Some firebending moves that aren't "just kickboxing"
I'm not always sure how to respond to people who criticize her firebending that way-cause it's not like firebending in ATLA wasn't largely punches and kicks as well
I'm not always sure how to respond to people who criticize her firebending that way-cause it's not like firebending in ATLA wasn't largely punches and kicks as well
Well yeah. Firebending is the element of attack attack attack. That's why Iroh and Zuko being able to redirect lightning was such a big deal. Because even the best firebenders like Ozai and Azula still pretty much did direct strikes or bigger direct strikes or faster multi direct strikes.
I'm not always sure how to respond to people who criticize her firebending that way-cause it's not like firebending in ATLA wasn't largely punches and kicks as well
Well yeah. Firebending is the element of attack attack attack. That's why Iroh and Zuko being able to redirect lightning was such a big deal. Because even the best firebenders like Ozai and Azula still pretty much did direct strikes or bigger direct strikes or faster multi direct strikes.
Exactly. People sometimes act like it wasn't largely direct attack, but it was
@arcus1: You should update this with stuff from fighting Hundun
@arcus1: You should update this with stuff from fighting Hundun
Yeah I guess that is canon, might be good
@arcus1: Might want to use spoilers lol
@queen_marceline: yeah...probably a good idea
@arcus1: You should totally make one for Tenzin :p
Great thread. You gonna continue or you gonna stop this? Also my point on why Korra is the better bender imo only. I respect if you think Aang is the better fighter.
Personally, from what we seen from Korra, she would beat Aang more than Aang would beat her.
Korra overall have better control over the element in general. Water and Fire is Korra's best elements, she surpass Aang here with relative ease here (except maybe the end of first season of ATLA but wasn't that an amped Aang with the help of the moon spirit or something, correct me if I am wrong, but either way, he has not shown anything remotely close to it after and Korra has). Earth I say they are pretty even. Aang surpass her in Air (DUH). But then Korra has more to work with since she can heal and has metalbending, something Aang has no real experience against (unless he sparred with Toph when she was chief of police and Aang wanted to have experience fighting metal benders but we know he never learned how to do it). Both have spirit bending and I would say Korra's is a bit superior since well, she has better feats. Aang never really learned to go into the avatar state at will (did he in comics though, not sure if he ever learned but he could in his late 30's though as shown in LOK when she was taken by Tarllok(help me with the name plz, not sure how it's spelled)). I can see both coming out as the winner though I would give Korra the slight majority due to superior bending.
While I am not really a fan of Aang (he was a whiny little asshole and most likely a pedophile, due to him being 100+ y/o being with Katara who is at the start of the show 12 y/o and most likely in her early teens at least at the end of the show, start of the comics, just pointing it out there, and no him being in an iceberg doesn't change anything, he was still born 100 years before her no matter what argument you make, and this is much worse than in the Twilight books I must remind you). Back on topic, I think that while Korra would win the majority, he is a good Avatar (in terms of bending). The problem with him is he is much more straight forward in his approach. Sure, he isn't reckless as Korra but his attacks are straight forward, this is the reason why Azula and Mai and Ty Lee always got the better of him.
While Korra doesn't put that much "power" into her attacks, she fight's with more precision, better control over the elements. She applies martial arts into her fighting and focus more on defend then attack or attack then instantly defend. She also combines the element's more, as stated in this thread, than Aang ever did. She go into fights not prepared and can be reckless as I said before but that can also be one of her greatest strength's. Korra's style of fighting is above Aang's since Aang is more brute force than technique (except when it comes to Air bending). While Korra is more technique than brute force. She use brute force sometimes but not as often as Aang and only when she needs to do it.
Did I mention Korra can go in and out of the Avatar State while Aang cannot at will? Korra held her own against Zaheer when she was poisoned, she was about to lose, but Aang would have lost too if he was poisoned. Nothing that shows otherwise. I feel Korra is the better Avatar overall with skill and as a character.
P.S: Not related here but I hate Katara/Aang and was I the only one hoping for after the show Azula/Katara or was that just weird of me?
@arcus1: Hello, I've had an account here at Comic Vine for years, but only recently have I felt compelled to post here. I personally like Aang more as a character, but I often end up sticking up for Korra in Avatar-related debates because she is quite often underestimated.
Interesting respect thread you've got here, arcus1. Were you considering also making gifs for Korra's Avatar State bending at some point? I can think of at least a few that could compare quite favorably to the other Avatars.
@arcus: true, but I also feel that where he does have more technical skill her power feats vastly surpass..I mean she through a wall
He's got stronger feats in terms of airbending and earthbending (though earthbending is closer, especially after the finale). They only element I'd say he decisively has over her is airbending
I'd actually argue that Korra's airbending is probably equal in power to Aang's, in and out of the Avatar State (if not equal in skill). Note that Aang's most powerful airbending feats involved him either charging up an airbending attack or using the Avatar State, while Korra almost never does either when she airbends.
@arcus1: Hello, I've had an account here at Comic Vine for years, but only recently have I felt compelled to post here. I personally like Aang more as a character, but I often end up sticking up for Korra in Avatar-related debates because she is quite often underestimated.
Interesting respect thread you've got here, arcus1. Were you considering also making gifs for Korra's Avatar State bending at some point? I can think of at least a few that could compare quite favorably to the other Avatars.
Thanks, glad you liked it. I might add some AS gifs when I get the chance
Earth is Korra's weakest element, but she's still a respectably powerful earthbender.
In terms of pure earthbending, she's probably the fifth most powerful earthbender in the verse (after Bumi, Roku, Toph, and Aang).
