Why do we have Disney Animation and Pixar?

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I been researching this but not understanding the why. Pixar was bought out and is officially Diseny for all intents and purposes. So why the hell is there Disney Animation studios competing with... Well, themselves?! Disney did not disband or merge them? Why not?

Thanks to the smart ones. Just been one of those random questions gnawing at me.

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Cuz Batman said so

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#3  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

Not sure I get what you mean; how are they competing? They're just two separate studios owned by Disney, like Lucasfilm and Marvel.

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They aren't competing if they're owned by the same company.

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They aren't competing if they're owned by the same company.

This.

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#6  Edited By jumpstart55
  • Because their still separate companies,(I.e Subsidiaries) under one main company the Walt Disney Corporation...
  • Disney and Pixars relationship goes back to the first Toy Story film..Where Walt Disney would produce,finance and distribute Pixar's films..Since Pixar was a new company and lacked the money and power it used Disney to produce its films..
  • And the only reason Disney even bought Pixar is becuase that move made perfect sense from a business prospective, Disney was already long term panthers with Piaxars, And struggling quite a bit in their Animation studio at that time(Remember alot of their films after Tarzan were box office flops and critical disasters)so why not buy Pixar it benefits both companies..And then once Bob Iger become the ceo of Disney he decided to give Walt Disney Animation a rehaul and started moving the animation studio towards the so called second resonance (the era that were currently in)..With Bolt,Frozen, Tangled, Princess and The Frog, Wreck it Ralph,Zootopia etc... And it was at that point that Disney become a duel threat in terms of Animation..With Pixar and the Rejuvenated Disney Animation studio.
  • Remember Disney Animation and Pixar have an entirely different staff and are run and operated in completely different ways...The only thing they have in common is the Walt Disney logo..Pixar is run in a very unique unorthodox method, more in line with a silicon valley tech company then a traditional animation studio..Where they just sit around and boucne ideas off each other and keep reworking their scripts and shots until that magic is there..Whereas Walt DIsney ANimation studios is run like your average Animation studio just with the Disney Brand attached to it, so as such they probably pull in the best talent whereas most studios wouldnt pull in nearly as much talent..So the biggest difference is that Pixar is run in laxed,free spirit, environment conducive for optimum creativity, free from the most part of studio executive tamperment(Just google John Lasseter the cco of Pixar..And watch his interviews and then you'll get a feel for how the companies run.
  • Whereas Walt Disney Animation is probably run in a much stricter, environment, where their constantly forced to answer to the big studio executives..So as such their stories would be a lot more formulaic and box office safe,Think the MCU of Animation studios...But Frozen,Wreck it Ralph and Zootopia are certainly breaking their usual formulaic mold.
  • And the main reason for the continued usage of Disney Animation is becuase of the legacy and cultural significance of those films..Remember Aladdin, Cinderella, Jungle Book,Peter Pan,101 Dalmatians, Lion King,Little Mermaid, Mulan,Sleeping Beauty,Snow White, Frozen,Princess and The Frog,Zootopia,, and Tangled(Aswell as many more films) were all produced from Walt Disney Animation Studios.
  • So really to completely answer your question:its just keeping up with the legendary tradition of classic Disney Animated Films..And continuing that scared legacy..While at the same time giving the world something new and subversive in the way of Pixar films.
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@jumpstart55: I see, I still don't get why not merge the two under one banner, as you said, and my own research says that Disney Animation gave us films like Wreck it Ralph and Zootopia becuasenthey are running there studio more like Pixar. I just don't see why not merge them instead sinking money or investments in two studios doing the same job.

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#8 the_stegman  Moderator

To me. Pixar is still the gold standard for animation, Disney films are getting better with Zootopia, but Pixar is GOAT.

I'm ok with them being separate.

Hopefully WAG can get up and running and compete.

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#9  Edited By jumpstart55

@sirfizzwhizz said:

@jumpstart55: I see, I still don't get why not merge the two under one banner, as you said, and my own research says that Disney Animation gave us films like Wreck it Ralph and Zootopia becuasenthey are running there studio more like Pixar. I just don't see why not merge them instead sinking money or investments in two studios doing the same job.

  • But their not running Walt Disney Animation Studio anything like Paxar..Walt Disney Animation studios is run more like the MCU then Pixar..But what your starting to see is Pixar's immensely creative storytelling methods take an influence over Walt Disney Studios.
  • Pixar still is in a class of its own in the way they make their films.(Mainly in terms of The creative process,brainstorming and creative environment)
  • But your right and i agree once the two studios start running their animation studios exactly the same, is the day ill agree on a merger..But that's hardly the case at the moment.
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Why would they merge them? Pixar does things their way and Disney does things under their own way. Wouldn't make much sense. Same with Marvel and Lucasfilm and ESPN and all the other shit Disney owns.

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@jumpstart55: I see, I still don't get why not merge the two under one banner, as you said, and my own research says that Disney Animation gave us films like Wreck it Ralph and Zootopia becuasenthey are running there studio more like Pixar. I just don't see why not merge them instead sinking money or investments in two studios doing the same job.

The answer is as follow. Disney was the leader in drawn animation movies. Pixar was a promissing new technology 3d animation movies company. So to be leader on all domain, Disney tried to bye Pixar. But you don't give money and hop you're mine. No ! You sign a contract that can officialise a merge or some other relationship. That is what Pixar forced Disney to sign. Pixar wanted to keep its own team and own artistic direction. And Disney had a big studio that it couldn't get rid off. Since they were doing different kind of movies, they were complementary. But Disney animation started to have some commercial flops and turned to 3D animation. So by contract Disney and Pixar can't merge. And remember that Disney animation occationnaly still produces drawn movies. The last one being The princess and the Frog.

Also keep in mind that Pixar isn't only a movie studio, but it is also a sofware company. Pixar's success comes also from their animation software: "renderman".

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It's not like that.

Think of two factories both working for the same company. Both factories obviously make different but similar products, and both are held accountable to the same CEO. Merging the two factories would be unnecessary, and would probably get in the way of production. That's sort of like how this works; Disney Animation makes movies, and Pixar makes movies, they just make them in their own ways, but still report back to Bob Eigher, the CEO of Disney. Merging them would essentially force one of them (most likely Pixar) to stop making movies in their unique style and start making it in Disney Animation's, and that would be bad for Pixar.

And no, Disney is not competing with itself. Pixar doesn't draw any money away from Disney movies, and even if they did, why would that be a problem; Disney still makes all the money. Think about the two factories again; the goods in factory A don't draw money away from those made in factory B, so it works out.

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