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#151  Edited By dragonrampage

@poeticwarrior: I am doing research to give you a good readable objection so you will have to wait for a while I will show were k get the quotes and information ok

It was also a issue of the the states rights sadly , Abraham London was wrong to say that the south could not leave there were no laws about that at the time and the north needed the south to survive and make a larger proffet off of them. America was made a country in 1776 and the civil war was in1861 to 1865 . Lincoln's speech has four score and seven years ago our forefather broutht onthis conent a new nation meaning twenty times four so eighty then add seven so it happened 87 years later.

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Talking from a non USA perspective and other's opinion mixed with my own that are not necessarily based on facts, it does more harm than good. Prostitution is associated with terms like slavery and abuse. If you can just trade sex and drugs for money in supermarkets it would omit any barrier that keeps you from being open to all the risk factors associated with these. It may result in kids ending up without knowledge of their parents and nobody to take care of them, increasing the potential of them being involved into criminal activities in the future. There is also the notion that sex is a form of intimacy and it's dehumanizing to treat it like a product; it is earned when you prove to have certain qualifications, like being able to take care of the child. Everyone has a body and if you can earn money just by selling it many would take it as a legitimate job and refuse to be more productive members of the society. It's not necessarily a crying need for the majority and as long as there is no huge sudden uproar for it what's illegal can stay illegal.

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#153  Edited By BappyRonChantin

I'm not even sure why I touched this though. Things like prostitution and naked human body gross me out anyway! Allah save us all!

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Talking from a non USA perspective and other's opinion mixed with my own that are not necessarily based on facts, it does more harm than good. Prostitution is associated with terms like slavery and abuse. If you can just trade sex and drugs for money in supermarkets it would omit any barrier that keeps you from being open to all the risk factors associated with these. It may result in kids ending up without knowledge of their parents and nobody to take care of them, increasing the potential of them being involved into criminal activities in the future. There is also the notion that sex is a form of intimacy and it's dehumanizing to treat it like a product; it is earned when you prove to have certain qualifications, like being able to take care of the child. Everyone has a body and if you can earn money just by selling it many would take it as a legitimate job and refuse to be more productive members of the society. It's not necessarily a crying need for the majority and as long as there is no huge sudden uproar for it what's illegal can stay illegal.

Most of those reasons could be used for porn, and it's legal. If prostitution is illegal, then porn should be illegal as well based on those reasoning.

Define productive, there are servicing jobs like Stripper, masseur, or the likes that provide momentary relaxation for the customers they give their service to.

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#155  Edited By kyrees

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@kyrees: well world is rotting soon rotten apple will fall and all of my points are correct like parent selling there kids, rich buying young girls as there sex slave, women sell their body for sandwich and I can even post the article

(parent selling there kids)

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2013/12/world/cambodia-child-sex-trade/

(rich buying young girls as there sex slave)

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/602627/Islamic-State-ISIS-Yazidi-Sex-Slave-Jinan-Western-Terror-Bidder-Buyer-Abou-Anas-Abou-Omar

(women sell their body for sandwich)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/greek-women-forced-prostitution-the-6921080

so that proves the point that half the world has become desolate wasteland because of legal prostitution ? yeah that's really being in a bubble here.

you can post all the article about the dregs of humanity here but you can't even point to me how this world still remains active despite its failings.

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#156  Edited By BappyRonChantin

@poeticwarrior if you read my comment again you can see I'm talking from a non USA perspective right? As far as I'm concerned porn and stripping are not legal where I live.

By being "more" productive I mean your work needs more hardwork and has some level of sigficance to the common goal everyone in the society is collectively working for- surviving. Yeah, we consider entertainers entertaining us productive, but most popular forms of entertainment require hardwork and talent, unlike prostitution which can be done by anyone. I'm simply not seeing if everyone takes prostitution as a job we are gonna survive for long.

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@poeticwarrior if you read my comment again you can see I'm talking from a non USA perspective right? As far as I'm concerned porn and stripping are not legal where I live.

By being "more" productive I mean your work needs more hardwork and is significant to the common goal everyone in the society is collectively working for- surviving. Yeah, we consider entertainers entertaining us productive, but most popular forms of entertainment require hardwork and talent, unlike prostitution which can be done by anyone. I'm simply not seeing if everyone takes prostitution as a job we are gonna survive for long.