In terms of skill, earth is Korra's weakest element, but she's no novice (many of the above gifs could apply here too, but I'll avoid them for the sake of avoiding repetition).
Overall, Korra's earthbending provides a nice boost in versatility, especially because of the environmental attacks.
Korra lacks metalbending experience, but she's still skilled enough for it to be a very relevant factor even against masters like Kuvira.
Overall, Korra's metalbending isn't a huge factor against most opponents, but it's an invaluable tool against other metalbenders.
Fire is Korra's most used element (although by EOS air rivals it), and she's got plenty of skill to show for it.
Fire may not be Korra's best element, but that doesn't mean she's not very skilled with it.
When it comes to firebending, Korra's up there with best when it comes to sheer power.
Overall, I think it's clear that Korra is a very powerful firebender, with both greater scale and potency.
Probably Korra's greatest asset when it comes to an Agni Kai is her fire negation abilities.
Overall, Korra's negation abilities are a crucial advantage against other firebenders, and good enough to last a while in any fire duel.
In terms of raw power, Korra is probably the second or third strongest airbender we've seen (Aang and maybe Roku are stronger).
This isn't Korra's only feat on this level of power either:
In addition to great offense, Korra's power provides exceptional defensive options:
Korra is a very powerful airbender, and not one to be trifled with.
Korra often gets a bad reputation as someone who just throws the elements around, but she's actually a very skilled airbender with the feats to prove it:
Overall, Korra's a fairly versatile airbender, giving her some extra options in this fight should she need them.
Airbending's specialty has always been mobility enhancement, and Korra shines here as well:
Korra's airbending gives her great mobility, an often crucial factor in many fights.
In terms of sheer power, Korra is possibly the strongest waterbender in the verse, and in the top five overall benders.
Korra's power with waterbending is incredibly high, allowing her to flat out overpower almost any bender if she has enough water.
In addition to being her strongest element, it's also Korra's best, and she is without a doubt a master waterbender.
To make a long story short, if you want to pick on Korra, you'd better be sure you can handle a wide variety of extremely powerful master level waterbending moves.
Korra is extremely fast, and has great feats in both reaction speed and combat speed, and she's firmly in the upper tier of the avatarverse.
Overall, Korra is rarely going to struggle with her opponent's because of speed.
While not quite as agile as the previous Avatar, Korra is still quite the acrobat when it suits her.
Overall, Korra's natural agility is very good, and she can dodge many attacks without even needing bending.
As Lin Beifong once said, Korra's tough as nails, and can take a lot of hits before going down.
Overall, Korra can afford to make a mistake and tank a hit if she needs to.
Korra is extremely strong, with the high end strength feats to beat down many opponents.
In addition to being very strong, Korra can use her strength, which brings me to my next section.
In addition to being very strong, Korra is also an extremely skilled martial artist.
Keep in mind, the Lieutenant himself is highly skilled (he solo'd S1 Mako and Bolin with ease, and is the number 3 [after Amon and Hiroshi] person in the Equalists, an organization full of skilled nonbenders). He also had a reach advantage and the ability to one-shot Korra in this fight, and yet she still beat him. That alone places her on a high tier of H2H skill, but it's not her only feat:
Overall, Korra is a very skilled CQC combatant, which combined with her top tier bending and physical abilities, rounds her out as one of the most well rounded fighters in the avatarverse.
If you do want to do a Korra CaV, I compiled most of her notable feats in various categories in the post above this one.
If you do want to do a Korra CaV, I compiled most of her notable feats in various categories in the post above this one.
Thanks, I do have my own Korra stash of feats, and I also used Venge's opener in his Korra vs Katara CaV for quick reference, but I will definitely refer to this from now on as well if I need things you focused on. Great job as always.
Huh, why didn't I get a new post alert for this?
Like the thread's TC, you seem to be using Korra's non-Avatar-State feats, so I would't count lifting Bataar, Jr. and chair one-handed among them if I were you. She went into the AS just before lifting him, so that lift is pretty clearly a case of her using the non-continuous Avatar State, where an Avatar goes into the AS briefly to give him/herself a quick power boost and maintains that boost momentarily after coming out of the AS.
"Firebending was her get go element."
No it wasn't. She never had any preference and used all the elements equally.
You clearly don't remember Book 1 or the first half of Book 2, bruh. Back then, Korra easily resorted to fire more than anything else when she was in a pinch.
@DSkillz: No. Not really. She wasn't even allowed to use anything but waterbending during the pro-bending matches, she used water at every opportunity and when water wasn't around in Book 1, she mostly resorted to earth and fire. The only times she only resorted to fire was her first fight with the chi-blockers (because earthbending wasn't very effective in that situation) and when she fought the lieutenant on the roof (since they were standing on nothing but glass, fire was the only option. Although she did utilize airbending techniques throughout that fight)
As for the first half of Book 2. I admit she used quite a lot of fire against that dark spirit in the first episode despite being surrounded by earth and snow (though she used airbending to keep her distance), but since she hadn't learned spiritbending yet, offensive maneuvers (which firebending is mostly about) was kind of the best option available. In the Civil War arc, she barely used any firebending (after all, she was mostly focusing on developing her peacemaking skills), she only used it twice in Peacekeepers and she wasn't even present in The Sting.
Unlike Aang, who favoured airbending. Korra never had any favourite or preferred element, mostly because she discovered she was the Avatar at a very young age and was able to utilize three of them right away. And while it's true that earlier in the series, she sometimes spammed fire when fighting someone, it was never her go to element. But rather her go to tactics were offensive maneuvers. But that changed when she became more mature and patient and started to use all kinds of tactics and used all the elements equally and only went for the element/strategy she deemed best to deal with the situation.
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