New TMNT poster causes 9/11 controversy, removed.

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#1  Edited By Fallingcliffs

I'm really excited for this new movie, and was reading about it. Found this today. I don't know, do you think people have a point and it's too much like a 9/11 reminder with the date in bad taste or are people just too sensitive? Paramount posted it on twitter but removed apparently. This is the release date in Australia btw(not USA, which opens Aug 8th)

http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/07/29/tmnt-poster-911-controversy/

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... *Sigh*

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#3 the_stegman  Moderator

... *Sigh*

This. I heard the exact same thing about MOS having "9/11 imagery" come on man.

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Saw this the other day. I believe my thought was "Woooooops! >_>"

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#5  Edited By JakeN7

@the_stegman: It shows a skyscraper being impacted by an explosion with the date "September 11" written on it...

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Never forget...

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People see what they want to see.

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MetH tHinks it was tHe date tHat made it so bad. THen again people are sensitive and in MetH's eyes tHey Have every rigHt to be sensitive.

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@eisenfauste: "Yeah, I don't see the 9/11 imagery at all"

- A blind person

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This is actually really funny.

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People see what they want to see.

I'd really like to say this. But OTOH you can't really fault them when "9/11" happens to be in the tweet, besides a blown-up building picture..

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I don't see the problem. Are artists forever forbidden from depicting a large building exploding because of 9/11? From my Pperspective, people don't usually get upset when slavery or the holocaust are depicted in fiction so I don't really get why 9/11 is forbidden ground.

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This is actually really funny.

I laughed to, its a horrible thing that happened, but the TMNT and all, its funny.

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@dragonborn_ct: And September 11 is directly written on said poster...

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#15  Edited By JakeN7

@pperspectiveandreality: Because September 11 is written on the damn poster. I don't see how that's so hard to understand. I also don't think it's unreasonable for people to ask for one day where the media doesn't post pictures of exploding friggin' skyscrapers.

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@eisenfauste said:

People see what they want to see.

I'd really like to say this. But OTOH you can't really fault them when "9/11" happens to be in the tweet, besides a blown-up building picture..

Agreed. It was a case of unfortunate marketing with the wrong type of poster on the wrong date. An accident on Paramount's part but still one that their PR department should have checked through before publishing.

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@jaken7:

Calm down. I didn't see that. No need to be so hostile.

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#18 the_stegman  Moderator

@jaken7: Oh, didn't see the date...yeah, that's pretty bad, and I understand why it was taken down.

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So what - one number make teenage mutant ninja turtles into teenage mutant ninja terrorists, eh?

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@pperspectiveandreality: Everything after the first sentence in my reply is meant in a more general sense, as you were just the latest in a long line of people saying the exact same thing.

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@rubear: No, it just makes for an insensitive poster.

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Ugh political correctness...

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@the_stegman: I'd imagine some poor schmuck in marketing has had a really bad week.

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@jaken7:

I just read the title and looked at the picture then posted. I should have read but I didn't. I see the problem with having that date associated with that picture though. If it wasn't that date or even that month I'd stand by what I said.

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I don't see the problem. At all. People can have exploding skyscrapers all they want. Even if it is 9/11, they aren't making fun of it. Its just a poster, how could it offend anyone?

Damn now just mentioning 9/11 is a crime.

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@jaken7: it goes overboard sometimes in my opinion, this as an example.

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@allstarsuperman said:

@smashbrawler said:

This is actually really funny.

I laughed to, its a horrible thing that happened, but the TMNT and all, its funny.

Yeah, it's the idea of the TMNT as terrorists that cracks me up. It's so absurd it's hilarious.

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I actually remember when True Lies 2 was supposed to come out it involved buildings and planes or something similar, but I believe that was around or shortly after 9/11 so they canned it entirely.

I do wonder though if the date had been different, you guys think it still would have been this controversial? That date though, as some others said the marketing on that date the guy lol perhaps he was drunk or something, I do wonder if he still has a job. Things like this can kind of get you fired these days.

