The term "political correctness" is a passive-aggressive excuse for expressing racist/bigoted tendencies

I myself am fed up of ridiculous instances of political correctness (Digital removal of all guns from Steven Spielberg films for instance), however I think people should stop slapping the "political correctness" label everywhere and examine the policies/speeches on a case-by-case basis. If you notice around, there's a lot of passive-aggressive right-wing kiddies posting stuff like "lol @ regressive left" and saying that attacking racist/bigotry speeches was simply "some tear-filled response from the politically correct SJWs". Stuff like that.

Yawn.

I guess its been universally accepted that racism and bigotry are negative qualities and there exists a segment of population who are still bigots but they had no way to express these tendencies except hide them under accusations of well-intended words/policies of being "politically correct" - passive aggressive eh?

Example: The fact remains that Donald Trump made inappropriate, insensitive speeches such as the Muslim ban bullshit. Or women should be punished for having abortions (lol).

What do you think?

I think I'm gonna like this thread.

Well, I hate PC, but I have noticed that a lot of the people that blindly throw that label at anything that they do not like without much rhyme/reason tend to be bigots themselves.

But a person is within their rights to have a stupid, bigoted opinion. They just shouldn't expect people to respect them after that point.

I don't know if this is accurate, but it almost seems as if you are saying that, while PC are sensitive and call everything racist, that a large portion of the other side seems to tolerate and defend racist ideas more than they should?

Bolded statement in your quote: That's what I am pointing out.

I know there are lots of these people outside of the internet, and within specifically these forum I know who are these bigoted posters who hide their racist/bigot tendencies behind the label "politically incorrect". I dare bet they won't have the balls to respond here lol.

This...this will be fun. And whilst I do not support Trump, the muslim ban was only on those entering the country, not the ones already in the country, and it was only a temporary one. And its not racist or bigoted to be cautious of the muslims from the midest, in fact the U.S can ban certain groups of people it deems dangerous or a threat. President Jimmy C did this during the iran hostage crisis. Anyways just my two cents, I dont hate anyone haha :)

I don't think Trump is bigoted, and I might even hesitantly argue that his speeches weren't bigoted. But they lack sensitivity and had offended people all over the world. I believe there are ways to implement that suggested policy of his without using his dumb tone of language that easily invite the idea that he is bigoted.

Cool.

Political correctness is stupid and wrong

Oh, okay.

Well in that case (in response to what I posted), I don't even think that all of the people that do that are bigoted, but it's just a trend that I've noticed. It makes it hard to have a discussion with someone when they throw labels at everything they don't like, regardless of which end of the political spectrum they are on.

Yep. I will add that it is tedious to actually filter out who is being bigoted and who is not when they are being "politically incorrect"

@depinhom: I don't think that the OP disagrees with that (in fact, I think that it was one of the first things he said, more or less), but what are your thoughts on the trend (if there even is one)?

@donatellorawks: Ah ok, I misunderstood what you said there

@incursion2: Trump and his camp want to punish poor refuges that is not their fault.

The US needs to stop fucking up countries.

We would not have these problems.

@sommie7890: Yeah the U.S Gov has messed quite a few places, but Language

Sometimes I agree with PC, but not in this case. But does this mean more censorship for films and etc?

Film is art and someone's vision shouldn't be ruined because of it. In some cases yes but removing guns seems pointless to me IMO.

I would call Trump a bigot because he either ignorantly or knowingly spreads false information about non-white persons, women, and other groups.

There is a point where it does not matter if you are ignorant or malicious--they both become just as dangerous as the other.

@cameron83: Well, to be honest, I don't understand it. I know what it is, I just don't get why it exists. Political correctness, in my opinion, infringes upon the first amendment. I mean, in a lot of schools, saying "Merry Christmas" is considered wrong. Instead, you're supposed to say, "Happy Holidays".

I mean, it's not like I'd say Merry Christmas to a Jewish kid, am I right?

No, it's not, political correctness is way liberals use to pretend to be morally superior, an act of self-congratulatory arrogance.

I hate people overly-obsessive with diversity and minorities representation, those changes in comic books and movies are biased, I'd love to see those so called progressives raging their asses off when an emblematic black or female character/icon was replaced for no reason with a white male (as if that ever were to happen).

