Obama's administration has with congressional approval legalized drone strikes on American Citizens in America without due process and minimal over site. Congratulations America you registered voters got fooled for the billionth time
America officially screwed as of yesterday
How do you think special operations groups conduct their business currently? They don't ask for congressional approval to kill or capture a target, regardless of where they are. The privilege of freedom of operations is simply being extended to drone forces.
@TotalBalance: So that just makes it all right then? That's like saying a dude is okay to drive after a beer we may as well legalize drunk driving
@joshmightbe said:
@TotalBalance: So that just makes it all right then? That's like saying a dude is okay to drive after a beer we may as well legalize drunk driving
It is not really similar at all. Drunk driving accomplishes nothing, however being able to quickly eliminate dangerous targets allows a more efficient subjugation of the undesirable elements of society like terrorists.
When I went to London once and the person showing me around said that there were video cameras everywhere monitoring the citizens. I asked them if that bothered them and they said no because they weren't doing anything illegal and if it could keep them safer than they supported it. That's how I feel about this, as long as it isn't abused, and that is often the issue with these types of things. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now because, logically speaking, if I didn't trust my government I wouldn't live here.
@TotalBalance said:
@joshmightbe said:
@TotalBalance: So that just makes it all right then? That's like saying a dude is okay to drive after a beer we may as well legalize drunk driving
It is not really similar at all. Drunk driving accomplishes nothing, however being able to quickly eliminate dangerous targets allows a more efficient subjugation of the undesirable elements of society like terrorists.
I'd be fine with it if it wasn't our government in question. Call me paranoid, but i don't trust them to use it solely on 'undesirable elements'.
@TotalBalance: So let me get this straight, when the republicans legalize wire tapping of Amercans without a Warrant its evil but Democrats legalizing bomb strikes on Americans without even requiring a full scale investigation and its all cool?
@joshmightbe said:
@TotalBalance: So let me get this straight, when the republicans legalize wire tapping of Amercans without a Warrant its evil but Democrats legalizing bomb strikes on Americans without even requiring a full scale investigation and its all cool?
When did I ever say I disagree with the republicans legalizing wire tapping?
@TotalBalance: So you're one of those people that actually believes the cretins in congress have our best interests at heart when they do this crap cause honestly Santa is more likely
@joshmightbe: Why should they have the best interest of the mob in mind? The mob is a foolish and finicky thing that can hardly be called consistent. For that reason government should operate at a distance from the common people so that they can make more rational and long-term decisions for the good of the future of the nation.
*starts digging*
@TotalBalance said:
@joshmightbe: Why should they have the best interest of the mob in mind? The mob is a foolish and finicky thing that can hardly be called consistent. For that reason government should operate at a distance from the common people so that they can make more rational and long-term decisions for the good of the future of the nation.
Isn't that exactly what they've been doing? So in effect, the behavior that fcked us?
...Huh, this is...yeah, this will definitely come up at some point this week.
Looking forward to dinner tonight!
...Challenge Accepted government...
Come and get me!
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That being said the Title makes it sound like we weren't officially screwed before....
@joshmightbe said:
@TheCheeseStabber: Well I had a tiny dim bit of hope left in me but this killed it
*Smh*
Better your dreams be crushed now then later on
@joshmightbe said:
Obama's administration has with congressional approval legalized drone strikes on American Citizens in America without due process and minimal over site. Congratulations America you registered voters got fooled for the billionth time
@joshmightbe said:
@Xanni15: http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/02/07/obama-releases-secret-memo-to-senate-on-drone-program/
Where in that article that you provided does it state that this has " legalized drone strikes on American Citizens in America" ?
From the article it sounds like they are targeting Americans that are overseas and in a senior position in a terrorist organization. Granted, I am only coming to this conclusion from the information you provided thus far.
@cyberchop979 said:
From the article it sounds like they are targeting Americans that are overseas and in a senior position in a terrorist organization. Granted, I am only coming to this conclusion from the information you provided thus far.
That was my conclusion as well.
Still pretty horrible though.
Then again, raining death from above on anyone without due process is pretty horrible.
@joshmightbe: I think you might have mistaken satire for reality. The memo and the articles that have been provided clearly state that the drone attacks are conducted off U.S. soil, and to American targets that are senior members of a terrorist organization.
@cyberchop979: But they don't actually require proof that these are senior members, suspicion is the only requirement meaning its basically whoever the government decides to bomb so long as someone thinks they could be a terrorist.
@joshmightbe said:
@cyberchop979: But they don't actually require proof that these are senior members, suspicion is the only requirement meaning its basically whoever the government decides to bomb so long as someone thinks they could be a terrorist.
I don't disagree with the fact the lack of due process is disturbing. All I am saying is the OP is kinda misleading.
This is all happening over seas in war torn countries with known concentrations of terrorists and terrorist organizations.
It doesn't make it right, but what your OP states is not happening either.
@TotalBalance said:
@joshmightbe said:
@TotalBalance: So that just makes it all right then? That's like saying a dude is okay to drive after a beer we may as well legalize drunk driving
It is not really similar at all. Drunk driving accomplishes nothing, however being able to quickly eliminate dangerous targets allows a more efficient subjugation of the undesirable elements of society like terrorists.
I automatically disagree with any statement that has that in it.
@Jonny_Anonymous said:
@TotalBalance said:
@joshmightbe said:
@TotalBalance: So that just makes it all right then? That's like saying a dude is okay to drive after a beer we may as well legalize drunk driving
It is not really similar at all. Drunk driving accomplishes nothing, however being able to quickly eliminate dangerous targets allows a more efficient subjugation of the undesirable elements of society like terrorists.
I automatically disagree with any statement that has that in it.
Why is that?
@Jonny_Anonymous: Yea cause historically it has never ended well when Governments start deciding whose an undesirable element.
I'm not really a fan of this analogy, although I get the sentiment.When I went to London once and the person showing me around said that there were video cameras everywhere monitoring the citizens. I asked them if that bothered them and they said no because they weren't doing anything illegal and if it could keep them safer than they supported it. That's how I feel about this, as long as it isn't abused, and that is often the issue with these types of things. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now because, logically speaking, if I didn't trust my government I wouldn't live here.
The CCTV system is a passive monitoring system. It's intent and basic function is not to harm - simply to watch and monitor. A drone strike has one purpose and one purpose only - to kill.
Population reductions plan almost at 100% before initiation.
1980 = 3 Billion people on Earth
2001 = 5 Billion people on Earth
2013 = 7 Billion people on Earth
2015 = 2 Billion people on Earth
@_Zombie_ said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
Population reductions plan almost at 100% before initiation.
1980 = 3 Billion people on Earth
2001 = 5 Billion people on Earth
2013 = 7 Billion people on Earth
2015 = 2 Billion people on Earth
That's completely irrelevant.
How many resorces do we have in the planet to continue to maintain over 7 Billion Human Beings and rising?
- 1 Billion Meat Produce (cattle,pigs,lamb etc) vs 7 Billion people
- Trees greately declining
- Pollution rising
- Sodium Floride in Water
- Mercury in Vaccines
- Perservitives in foods
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