Isn't entertainment just mean that you bring satisfaction for the people we give our service to? As long as the people who pay for it receive satisfaction and relief, I don't see how masseur or a stripper contribute anything significant either except to the person they're doing it to. Not everyone will take up prostitution, it's just a supply and demand, more or less people will do it depending on the available need, just as not everyone will or can become an actor or a stripper or a masseur, just because those jobs are available.

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Just what we need a culture that allows sluts to make a living.

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#159  Edited By poeticwarrior

@dragonrampage said:

Just what we need a culture that allows sluts to make a living.

America produces the most porn in the world. "Sluts" are already making a living everywhere with it.

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We need to stop sluttisum now!!

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We need to stop sluttisum now!!

I doubt we can. Porn created a big source of income for the U.S., it's a billion dollar industry.

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@poeticwarrior: First off, I didn't say stripping is productive. Secondly, improve your reading comprehension. Popular forms of entertainment such as music and movies require hardwork, unlike something as easy as prostitution which is can be done by anyone. When a cheap way to earn money such as this is legalized more people are gonna take it as their legitimate job, decreasing the number of productive members of the society as a result. Don't be so quick to reply if you keep missing my point like this.

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#164  Edited By poeticwarrior

@BappyRonChantin said:

@poeticwarrior: First off, I didn't say stripping is productive. Secondly, improve your reading comprehension. Popular forms of entertainment such as music and movies require hardwork, unlike something as easy as prostitution which is can be done by anyone. When a cheap way to earn money such as this is legalized more people are gonna take it as their legitimate job, decreasing the number of productive members of the society as a result. Don't be so quick to reply if you keep missing my point like this.

Because every other countries where it legalized, everyone is a prostitute there. I have already talked about your point. I told you that it's supply and demand. It's impossible for everyone to become a prostitute, those with pretty face, with good body would likely be more successful. Porn is also an easy job, but you don't see everyone doing porn. Show me examples of where everyone become prostitutes instead of working "legitimate" jobs instead of using scare tactics.

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@poeticwarrior Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I didn't say everyone is gonna turn into prostitudes, just more people will take it or be willing to take it as their job. Yeah, there are countries that have legalized prostitution but number of people involved with it is low because it's largely frowned upon in most of them.

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@poeticwarrior Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I didn't say everyone is gonna turn into prostitudes, just more people will take it or be willing to take it as their job. Yeah, there are countries that have legalized prostitution but number of people involved with it is low because it's largely frowned upon in most of them.

I see writing isn't your strong suit, is it?

"I'm simply not seeing if everyone takes prostitution as a job we are gonna survive for long."

Largely frown upon, huh? Many of the European countries are very liberal when it comes to sex, even more so than America, those countries have legal prostitution as well. Do you even do your research or are you just making stuffs up as you go? Plus, I don't see the difference between this and porn. Are everyone doing porn now instead of working legitimate jobs?

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#167  Edited By BappyRonChantin

@poeticwarrior: You do realize saying "if" everyone turns into prostitutes is not the same as saying it is "gonna turn" everyone into prostitutes right? What I was trying to point out are possible implications of legalizing prostitution, not necessarily what it will literally result in. Point you got- none.

Yeah, many of the European countries are very liberal when it comes to sex, but being liberal to sex is not the same as being liberal to prostitution. Give me statistics about large majority of people being completely fine about prostitution in Europe if you can. If they were, they would be advocating prostitution as a legitimate job. Are they? Not from my knowledge. Are they raising their kids to take it as a profession? Neither. Why? It could be because of the reasons I stated above. I did miss to add the word "probably" in my sentence though, I'll give you that.

You are probably mistaking me for someone who is totally against legalizing prostitution, I'm not. Honestly I mostly don't care. The question you asked why prostitution is illegal, and I tried to point out why. I'm not suggesting they are completely valid and I did say my reasoning were mixed with other's opinion that are not necessarily based on facts.

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Because the government is afraid they can't effectively tax it.

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#169  Edited By poeticwarrior

@BappyRonChantin: And I was just explained that the point you got is zero because that possibility is zero as well. You use a outrageous possibility, and I was just pointing out why that is because it couldn't happen.

Where did I say that majority of people being fine with prostitution? I said they're open about sex, more than America. You don't tell your kid to become a janitor, a stripper, or a burger flipper when you grow up either. Some profession exists regardless of what someone likes or dislikes.

