@soduh2:
Yet they have the nerve to say anti-gay Christians are "misrepresenting" their faith
They are misrepresenting the faith. The Bible is clear on homosexuality
@DarkKnightDetective said:
I'm a christian and I find no problem with gay people. It's just the way they are. Who the hell am I to judge them?
The Bible doesn't say judge them but it CLEARLY says that it is wrong and we should avoid it. God made the judgement. Christians just adhere to it.
@lykopis: So --- since you are being specific about Christianity and not so much theism, then I do not see how someone can claim to be a Baptist/Methodist/Catholic and still be supportive of homosexuality which includes marriage, etc.
You can't pick and choose what you want -- God doesn't allow for that, neither does Jesus. Jesus may have preached tolerance, but more in that you should feel mercy and sympathy for those who are "afflicted" with a belief in their homosexuality. Lost sheep and all that.
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@minigunman123: If you're a Christian, believe in Jesus Christ as your savior and believe his teachings, and believe he is the son of God (this is the true definition of a CHRISTian), then no, you can't support gay marriage without compromising your beliefs. That doesn't mean Christians are meant to hate gays, or that they do hate gays, though. That just means we don't approve of the lifestyle
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@Kal'smahboi said:
Nothing about the core beliefs in Christianity says that you have to be "anti-gay." It is the moral stance that the church has taken, but the core beliefs say nothing of it.
This is untrue. It is not something the church invented. From the old testament to the new testament, the bible itself speaks against homosexuality.
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@minigunman123 said:
If you're a Christian, believe in Jesus Christ as your savior and believe his teachings, and believe he is the son of God (this is the true definition of a CHRISTian), then no, you can't support gay marriage without compromising your beliefs. That doesn't mean Christians are meant to hate gays, or that they do hate gays, though. That just means we don't approve of the lifestyle. Doesn't mean we have to shout "you're gay! God hates you!", because he doesn't. People who do are just as bad as people who call soldiers baby-killers because they haven't a good enough understanding or enough brain cells to think about things critically.
Personally, I'm always a bit annoyed to see Christians who support gay marriage; they're two conflicting beliefs. So, which is it? Do you believe in God, or believe in Man? You can't have both. If a Christian supports gay marriage, I understand they're trying to be nice to people, and that's wonderful in one way, but it makes me greatly question their actual faith in being a Christian. It's like condoning murder (no, homosexuals are not murderers, but all sin is equal to God, meaning I'm just as bad as a murderer who's just as bad as a homosexual who's just as bad as my Mother). It goes against everything you say you believe in to condone such things. Why believe in two things that go completely against each other?
That said, I also do not hold non-Christians quite accountable for the same things. I don't support gay marriage, but if you're non-Christian and homosexual, I might not approve of it, but I won't stand in your way. If I argued against it, you'd just think I was a jerk, and maybe you're an awesome person. It's when a person's both Christian and homosexual that really bothers me, because it's like they're running away from what they think they want to believe; it makes me want to ask them, "OK, so what do you really believe in?"
There's no such thing as a true Christian who follows the Bible. If you are, then you do these things as well has hating homosexuals:
Support slavery!
Don't eat shellfish!
Sacrifice a goat after your wife's menstruation period!
No tattoos!
Don't wear clothes of multiple fabrics!
Marry your brother's wife, if your brother dies!
Don't mix crops while planting!
Beat your wife!
For more insanity, please read Leviticus and Deuteronomy.
This statement is 135% false and misleading. Not one Christian is commanded to do these things
Yes, the New Testament is a completely different book, but it's still part of the Bible, correct?
The New Testament is from the Bible. But you are quoting the old testament. Christians don't follow the Old Testament.
@minigunman123: The New testament teaches different things. The New Testament is what we're meant to follow. You should know this if you claim to be such an expert on the Bible.
EXACTLY
@The Devil Tiger: Is ther not a sentence in the bible that say that the judgement/Vengeance/Justice is owned only by god
Yes there is. It tells us not to judge people but it also tells us that certain things are wrong and to avoid those things.
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