Is Gambit's agility Superhuman?

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#1 Posted by RenaissanceMan (1462 posts) - - Show Bio

I ask because Marvel has had it listed at peak human, but also as being Superhuman. So which one do we follow?

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#2 Edited by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the official stat is "near superhuman" but his feats clearly put him into the Superhuman range (I believe there are a couple threads for this already)

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#3 Posted by Wolverine008 (50672 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, it is superhuman. Part of his mutation.

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#4 Edited by Tyrus (1208 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, it is superhuman. Part of his mutation.

Doesn't his ability to tap (into) energy kind of play into that?

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#5 Posted by PowerHerc (86164 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Gambit's agility is not superhuman.

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#6 Edited by Wolverine008 (50672 posts) - - Show Bio

@tyrus said:
@wolverine08 said:

Yes, it is superhuman. Part of his mutation.

Doesn't his ability to tap (into) energy kind of play into that?

Yes, the kinetic energy his body controls seems to naturally push his agility to superhuman levels.

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#7 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm curious where you guys are getting that his agility is superhuman because of his mutation? Seems like speculation at best.

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#8 Posted by Wolverine008 (50672 posts) - - Show Bio

I do think Gambit's agility is superhuman. He's been able to dance around with Daredevil (who has superhuman agility) in a fight.

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#9 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: I should clarify myself. I personally think he has "feats" of superhuman agility. Much in the same way Captain America and say, Batman, have "feats" of superhuman achievements. What I'm asking though is in terms of his mutation augmenting his agility to known superhuman levels, was this established in a comic? Does it say this in a handbook? I've read it on websites and Gambit profile sites that are edited by "fans" but I dont recall ever seeing it stated on panel. (not that it couldnt have been)

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#10 Posted by youmessinwithme (1652 posts) - - Show Bio

it says his powers to grant his superhuman agility on his comicvine Bio but i'd never heard that before. and Dardevil's agility (although above any real humans) is only peak human in comics so Gambit matching his speed isn't a superhuman feat. nor was he faster or more agile than Cap in AvX.

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#11 Edited by Joygirl (21019 posts) - - Show Bio

It is superhuman. I remember someone mentioning, I think Rogue, while they were playing basketball and everyone was cheating.

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#12 Edited by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: Actually I believe that was Jubilee talking about Rogue...

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#13 Posted by Joygirl (21019 posts) - - Show Bio

@_caesar_: Yeah but Rogue wasn't cheating and Gambit was. Read whole comic, they call Gambit out and specifically mention his agility.

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#14 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: You mean this one? She points out he has "natural agility" that could be anything from Olympic, Enhanced, Peak, or Super. And based off the moves he was showing it didnt look like anything special. Gifted, sure, tricky, yeah, but superhuman? I dont see it in this case. There are other examples though that show him performing moves that would seem to be superhuman, but so does Batman and we know he isnt superhuman.

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#15 Edited by Joygirl (21019 posts) - - Show Bio

@_caesar_: Well she said "using them", you generally don't "use" powers that are on all the time.

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#16 Edited by vance_astro (89933 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Gambit isn't superhuman in anyway. I think his agility was stated to be "NEAR Superhuman".

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#17 Posted by w0nd (6607 posts) - - Show Bio

those powers are tricky, it's like being a mutant genius, how do you dumb yourself down

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#18 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: I'll simply leave it at this. Third paragraph.

"Gambits ability to tap energy also grants him "near" superhuman agility and dexterity."

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#19 Posted by Wolverine008 (50672 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn You're a big Gambit fan, what's his agility level officially listed at?

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#20 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

Now I'm insulted. This thread no longer deserves the privilege of my greatness.

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#21 Posted by God_Spawn (40435 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Edited by Wolverine008 (50672 posts) - - Show Bio

@gambler:

Get lost. We don't want or need you here :D

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#24 Edited by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Edited by Ascended (624 posts) - - Show Bio

@owen_porter: http://marvel.com/universe/Gambit

"Gambit's ability to tap energy also grants him superhuman agility and dexterity, as well as creating a static interference that shields his mind from detection and intrusion by even the most powerful telepaths."

Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Gambit#ixzz2zeRlbHu0

Also, the power grid on MARVEL.COM is more accurate than what you provided. It has Gambit's every part of his stats higher than that.

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#26 Posted by k4tzm4n (40013 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always viewed Gambit's agility in the enhanced range but his reflexes are debatably superhuman.

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#27 Posted by ComicsrulebutDBZdoes2 (7569 posts) - - Show Bio

Easily superhuman feats and not a few but many and on here we go by feats I thought so yes he's superhuman agility plus, gambits quite mysterious In some ways that's why it's debatable as he never goes out right and starts talking about his powers much so this makes me seem to believe he can do more with kinetic energy

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#28 Edited by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (82985 posts) - - Show Bio

@ascended: I dont see how a wiki edited by "fans" and a power grid that doesnt even list agility or dexterity is more accurate then a page straight out of Marvel Handbook (also subject to scrutiny, but less so then fan based opinions). But as a fan you can believe whatever source you want. But if you pay close attention to the scan I posted from said Handbook, under the section titled "Superhuman -Powers" third paragraph, you'll see that whichever fan edited Gambit's page on the Marvel site copied it word for word from the Marvel Handbook and then decided to leave out the part where its clearly states, "Near Superhuman agility and dexterity.

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near-superhuman agility and dexterity
near-superhuman agility and dexterity

I imagine "near" varies from person to person. But there it is :)

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#29 Edited by Ascended (624 posts) - - Show Bio

@owen_porter: Can I get the website where you got that thing from? And plus, how do you know that yours isn't edited either?

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#30 Posted by Wolverine008 (50672 posts) - - Show Bio

I remember this thread!

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