Before I get to the question I will refresh your memory/inform those who never knew the actual story of the death of Jason Todd aka "A Death In The Family".
Jason Todd
Character » Jason Todd appears in 1754 issues.
Jason Todd was the second Robin, until he was brutally murdered by the Joker. After he was resurrected, Jason learned Batman didn't avenge his death. Anguished and seeking vengeance, he initially turned against his mentor and father figure and took on the Clown Prince's former identity: the Red Hood. He eventually returned to the Bat-Family and assembled a team of anti-heroes known as the Outlaws.
Is Jason Todd responsible for his own death?
We've been over this before in other threads. Most of us agree, it was not Jason's fault. Was the move risky? Yes. But it's more Bats' fault for not anticipating the consequences of Jason's circumstances.
" We've been over this before in other threads. Most of us agree, it was not Jason's fault. Was the move risky? Yes. But it's more Bats' fault for not anticipating the consequences of Jason's circumstances. "Okay,so Batman should have anticipated Joker in Africa?Riiiiight.It's the fault of the DC management,they wanted Todd dead and made him unlikeable so that fans would too.DIAF is a gimmick story,anyone who's read it knows that.I mean Joker becoming ambassador to the UN? FAIL.
No. The whole point of the article is that Jason's death was because he was TRICKED BY HIS OWN MOTHER.
It wasn't his fault. I mean if you were a super hero and you just found your mother and tried to save her from, who you thought she had no idea of his identity, then you would probably do the same thing that Jason did. I know I would. To hell with what Batman told him to do. Its his mother in there. Batman isn't very good at seeing emotions and what not. It took the death of Jason for him to finally grow a damn back bone. I blame Batman for his death. He should've been there in time to save him and he wasn't. EPIC FAIL!
No. The Joker is responsible for Jason's death; Jason's mother, Sheila, would be considered an accomplice in the act. No blame should be laid at Jason's feet, doing so would be victim blaming.
To be honest I think everyone was to blame for that. Bruce for arguing with Jason making Jason run off to find his mother alone. The Joker for actually doing the deed. Jason for being careless and not thinking things out. And his mother for being a cold hearted bitch. Each one of them is to blame for a different reason and each one is no more to blame than the other. It took all of them working together to fail this bad.
In universe the only person to blame is the Joker. He did it. Its his fault. Bruce failed to make it in time, sure. Even Bruce believes it was his fault and he carries that cross to this day. In retcon, Batman writers have changed the story that "This horrible tragedy happened and it was aweful. Joker killed Jason." to "Jason killed himself by being a reckless, ill-behaved emotional nutjob who never did anything Bruce told him.". But in the end, Bruce is responsible for Bruce's actions. And for the writers who have done this "retconning", its dumb and its stupid to pigeon hole Jason's death on him or Jason himself.
Joker did it. In those brief moments where Joker beat Jason, Jason saw the very truth of Joker's soul. He saw that the madness was the mask. That this disgusting, sociopathic monster had so ingrained his identity as a madmen in the hearts and souls of others, becoming the darkest form of fear, that he tricked himself into believing it was true.
The Joker is the darkness that Batman could become. Bruce has the means to eliminate his identity, fake his own death, and truly decsend into the "Batman" persona. He has walked the edge of this identity crisis many times and it has always been one of the many issue his character faces over time. When the line is blurred.
Joker has crossed the line and is never coming back. Back deep in the very maelstrom that is the Joker's mentality, in the very center of all the chaos, lies the sanity and clarity of the man he was, the man he has always been. A man who sees the chaos and accepts it has his weapon. Because this man is evil. This man, this core of who Joker is, his TRUE identity is that of a man who really does enjoy hurting others.
Because the crazy thing about the Joker is that he is sane. He is completely sane and knows it. In Alan Moore's "A Killing Joke", in a STUNNING moment of clarity, that man in the eye of the storm shows himself to Batman. He shows Bruce the truth. That its too late for him. That there is no saving him. Because he doesn't want to be saved. And then, without a hitch, he walks back to the center of the maelstrom and the storm rises once more.
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