Also, when people rely on buzzword words like "bigot", "racists", "misogynist" their arguments lose their value almost entirely.

Oh boy. This should be a fun read.

RyuBH

A lot of people do and just do not care.

I'm conflicted, I believe it's right in some cases and wrong in others.

The funny part is that I'm a horror fan.

Regarding film, times have changed so you can't get the same things in movies.

PC stands for P&$$^ crushing.

It's alright to be sensitive to other people's race, religion, etc. Just do not go overboard.

@phoeulnikx: Well that's got nothing to do with political correctness, that's just being rude, haha

and they shouldn't? Just like it's not a problem if someone Jewish says Happy Hanukkah to some Christian kid.

I find a problem with people who get offended or tried to make it out to be a bad thing. I also think it shows their intolerance.

As far as I am concerned, that is what "political correctness" is. Just an attempt to not be rude to other people.

Yes, it can sometimes go too far (like any positive thing), but I am suspicious of anyone who dismisses it out of hand.

@dernman: But when that does happen, Christians not only get offended, but can discriminate against non-Christians, because they are the majority. As an Agnostic, I have to be careful how I behave and speak, because a lot of people feel that this is a "Christian nation" and thus any deviation is cause to discriminate against me.

Yeah, it's pretty much getting worse over the years. There are a number of drawbacks to it. I think the reason why it sounds so popular is because it sounds good on paper, but in practice it's just terrible, as can be seen in a number of ways.

This. The gun thing in the OP is beyond me.

People are getting sick of being labeled as Nazi KKK GamerGater Chaos-loving bigots themselves for simply having a different opinion than the mob of harassers plaguing the internet masquerading as a progressive movement, that is why. They don't necessarily need to be a right-wing nutjob, even identifying as a liberal themselves that doesn't subscribe to their dogmas is enough to be labelled one.

Here is an example: Have you ever visited Everyday Feminism and seen the asinine garbage written there? If you attempt to criticize it you get called a bigot too. How would you feel about that?

All I know is that I love all types of people and the rest of the world should be the same. Life would be so incredibly calm and peaceful. Sigh...

racist, bigoted people do tend to get hostile towards the term, doesn't mean instances of it isn't annoying the hell out some of the most level headed people too

Political Correctness is a backwards tool that does nothing but to censor, silence and change anything that it doesn't agree with because of the poor hurt feelings of a few people. The conservatives used it back in the 90s and now the liberals and progressives are using it, but even worse.

I don't agree with people like Donald Trump throwing it around every chance they get and using it as an excuse to say stupid shit sometimes. But there are a couple times when he's used it correctly. That's the downside of criticizing PC. There will be people who cry PC for everything and to justify their stances.

But the overall picture still remains and PC is terrible. I'd rather people be using it to justify their bigoted talk and stances, than the other extreme. Which is to pander to anyone with hurt feelings and then censor, change or silence whatever it is that offended them. The point is to try to stay in the middle and practice good judgement, or else you'll just end up at either extreme.

Btw, I didn't even know that the walkie talkies in E.T. were actually guns. Mind blown. Good thing Spielberg came to his senses and is now going to stick to his guns (no pun intended).

@mfundroid: That sounds like a controlled and boring utopia.

I tend to be PC because I like to have actual discussion's and debates with people. That can be difficult to do if you're using loaded terms that you know will piss people off. Now, there is a limit to it all of course... ya don't have to be PC all the time.. but as a general everyday 'default' setting to the way one thinks and speaks... yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. Plus it's great for the vocabulary.

I think you ought to see Political Correctness as a pejorative. You only label instances that you think is politically correct. You don't have to classify every speech that sounds "nice and fluffy" to be political correctness.

To do the latter is what comicvine right-wing troll wannabes would typically classify "political correctness" as, falling right into their trap.

In America and other extreme-free-speech nations you are free to talk shit and all - the OP did not deny that and I don't think anyone else is against that. But even in these countries the freedom to talk means you also have to accept the consequences.

