using her and Magneto's deaths as a way to break out of the stasis the X-Men franchise increasingly found itself in.
I agree with this. If anyone here has followed my posting history, you'll see that I'm both a fan of Morrison's New X-men and of Jean Grey.
When I look at how Morrison was developing Jean's character, I almost think she did indeed have to die at the end of his run. Especially if the more recent X-men stories, have always been in the working.
As Morrison wrote Jean, she was totally in control of her powers. She was at the height of mastering her telepathy and telekinesis. Professor Xavier was grooming her to be the next Headmistress of the Institute. She was shown to be a leader in the issue where the U-men attacked the school while she was the only senior X-man around. She was becoming the face of the school in press conferences with the media. She was, in some eyes, being written as 'losing her humanity' because of her growing Phoenix potential. However, I saw many of her humanistic traits explored- the ones that initially made me a fan of her character anyway.
The first moment she was able to detect Dust, while overseas. She kneels down, smiling and introduces herself and the team. She could feel how scared Dust was and wanted to easy the tension. That subtle moment always stuck with me when reading- good writing of Jean's compassion.
We saw her deal with, in a professional manner, the new arrivals at the mansion. She tried to keep it peaceful with Emma for a while. She even took a moment to acknowledge Sage in one panel, when she and Bishop were investigating Emma's murder. We all know the history with these 3 women. It couldn't have been easy to work alongside them. Yet she did, when freeing Charles from the psychic prison Cassandra Nova placed in his mind.
We saw her tending after Charles Xavier, when he first came in contact with Cassandra Nova in cerebro. Yet she stood her own, when he asked her to "fetch his chair" while still showing him respect.
There were so many moments that I appreciated in Morrison's writing of Jean.
I think the most impactful deaths, are always those where you see a person reaching their potential, and then their life ends suddenly. I believe Morrison did this with Jean. (I still think a suprise stroke at the hands of Magneto-clone thing was a strange way to go, but meh.)
In many ways, the lack of Jean's presence has allowed the X-men to get to their current state in comics. We all know that if Jean were still around, some of most recent events simply wouldn't have gone down. Not with the bold, Jean Grey Morrison was writing.
...Not to mention any of the esoteric Here Comes Tomorrow 'watering the universe with the phoenix's hearts blood to mend a possible future and ascend to the White hot room, Phoenix of the Crown' things. Too open to interpretation. ;)
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