Let's say west europe decided to go on another crusade vs Islam,but this time there not doing it to claim land for christianity but they just want to completly wipe islam out could they do it? would you be mad or happy if they did it what's your thought's?
What would be your thought's on a another west europe crusade vs islam?
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Islamic faith can't be wiped out through force without also destroying the individual who is subject to it. Only an individual's intellect will ensure the end of his faith (selfish rather than scientific, evidence-based, assumption-austere belief) while preserving the individual. Reason is anathema to religion because the claims religions do not withstand scrutiny, due to the lack of positive evidence supporting them.
The only way to annihilate militant religion is to annihilate methods of interpreting the world apart from reason whereby a feeling of certainty is substituted for correctness as the standard for...well, correctness ("I believe this is true, therefore I will treat it as true even if it's not a valid deduction nor induction from true premises").
So basically NATO + Russia team up?
It'll be bloody, horrific, and downright awful ... I mean ... morality aside, yeah, I could see combined forces of NATO + Russia doing it. It would be bad, but from a purely militaristic perspective, they could, but it would take a while.
The effects of such a war would be devastating to everyone in one way or another, and completely unneeded.
Anyone who thinks another crusade would be a good thing is a monster of a human being,
Not denying the plausibility that there is a Jihad underway presently but a genuine modern crusade is not the answer. The middle east would be a great glass theme park by the end of the week, I'd rather we not endorse a real life Imperium of Man or modern Pax Romanum, k? Thanks.
I would die from severe facepalming if the crossfire doesn't get me (among many other innocent civilians) first.
I would say Israel is behind it.
The crusades were never about claiming lands for Christianity - It was a series of reactionary campaigns (Took about 800 years to react, mind) against the spread of the Islamic caliphate - The religious aspect was there to convince the fighters of the divine nature of it all
Islam by nature of the Qu'ran will spread from the Dar al-Islam (house of Islam or believers) across the Dar al-Harb (house of war or the west) until Al Nasr (victory) & the world is under Sharia, then it will be divided into the previously mentioned Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-Kufr (non believers)
Since the final chapter of the Qu'ran is about the victory, preserving the enmity between believers & none believers and how the none believers should be punished; taken with fact that the Qu'ran is to be read under abrogation (later chapters cancel out earlier chapters through additional revelation) then it is easy to see why Jihad is waged constantly
To paraphrase Prime Minister William Gladstone addressing parliament 'as long as there is this book; there will never be peace'
Does that make Spain the ballsack of Europe?
There are 1.7 billion followers of Islam worldwide......good luck. Plus, Europe has let millions of refugees who are followers of Islam into their countries. It doesn't look good.
Also, why?
I wouldn't support it if it was against the Islam. But I would support it against religious brutality and crime. Not all muslims are bad, same as Christians, Hindus, whatever
No need for war, the so called "crusade" can be done through catechism and deportation. If they can't accept Western culture and laws, rapefugees should go back to their countries.
Islam is on the verge of change?
Highly doubtful - the Qu'ran is perceived as the final revelation from god, it cannot be reformed. Saying that the middle east is to become more secular is just not the case, Islamic culture is the culture of the Muslim majority countries, from doctrine to practice to law - this will not change without heavy outside influence
Would like to see Trumps Hitler speech or where he is repeating his words - can you post them, they shouldn't be too hard to find, if they are plentiful
I don't think they need China's help, they've already enlisted the aid of one communist leader in the form of Barry Soetoro
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/24/6-things-obama-doesnt-want-know-isis/
It'd be terrible i imagine it would begin with a nuking of the middle east then the armies would roll in to pick off those that remained. This would be a depressing scenario....
That's how it would be done; it would just be a morality question of why the West committed such a brutal genocide. A Crusade would necessarily need to be avenging Christians from Islamic atrocities.
Islam is on the verge of change?
Highly doubtful - the Qu'ran is perceived as the final revelation from god, it cannot be reformed. Saying that the middle east is to become more secular is just not the case, Islamic culture is the culture of the Muslim majority countries, from doctrine to practice to law - this will not change without heavy outside influence
Would like to see Trumps Hitler speech or where he is repeating his words - can you post them, they shouldn't be too hard to find, if they are plentiful
I don't think they need China's help, they've already enlisted the aid of one communist leader in the form of Barry Soetoro
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/24/6-things-obama-doesnt-want-know-isis/
The Bible end time predicts the end of Islam in both Revelation and Daniel; well, it doesn't specifically say the end of Islam, it just implies it; there is supposed to be a war involving the Euphrates block of people; that's actually over there near Syria and Iraq; after a violent, bloody clash (perhaps with China and/or Russia trying to come to the defense of Muslims in the Middle East), Islam is never mentioned again, Bible prediction shifts to the Anti-Christ making a major play against the Jews, God intervening on behalf of the Jews, to first create a new Exodus style escape for the Jews, and, than, the final Battle of Armageddon, where Jesus comes it at the most desperate of time to miraculously win a hopeless battle for the side of good/light.
Anyone who thinks another crusade would be a good thing is a monster of a human being,
No, just block islam from spreading
Easier said than done
So basically you want the Western world to commit a world spanning genocide of 1.4 billion people?
This is point where Hitler, Stalin, Ghengis and Kubla Khan will take you to the side and have a little talk about restraint.
Khabib solos
Khabib vs Bear 2.
It'd be terrible i imagine it would begin with a nuking of the middle east then the armies would roll in to pick off those that remained. This would be a depressing scenario....
That's how it would be done; it would just be a morality question of why the West committed such a brutal genocide. A Crusade would necessarily need to be avenging Christians from Islamic atrocities.
judging by the fact that they kill Christians for fun, I think a crusade can be morally accepted by the general Christian public. The problem is that most of the world doesn't give a craps about the Christians in and more about being PC.
Backin 2000 maybe but now, no...
A no contest, muslims have already lost and Islam is already collapsing they just don't know it yet
I'd fight on the Islam side..
So you would fight for a lying, mass murdering pedophile prophet called Muhammed or Mohammed? and fight for a Moongod named al-Lah?
@fablecounty: Yup I would. Better than fighting on the White MAN side!!
Now, gtfoh with that Western sh!t!! I don't care for it!!! I don't listen to media whores!!! Or the West propaganda!!
Anyone who thinks another crusade would be a good thing is a monster of a human being.
Anyone who thinks another crusade would be a good thing is a monster of a human being.
Anyone who thinks another crusade would be a good thing is a monster of a human being.
I am non-interventionist , In general I am against war...but perhaps I agree with the statement 'If they can't accept Western culture and laws, rapefugees should go back to their countries. '
@fablecounty: Yup I would. Better than fighting on the White MAN side!!
Islam has murderer millions of people in many part of the world, thousands and hundreds of Arabs, Latinos, Indians, Thai, Philipino
...but if a dumbass like you want to make it a whiteman thing, go ahead
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