Is Thor really a God?
" Ok this might be a stupid question but is Thor Really a God? Because in order to be a god you have to be omnipotent, omniscient and be omnipresent and even thow Thor has the Odin Force and has the power of the power of the Asgardia Runes he is not. "That is a definition of a GOD in some religions. In Greek, Roman and Norse religion good where not as someone here put it, omni anything, and also, you are looking for logical answers in comics which you really shouldn't do.
To be honest I don't know. But if you were going buy the omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent thing then that means Beyonder, One Above All and Q from Star trek would be gods to. Heck Kyle Rayner after geting the power of Ion for the first time or Billy Batson when he got the powers of Shazam they would also count because when they got the powers for the first time they also has omnipotent, omniscient and they were omnipresent.
the gods from old mythos wer not omni anything like the other guy said where did you get that you have to be compleatly omnipotent? (that includs hte other omni stuff).
Well technichally in some marvel stuff him and the Asgardians and all the other gods are extra-dimensional aliens with tech that is basically magic compared to even the most advanced races, and when they came to earth they were hailed as gods. But in regular Marvel continuity he is a god. They might use the magic-tech stuff in the movie but I don't really care it would still be good.
The definitions of god or gods is very subjective. God is a title that is usually bestowed upon other beings by lesser beings. Superman matches any of the old mythological gods in terms of power as does a great many other characters. So yes Thor is a god according to the Norse definition of what a god is.
the christian God's omniscents and omnipressence are both very questionable using the bible as reference but yes he is a god
coming from the guy who's name if flipped upside down woul start with "666"....lol nah jk jk man.
" Yes, he is. Omnipotence is a paradox also, that could neve happen. "That's a common misconception born out of gibberish thought experiments such as creating the unliftable rock and equivocation.
"Omni" means "all" or "every" and "potence" here means "power" or "ability". The monotheistic vision is of a god who possesses all powers and abilities that exist. So if there is no power to create an unliftable rock, the monotheistic god would not possess that non-existent gibberish power. This is completely in line with the meaning of "omniscient" or "omnipresence" which enable all knowledge or all presence... they do not grant presence to non-existent places or knowledge of non-existent knowledge. Essentially, the monotheists ascribe their god the characteristic of omnipotence- accurately- because that vision possesses all possible powers (consistent with the description "almighty" - having the most or greatest powers not every conceivable power)... but armchair philosophers have equivocated that meaning of omnipotence with a phantom version ("creating the unliftable rock") which has never been applied to a mainstream religious deity. It's not a particularly clever or novel paradox either on which to base the deconstruction of deity considering theologians have wrestled with such trite problems for over a millennium without having their doctrine implode.
But to be concise about it, even if the paradox is true under some weird definition of the word omnipotence, there is no major deity who is described as having gibberish abilities - "to simultaneously exist and not exist" and equally nonsensical challenges. More extensive, nonetheless concise, deconstruction of the paradox can be found on wikipedia.
hmm, clearly the christian god is not omnipresent or he would have seen Cain murder Able instead of having to ask "where is your brother"
" hmm, clearly the christian god is not omnipresent or he would have seen Cain murder Able instead of having to ask "where is your brother" "I don't know whether the biblical god is described as omnipresent to begin with, but either way, a rhetorical or Socratic question wouldn't be proof to the contrary.
When you see your child spill something and walk away it would not be abnormal to ask, "Did you spill something?" despite knowing they did. The purpose of the question is not based on your lack of knowledge but in order to remind the child to clean their spill, spur a confession, or evaluate their honesty.
Maybe God was testing Cain to see if he will tell the truth. From what I here on TBN the Christian God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.
" Ok this might be a stupid question but is Thor Really a God? Because in order to be a god you have to be omnipotent, omniscient and be omnipresent and even thow Thor has the Odin Force and has the power of the power of the Asgardia Runes he is not. "I don't think power is the definition of godhood even by the Judaic standard. There is the rule "you shall have no other gods before you"... which acknowledges that there are other "gods" which would be impossible if power was what defined a god in that context. Instead, "god" means an object or being of worship... whether money, Baal, oneself, or what not... above the one giving the rule. Paul on Mars Hill talks about "the unknown god" in reference to the tradition of paying tribute to an unmarked alter as a catch all... so the concept of a lesser deity is not unfamiliar even using the omnipotence/Judaic context as your standard (of course, they also use the "one true" and "false god" distinction but that issue is self-resolving).
By that standard, is Thor worshiped in contemporary times? If he is, it is a small minority and he is a "small" god by that standard. Of course, by that standard you can't take away the historical fact he was worshiped as a god at some point.
I like the Chariots of the Gods respons the best because that makes the most sense and is the most logical.
" Is the mesure of a God the scope of his power or how he chooses to wield that power? "neither.
Webster's definition of God.
In Ancient Mythologies, gods were as flawed as the mortals. They were as evil, unjust, jealous, and possessed other imperfect qualities and personalities. This is why they were such popular characters and their stories so compelling (as well as the stories they were involved in).
I'm a bit of a Norse mythology nut, and the mythology of Thor and how it's presented in the modern day is what turned me onto comic books in the first place. That being said, Marvel Thor is one of the Aesir. The Aesir were the gods of Norse mythology, and often had powers and strength far greater than those of the children of Midgard. Does this make Thor a god? If you're a viking, then yes, definitely. If you don't worship him, than he counts as a mythological figure who has returned from an ancient, mythic realm to find that the children of Midgard no longer worship him. He still keeps his Asgardian powers, of course, so it could be argued either way. It's entirely based on perspective.
I choose to think of Thor as a god simply because it puts him in his own superior category of badassery, but I can totally see where others come from when they say he's more of an "alien" figure. He comes from a different realm, is no longer worshiped (for the most part), and isn't human. "God" with a lowercase "g" is simply a term that can be applied to such a man.
Chariots of the Gods? Unsolved Mysteries of the Past is a book written in 1968 by Erich von Daniken. It involves the hypothesis that the technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by space travelers who were welcomed as gods.
As far as I'm concerned all gods are mythical until proven otherwise. Humans decide what attributes they want to attribute to these gods. The Norsemen decided that their gods were going have certain jobs and powers and characteristics. I don't know if anyone here has read Thor Disassembled but after reading that there is no doubt in my mind that the Thor represented in Marvel is intended to be the "god" Thor. I didn't see anything alien...just supernatural events. Fenris swallowing the sun, the odinforce personifying in the form of a child, Thor literally chopping at the strings of the Norns loom and Thor ripping out his eyes and literally dying, hanging himself on the tree, going to hel and resurrecting to attain omniscient. None of this is remotely alien-like in any way aliens have been presented in the Marvel Universe.
No spaceships.....no advanced tech......just supernatural spells and magic. Mythical god stuff.
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