Political Vibe: What is your view on abortion?

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#1  Edited By _Sojourn_
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#2  Edited By _Sojourn_

Pro Choice for me

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#3  Edited By turoksonofstone

A.

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#4  Edited By mikethekiller

Part me says pro choice but another part of me says pro life 

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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Slight said:
Pro Choice for me
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#6  Edited By Wise Son
Far be it from me to tell (by tell I mean make) a women what to do with her body but I see no problem with early termination of a pregnancy. Especially if there is no welfare to support the child, a functional family to sustain it,  a stable financial situation or a stable environment. I'm not going to condone a child being thrown into the world, not by choice, and it ends up suffering because mommy got knocked at 15. She kept it, being selfish or felt like she had some illusion responsibility that made her feel like she needed to go through it.  I really don't approve if it's going to have a negative impact on all involved. Potential health complications for mom for one.
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#7  Edited By sesquipedalophobe

Pro-choice, within reason.

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#8  Edited By PrinceIMC

It shouldn't be used as a form of birth control. Meaning that the woman doesn't use any kind of protection because she can always just get an abortion later. But sometimes accidents happen.

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@mikethekiller said:
Part me says pro choice but another part of me says pro life 
I feel the same!!
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#10  Edited By ironshadow

Undecided but overpopulation beign what it is I'm leaning towards pro choice, sure abortion if baby/fetus killing but what's a little fetus killing among all this other crap in the world and besides it's the woman that will live with the choice she has made.

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Pro Choice

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#12  Edited By MKF30

Pro Life

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#13  Edited By Wise Son
I want to hear from some pro lifers.
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#14  Edited By _Sojourn_
@Wise Son said:
I want to hear from some pro lifers.
Not that kind of thread
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#15  Edited By Wise Son
@Slight said: 
@Wise Son said:
I want to hear from some pro lifers.
Not that kind of thread
No ill intent but point taken. 
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Really? 
 
Last thread we had on this did NOT go well. 

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#17  Edited By Mercy_

Pro choice all the way. 

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#18  Edited By _Sojourn_
@TheDrifter: That is why I did not ask for opinions and have already told someone who asked for them that this was not that kind of thread.  
However, I know people, and I know that this can get heated..  
@Wise Son: Thanks XD
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#19  Edited By Chaos Burn

abortions should safe legal and rare

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Abortion is cruel to the child. Think about it: if a cell is alive, and the baby starts as, what, two cells, then isn't the baby alive?

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Abortion is cruel to the child. Think about it: if a cell is alive, and the baby starts as, what, two cells, then isn't the baby alive?

In the window when abortion is legal. There is no child.

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Pro Choice..men want abortions too(no one EVER brings it up)

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Pro-Choice.

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@kasino said:

Pro Choice..men want abortions too(no one EVER brings it up)

It is not a man who has an abortion.

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Imo abortion should be allowed when there is just a clump of cells present or the like, anything resembling a fetus should not be allowed to be aborted.

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It is complicated.

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@mrdecepticonleader: you serious?

ok, no they don't but once a child is their they are a father. yes woman do have birth or abort but without the man there is none of that.

lets just say you moved in with a gal splitting things 50/50. a puppy runs into your home, isn't keeping it a 50/50 decision?

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@kasino said:

@mrdecepticonleader: you serious?

ok, no they don't but once a child is their they are a father. yes woman do have birth or abort but without the man there is none of that.

lets just say you moved in with a gal splitting things 50/50. a puppy runs into your home, isn't keeping it a 50/50 decision?

Yes I am. Deadly.

Its a woman's body not a man's. The couple can discuss it and how they want to go about having a child. But at the end of the day its a woman's choice and responsibly to have that child or not. Just as it should be the man's decision to choose weather they want to be a father or not.

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#30  Edited By jointron33

Abortion is murder, plain and simple. For the ones saying that it's the woman's body, if she didn't want the bastard to be the father of her child, why did she drop her panties for him?

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Abortion is murder, plain and simple. For the ones saying that it's the woman's body, if she didn't want the bastard to be the father of her child, why did she drop her panties for him?

You ever heard of rape?

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Pro Choice.

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kill em all!!!

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The actually procedure and act disgust me, but I respects a woman's right to choose, because I doubt it's a just a simple decision.

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Abortion is murder, plain and simple. For the ones saying that it's the woman's body, if she didn't want the bastard to be the father of her child, why did she drop her panties for him?

How is it murder?