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@jaken7: noun

the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

Omitting the poster to prevent from offending a particular group (aka us).

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@jayc1324: So since they aren't making fun of 9/11, then the poster isn't insensitive or offensive? So you'd be OK with a poster promoting the next Transformers movie to just be a giant picture of a plane flying into the twin towers? I mean, it's not making fun of it, just referencing it.

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Took me a while to figure out the problem.

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#37  Edited By JakeN7

@cable_extreme: I don't think there's anything extreme about realizing a poster depicting an exploding skyscraper with the words "September 11" written on it is insensitive and then deciding to take it down.

Seems pretty reasonable to me.

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@jaken7: exactly. Its a part of our history, no reason to run from it. If they wanna reference it, they can. Its similar to politicians avoiding mentioning slavery. You're not making fun of it, its OK to mention.

Not for transformers because that's not what the movie is about. But I don't see what's wrong with depicting 9/11. There have been rape, terrorist , torture, holocaust and slavery movies, yet we are scared to even mention 9/11 on a poster.

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If I saw someone crying about this being offensive, I would smack the beret off their head, break their glasses that have no lenses, and spit in their soy latte.

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@jaken7: that transformer poster would literally just be a picture of 9/11 if that's all that's on it.

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@jaken7: I think it is overboard, you are ignoring the fact that there are ninja turtles jumping from the building, and it is a single building. It is over the top, political correctness as far as I am concerned.

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#43  Edited By JakeN7

@jayc1324: You realize it wasn't their intention to reference it, yes?

Yes there are movies that have dealt with those issues. There have also been movies about 9/11. What you're missing is the context. Even if it WAS a documentary about 9/11, you don't show a picture of bodies jumping off of an exploding skyscraper with the words September 11 on it. Why is it so hard to grasp that that is indeed insensitive?

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It is funny that if the explosion wasn't there or the date wasn't September 11th. Nobody would batter an eye lid.

I think people have overreacted to this. It has nothing to do with 9/11 they are jumping from a building that has an explosion on it.

Though people will choose to view it as something offensive. Whatever.

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@jaken7: because its not. Having the words September 11 is not insensitive. Its just a representation of what happened that day. Didn't know a date could be so offensive. It comes every year.

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@jaken7: you are making it and turning it into something it is isn't with word play. Saying bodies jumping off and exploding skyscraper. What makes you think it is a sky scraper? It looks simply like a building, and these "bodies" are animated ninja turtles.

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@cable_extreme: Thanks for mentioning that. Yeah, bodies jumping off of said exploding building makes it even worse considering all the men and women who resorted to that when they were stuck in those towers.

This has nothing to do with political correctness. This has to do with being decent f***ing human beings.

Go take your "le sigh. Omg. This country and its political correctness" attitude to a thread about a Spanish teacher being fired for saying negro (the color black in Spanish) or something. It isn't needed here.

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#48  Edited By JakeN7

@cable_extreme: -_- Yeah, it's a two story office building. FFS.

So what? They are beings jumping from a tower. The movie is TMNT, it would be weird if they weren't turtles. That doesn't make it less insensitive.

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#49  Edited By Erik
@jaken7 said:

@jayc1324: So since they aren't making fun of 9/11, then the poster isn't insensitive or offensive? So you'd be OK with a poster promoting the next Transformers movie to just be a giant picture of a plane flying into the twin towers? I mean, it's not making fun of it, just referencing it.

If this poster was the turtles leaping out of the twin towers as it crumbled beneath it's own weight, that would be different. Then it would indeed be referencing the attack. But some generic building? Did you know that there has been buildings that have been attacked before 9/11? There has been buildings bombed after 9/11 too. When a movie depicts some generic war scene, I don't crap my pants because WWII happened.

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#50  Edited By Dragonborn_CT

Is this really worth making a big deal out of?