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Outdated cultural beliefs that women cannot have sex for any other purpose aside from procreation. Like drug usage, prostitution should be made legal and thoroughly regulated.

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#172  Edited By Dextersinister1

@poeticwarrior: The real reason is that people view the concept of women sleeping with such a huge number of men disgusting.

-Some will say danger, BS, more dangerous jobs than working in a brothel.

-some will say tax, BS, harder to tax a taxi driver.

We have a distaste for women that sleep with many men, this isn't based on reason, it's an instinctual thing.

Take the comment from the above poster

this sad topic one more thing do you have girlfriend may be not is this is the reason you want prostitution so badly

He's attempting to use the male equivalent to shame you which is to mock a man for possibly not having enough sex.

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@poeticwarrior: The real reason is that people view the concept of women sleeping with such a huge number of men disgusting.

-Some will say danger, BS, more dangerous jobs than working in a brothel.

-some will say tax, BS, harder to tax a taxi driver.

We have a distaste for women that sleep with many men, this isn't based on reason, it's an instinctual thing.

Take the comment from the above poster

this sad topic one more thing do you have girlfriend may be not is this is the reason you want prostitution so badly

He's attempting to use the male equivalent to shame you which is to mock a man for possibly not having enough sex.

It's so funny though because there are many members in here that are females or gay, and I know some of them. He uses the exact same attack against me, and as I pointed out. There is no reason I need to use it. He insults others and think that the only people who support prostitution must be lonely guys. I don't see why the against people can't discuss this in a mature manner instead of attacking others. It seems more like because the issue goes against their moral values which may make it a personal thing for them.

I agree, making it legal is no difference than porn, it's basically the same industry where the workers are required to be tested and condom usage. It's actually more dangerous without regulation because it still happens in a large amount everyday. Many jobs like masseur, stripper, driver, etc are very hard to tax as well. I don't see why prostitution becomes a problem, a lot of these jobs are paid by cash as well, regardless of whether the customers want to hide it or not. Illegal underage prostitution would still happen whether prostitution is legal or not since it's an underground operation, just because prostitution becomes legal doesn't mean underage prostitution will become legal and people will do it in the open. most people will become prostitution is also pretty ridiculous since there are many countries with prostitution and they don't have a problem with people choosing prostitution over becoming a doctor or something. Also, America has a big porn industry, and not everyone doing porn. I still haven't seen any strong argument for why it should be illegal yet.

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@poeticwarrior:hey there could also be other reasons that you want to make prostitution legal like you sell girls or you are prostitute and can't find the job of prostitution or you are too poor so you want to start the new business of kidnaping and selling of girls or you are just to lazy to work so you want to sell your body and earn easy money, even if you are man because of legal law you can just become gay to sell your body’s . hey mods don't delete this, you people said I can use words like prostitute, I am not insulting him or her or herhim I am just providing the reason

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#175  Edited By dragonrampage

Its evil same as pornography.

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instead of this topic there should have been the topic of why gay male don't deserve to live

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#177  Edited By poeticwarrior

@superproherohunter said:

@poeticwarrior:hey there could also be other reasons that you want to make prostitution legal like you sell girls or you are prostitute and can't find the job of prostitution or you are too poor so you want to start the new business of kidnaping and selling of girls or you are just to lazy to work so you want to sell your body and earn easy money, even if you are man because of legal law you can just become gay to sell your body’s . hey mods don't delete this, you people said I can use words like prostitute, I am not insulting him or her or herhim I am just providing the reason

Basically, you think that there must be some reasons why people want this to be legal to benefit them, not because they have no problem with it? People want like gay marriage to be legal because they all want to be gay instead of because they see no problem with it?

You're not insulting? But insinuating me and other people are prostitutes, or lazy, or wanting to kidnapping people to sell? You go from insulting people from calling them sad and lonely guys who want to pay for prostitutes to this. That is not really a discussion, your entire post is basically just to attack people. Now you say gay men deserve to die.

"instead of this topic there should have been the topic of why gay male don't deserve to live"

@sc@jashro44

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instead of this topic there should have been the topic of why gay male don't deserve to live

Unacceptable comment. Stay of topic.