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#38  Edited By jointron33

@pyrogram: why wud u hurt the poor baby for it though?

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#39  Edited By Pyrogram

@jointron33: I'm not dignifying that with a proper response.

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I don't support it unless the woman was raped or was under 18 and will die

If they can't support it they can put it up for adoption ( And I know its not that simple, not trying to make it sound that way )

Other than that, they should have not had ( unprotected ) sex.

Imho

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@joewell said:

I don't support it unless the woman was raped or was under 18 and will die

If they can't support it they can put it up for adoption ( And I know its not that simple, not trying to make it sound that way )

Other than that, they should have not had ( unprotected ) sex.

Imho

Sometimes people get pregnant when even having protected sex.

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Also, it should be apart of the man's choice to if he cares.

I mean the wife shouldn't be able to kill the mans child if he wants to keep it. But it is the woman's body, so I'm kinda conflicted

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Pro choice.

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#44  Edited By willpayton

Pro choice until the later stages where the baby is mostly formed. From that point only if it's necessary for the health of the mother.

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It would be a wonderful world if life were as black and white as some people make it out to be. The sad reality is that things in life are vastly complex, and it is not up to anyone who isn't familiar with a certain situation to pass judgement or even begin to form an opinion on it.

In a world where abortion can be the most selfish act imaginable and in other cases the most responsible thing a person can do, it shouldn't be this easy to sit at your desk, with the warm glow of your monitor illuminating your face, and type out "abortion is this" or "abortion is that."

Activists always use the word "murder" as an instrument of fear, and people always fall for it. Abortion isn't murder. In some cases it is extremely unfair, as it eliminates a certain possible potential, but it isn't murder. This is the same tactic that vegans use while spreading their propaganda, "Meat is murder."

The real issue with abortion is that it would have to be looked upon on a case by case basis, without comparing it to other situations to be able to truly determine whether or not it is called for. This is a problem because most people that have strong opinions on abortion have never met a person in this situation and simply because of the large numbers that have to be dealt with. So, what do you do then? You generalize the situation, and take the best examples possible to try to swing any argument in your favor.

For example, someone says "But abortion is fair for someone in X situation." and instantly someone jumps out, "But, there's been cases where people in a similar situation have had the baby and everything turned out fine." The problem with this logic is that life is unfair, and just because a minority of people seem to fall in the best scenario possible, within reason, most people don't.

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@joewell said:

@mrdecepticonleader: I know, and thats another place where I'm conflicted.

Hmm okay.

It would be a wonderful world if life were as black and white as some people make it out to be. The sad reality is that things in life are vastly complex, and it is not up to anyone who isn't familiar with a certain situation to pass judgement or even begin to form an opinion on it.

In a world where abortion can be the most selfish act imaginable and in other cases the most responsible thing a person can do, it shouldn't be this easy to sit at your desk, with the warm glow of your monitor illuminating your face, and type out "abortion is this" or "abortion is that."

Activists always use the word "murder" as an instrument of fear, and people always fall for it. Abortion isn't murder. In some cases it is extremely unfair, as it eliminates a certain possible potential, but it isn't murder. This is the same tactic that vegans use while spreading their propaganda, "Meat is murder."

The real issue with abortion is that it would have to be looked upon on a case by case basis, without comparing it to other situations to be able to truly determine whether or not it is called for. This is a problem because most people that have strong opinions on abortion have never met a person in this situation and simply because of the large numbers that have to be dealt with. So, what do you do then? You generalize the situation, and take the best examples possible to try to swing any argument in your favor.

For example, someone says "But abortion is fair for someone in X situation." and instantly someone jumps out, "But, there's been cases where people in a similar situation have had the baby and everything turned out fine." The problem with this logic is that life is unfair, and just because a minority of people seem to fall in the best scenario possible, within reason, most people don't.

Well said.

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#48  Edited By lykopis

I am against ANTI-CHOICE -- I am for PRO-CHOICE!

Unrestricted and free and safe abortions for all and a societal environment that lends itself to it being a rare event due to unrestricted and free sex education/contraceptives.

WOOO!

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I'm against it.

I don't think it should happen, but I can understand why it does.

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#50 BumpyBoo  Moderator

@lykopis said:

I am against ANTI-CHOICE -- I am for PRO-CHOICE!

Unrestricted and free and safe abortions for all and a societal environment that lends itself to it being a rare event due to unrestricted and free sex education/contraceptives.

WOOO!

This. So much this <3