Donald Trump is free to cry that he is being anti-PC and he is free to even say racist/bigot speeches for all he wants, if his country's laws allowed it. Does it mean everyone else has to sit back and do not counters of their own?

@donatellorawks: Yes, I know all this. And I never said people are not allowed to counter him. I welcome people to debate each other and I welcome difference of opinions. I myself criticize Trump. I don't know what you're trying to get at. I simply explained what I thought PC was and is.

I also see it as a semi-discreet way for crybabies to silence something or someone that they don't like or are offended by. For example you may off-handedly refer to a transsexual person as a "trannie" or the like and they'll be like "Wah you can't say that, that's not politically correct!"

Except the fact that "crybabies" don't use the term "political correctness". Also, yay for free speech - these "crybabies" are free to cry.

Well, if I have learned anything so far, it is that bolding parts of my paragraph makes it look like I have something worth saying. Which, I must say, is a very vital life skill. I mean, even if I have nothing worthwhile to say, if I bold it, suddenly people are more likely to read it, or at least, the part I bolded. Can you imagine if I was talking about something else, but randomly threw something like, women over thirty are more likely to eat ice cream then men, even if it wasn't true, or, I mean, it could be, but I have no idea. Can't say I care at the moment either, I am still wrapping my head around the ancient art of selective bolding.

But really, what if I, the moderately interesting person that I am, was a bigot? Can't say I would really care about what random people on the internet thought about me even if they made a thread in an attempt to scare us dastardly PC Bigots (Am I a PC closet bigot... A-Am I even PC? Well, questions for another time like when I go soul searching at the bottom of a bottle). There are just so many other ways I can see myself wasting away my life like... watching fish dance across a screen in the tradition-honed Taiwanese mating ritual, or, you know, waiting in vain until I die since that isn't a thing. In a world of PC Brahs, they can tolerate my intolerance. Or... am I the tolerant one and they are the intolerant ones and I have to tolerate their intolerance of my tolerance of my own intolerance... Well, isn't that just confusing.

Either way, I feel I leave this place with my mind expanded on this new forum technique even if it is sometimes used poorly. I promise, I shall only use this power for evil and my own personal gain, I mean, for the good of... oh, why bother, the bolded part is what is important. Silly wut, you must train harder.

@donatellorawks: I didn't suggest they weren't free to cry. And yes, I've had several people confront me about it in the name of political correctness. I understand that they're free to do so.

Damn muties, it's all their fault.

Political correctness is murdering free speech. Take the word "retarded" as an example. It is a professional term used for those who are late in their mental development. But PC banned it. Then people used Special. Now that is not ok either. Disabled - Not ok. Now we are being forced to call them Differently -abled, when in fact, they are just retarded and that is ok, it is not hateful to call them that it is simply true. I mean i was given warnings for using the word Retarded (without calling anyone that, mind you, just using it to describe the retardedness of an idea) on ComicVine and had my posts altered so they say "Lame".

@silkyballfro94 said:

It wouldn't be controlled or boring at all, we'd just all be accepting of all people without prejudice or bias with all of our personalities in tact. Being calm and peaceful tends to lead to a happier and more fun lifestyle, unless you believe chaos and war makes the world interesting to live in. Either way it's a utopia and you can't disagree with the fact that you wish world acceptance and peace was a deep and natural human characteristic among all of us.

@chimeroid: But you know very well that bigots and jerks did not use the word correctly. "Retarded" may have once been a legitimate word. So was "lame". But they lose that meaning when enough jerks abuse it.

That is exactly WHY some people have had enough.

@phoeulnikx: Ye but, no matter how many new words you come up with they will always denote a mentally retarded person. PC people are demanding that we don't treat them as such and are trying to exclude words that denote them. I have seen so called "inclusion" systems where they send kids with disabilities in regular schools because they are not different than other kids and they both hold back the class and are unable to participate. Political Correctness is ok, but it needs to learn where to stop. Making up word after word will not make those people any less disabled and people will use mental retardation as an insult towards people who are not actually retarded. Or is the idea to completely remove insults altogether? In all honesty that sounds dumber than the previous one.

No they don't use the term political correctness, they label it with the opposite "hate speech" and try to silence it at all costs.