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#180  Edited By poeticwarrior

@superproherohunter said:

@poeticwarrior:so what is wrong with that topic, nothing is wrong or right so killing gay men how that is wrong, you can have different views for prostitution but why can't I have different views for gay mans, you can kill the bugs or spider without thinking because you are scared from them why can’t I do the same thing . In my eyes human being only do things which benefit them like brushing your teeth

Because one is to cause direct harm to a group while the others are between consenting adults doing their business. If you want to make that topic, go ahead, no one stopping you, or are you just gonna say it for the hell of it? I doubt you would either ways.

I do love you choose specifically gay male though, lesbians are ok, huh?

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#182  Edited By poeticwarrior

@superproherohunter said:

@wildvine:so what is wrong or what is right if prostitution can be wright then how i am wrong, killing animals or plant for food is wright, killing humans in war or for punishment is right then why I am wrong. when I disgust gay and they are scary for me then why I am wrong

Calling gay disgusting, I seriously don't know what's your problem. What consenting adults do is their business. Why do you feel the need to hate and using words like disgusting to describe them and even wanting them killed. I still love how you exclude lesbians and only gay men that need to die.

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Idk but it shouldn't be

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For the same reason marijuana is illegal.

Some laws are stupid.

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@superproherohunter: We have rules about discriminating against people based on race, religion, or sexual preference. You don't have to accept gay people or like gay people. But saying things just to offend people will get you banned. Go read the site rule before you post again.

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@kyrees: This topic is annoying, I had better post which covered everything but got deleted by site maintenance because I got wild little bit and I really don't want to debate about this sad topic one more thing do you have girlfriend may be not is this is the reason you want prostitution so badly

sad and annoying topic but you still keep answering here ? i wonder why someone like you keeps posting on a topic that the whole world has so much varying reactions to that there is no correct answer to it.

you assume too much on the people you argue with to a point that you raise faulty notions against them. i suppose i have done the same but i have never even hinted on my relationship status here unlike you on the other hand who predicted apocalypse when in reality the whole word still goes on.

for the record, i have a wife and no, i don't need to find hookers to pleasure myself.

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Conservatives.

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It probably should be legal

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@dngn4774 said:

Outdated cultural beliefs that women cannot have sex for any other purpose aside from procreation. Like drug usage, prostitution should be made legal and thoroughly regulated.

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Everyone on the first page of this thread is nothing but a complete idiot, except depinhon.

This tone already destroys most of your credibility. It's hard to take anyone seriously when they disrespect anyone who offers alternative arguments.

''Everyone should do what they want with their bodies.'' Really you moron ? You would like to live in a community where when you take your child to the park, you have to go trough the streets full of naked women selling themselves and fucking in the middle of the street, because, why not it's legal.

Your oversimplifying the Libertarian agrument. You can do what ever you want to yourself or others so long as you're not harming anyone. Exposing yourself or performing sexual acts in front of an unwilling audience is harm, which is why it is deemed illegal almost all public property and countries with legalized prostitution ban streetwalking (soliciting sex in public).

Really you morons, you'd like for a women to sell themselves on the street to every hobo and nasty trucker that haven't took a bath in the past 10 years and go unpunished, because it's legal ?

If they are paying customers and both parties are consenting adults, yeah. This is the smallest exaggeration you've made in your entire post, which is really quite telling.

If prostitution is to become legal, it would lead to a significant crime increase, and many criminals will abuse and exploit the law that way to make a profit off prostitution.

Legalized prostitution actually decreases crime. The sex workers are safer in brothels, where hired security teams can remove hostile and or abusive customers, as opposed to the status quo in which the worker is always at risk. It also decreases STD's for both consumers and sex workers. Furthermore, "Pimps" or "Madames" lose most of their bargaining power since the legalization promotes a more agency based economy, meaning the most attractive sex workers are drawn to whichever company will pay them the most for exclusivity.

l am disgusted by the shit here, morons, go and make a hole in your head with magnum.44 bullet.

I'm sorry that you've encountered opinions that don't match your own. It's a big world, so that's gonna happen quite often. If you can't handle that, go take your own advice.

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#192  Edited By TheKinfing

Because people like it?

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@dngn4774 said:

Outdated cultural beliefs that women cannot have sex for any other purpose aside from procreation. Like drug usage, prostitution should be made legal and thoroughly regulated.

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Why is it illegal, you ask? Because of people with obsolete ways of thinking. As long as prostitution is heavily regulated, I see nothing wrong with it.

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They don't want to legalize it because it's easier for politicians to hide that they did it with one. DUNDUNDUNDUDNUDNUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUN