Bavaria wanting independence from Germany

So apparently Bavaria wants to have independence and brake free from Germany. Guess Britain and Germany have another thing in common, Both have states that want independence (Britain has Scotland and Germany has Bavaria).

Here's the video:

I don't blame them. If I had to live under Angela Merkel, I'd want to secede too.

I believe that any region that wants independence (Catalonia, Texas, West Papua, etc) should be able to get it. So, if that's what their people want, I fully support them.

I was just there two years ago. From what I understand this is just some fringe people, the majority population of Bavaria doesn't actually want to secede. People talk, but I don't see much coming of it.

Texas could not seceed if they wanted to, it is against the law. They would have to go to war against the government to seceed.

If find it remarkable that the people in their senate have voted on it 4 times in the last 15 years.

Essentially they are voting on whether to commit treason, which is in and of itself a treasonous act, but then again I do not expect some rednecks voted in because of their connections to actually know the law.

@misterwhisper: I don't think wanting independence is inherently treasonous. If that's true, than America is an entire country of traitors for leaving the British empire.

Again, I'm not saying whether they should or should not become independent, I'm just saying that they're not traitors for wanting it anymore than George Washington and the Continental Congress were a group of traitors.

America did commit treason when it left the British Empire.

In the constitution of the US it states that it is treason to try to secede.

Essentially Texas is voting on whether to commit treason, and as elected state officials that makes them voting to commit an act of treason, which is also an act of treason.

@misterwhisper: Well, I think that should be changed. If any region wants independence, I believe it should be allowed to have it, regardless of what a 226 year old piece of paper says. We've changed the constitution 27 times since then, who says we can't change it again.

We seem to have polar opposite views on this subject. You believe that wanting independence makes you a traitor, I believe that wanting your homeland to be free makes you a patriot, like George Washington, William Wallace, Mohandas Gandhi, Moses, or any of the other men who fought both violently and nonviolently to be free.

@mrmonster:

I do not care one way or another about people wanting independence, however I am just pointing out the legality of it in the US.

Just because people are correct year and years later does not make them any less a criminal at the time they committed whatever acts they commit.

History is written by the people that won, not by the people who were correct.

@misterwhisper: If you're just going by the definition of traitor, then yes, I guess you are correct. But I think of traitor in a different way, so I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

I'd like to point out Scotland do not want independence

@giliad_: Now they are talking about independence again after Brexit.

@jwwprod: and it's still a very small minority, Anyways majority f people I know from Scotland know it'll be a shit choice for Scotland

@jwwprod: A far smaller percentage

@giliad_: @royal_warrior: It has been discussed that the reason Scotland decided to not become independent and stay with the UK was because if they left the UK they would have been able to remain with the EU.

Now that the UK as officially voted yes to brexit Scotland is apparently thinking of independence again since most of the no votes came from Scotland.

I hope there's no war over it.

@removekebab said:

I highly don't there will be a war over this.

Germany got Merkeled.

There won't be a war.

@jwwprod: but that's just false, EU has explicitly stated that Scotland would not be allowed to join even if they did get independence also London was a majority No and there was talk of London becoming a European capital which is will never happen

Scotland needs Uk ten times more than UK needs Scotland not to mention they're own natural resources wouldn't even be in their own hands

@lunacyde said:

Well actually there was already a war over this.

After WW1 Bavaria did attempt to brake free from Germany and become a communist nation like Russia, but it ultimately failed and only lasted 25 days.

@jwwprod: Yes, but you can't compare current Germany and post WWI Germany. I mean you can compare, but it's apples to oranges.

Please do not post factually incorrect statements about other countries, thank you.

Not surprising.

Doesn't pretty much most of the major European countries have an independence movement at this stage?

Isn't that sort of against the point of the United States of America?

@lunacyde said:

You have a point.

@jonny_anonymous: It's not incorrect - saying Scotland want independence implicitly states that a majority of the citizens and/or government want to be independent. That's not the case, I imagine a smaller number want to leave at this point even with the referendum vote.

@giliad_: Saying Scotland as a whole doesn't want independence is factually incorrect. You have no idea what the current majority is.

Bump.

Laughable. Nobody who takes this seriously knows anything about German politics.

lol bs

bavaria doesnt want to seperate itself from germany

iirc theres a little party known as "Bayernpartei" (~5000 member) that want an independent Bavaria....

they even tried to get a petition into the parliament but only got ~7000 votes