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#1 Posted by spidercom (37 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America is said to be the best fighter in H2H in the Marvel universe but are there others that could surpass him.

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#2 Posted by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he's the best, but he's definitely one of them. Wolverine, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Elektra and Black Panther are all up there too

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#3 Posted by Owie (6167 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Iron Fist and Shang Chi are often noted as the top fighters, at least in terms of skill.

I think Taskmaster is probably a bit below?

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#4 Edited by spidercom (37 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap has defeated Wolverine, Iron fist, Daredevil and Black Panther in H2H before. I wonder who would win between him and Elektra also some seem to forget Nick Fury probably as good as Cap himself.

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#5 Posted by PowerHerc (86183 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Captain America is the best followed by Iron Fist.

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#6 Posted by ssejllenrad (13095 posts) - - Show Bio

Aunt May I believe... Nyehehehehe!

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#7 Posted by Hoboseid (1043 posts) - - Show Bio

Mantis, Mandarin are near the top

Cap, Panther etc are great, they are more or less equal but don't have any of those mystic ridiculous feat Mandarin has

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#8 Posted by homeslice (188 posts) - - Show Bio

I think cap is the best.

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#9 Posted by DoomDoomDoom (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

@spidercom said:

Cap has defeated Wolverine, Iron fist, Daredevil and Black Panther in H2H before. I wonder who would win between him and Elektra also some seem to forget Nick Fury probably as good as Cap himself.

Black Panther has defeated Cap too.

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#10 Posted by Manchine (5515 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America is the best HUMAN LEVEL hand to hand fighter in Marvel. Only one person could defeat Cap more then 50% of the time is Karata Kid.

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#11 Posted by jhazzroucher (21025 posts) - - Show Bio

Taskmaster, Captain America, Storm, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Black Panther, Wolverine, Gambit

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#12 Posted by ShirEPanjshir (605 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm actually pretty sure there's already a topic exactly like this one, but anyway. Iron Fist, Wolverine, Captain America, Shang Chi, etc. Are all viable candidates.

Though I don't know enough about these characters to judge.

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#13 Posted by HigorM (8280 posts) - - Show Bio

Kraven has defeated Black Panther.. but i think Shang Chi is the top H2H fighter, he masters all kind of martial arts.. and has improve then too..

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#14 Posted by spidercom (37 posts) - - Show Bio

BP may have defeated cap before but that was way back when cap was still young and inexperinced and cap has beaten him many times now.

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#15 Edited by cattlebattle (15827 posts) - - Show Bio

Gorgon
 
@jhazzroucher said:

Taskmaster, Captain America, Storm, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Black Panther, Wolverine, Gambit


Storm??
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#16 Posted by telepathic666 (230 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok i am a strom fanboy, but come on hand to hand, that is pushing it, But back on subject, I think Elektra is as she Marvels top assassin, but Iron Fist and what about Moon Knight?

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#17 Posted by OmegaTheDestroyer (1060 posts) - - Show Bio

Gamora

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#18 Posted by Dracade102 (8452 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Black Pantner or Taskmaster, I think... 
Iron Fist, Captain America, Kraven, Red Skull & Daredevil are also up there, too...

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#19 Edited by cattlebattle (15827 posts) - - Show Bio

I am really amazed that people are saying names like Red Skull and Daredevil and even Black Panther.....
 
 
what about Gamora, Mantis, Karnak, The Cat, Gorgon....aren't these guys above most of them
 
I guess its all based on opinion though, so......whatever

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#20 Edited by Gambit1024 (10217 posts) - - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: DD and BP Aren't the best, but yeah they're certainly up there. Red Skull's a bit of a stretch, though.

@spidercom said:

Cap has defeated Wolverine, Iron fist, Daredevil and Black Panther in H2H before. I wonder who would win between him and Elektra also some seem to forget Nick Fury probably as good as Cap himself.

And Cap's been taken down by DD, Wolverine and Black Panther. I don't think Fury's as good as Cap is, but he's got some good moves. He's a better marksman though.

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#21 Posted by EmmaGrace (1049 posts) - - Show Bio

What about Psylocke?

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#22 Posted by jhazzroucher (21025 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (12341 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

@cattlebattle said:

Gorgon

@jhazzroucher said:

Taskmaster, Captain America, Storm, Iron Fist, Daredevil, Black Panther, Wolverine, Gambit

Storm??

just check this link: http://www.comicvine.com/storm/29-1444/how-good-is-she/92-542369/#96


Storm is formidable h2h fighter but....one of the BEST h2h fighters in Marvel? I don't think so. She doesn't have the feats to place her as one of the best. There are a good number of other charcaters who have superior showinfs in technique and ability that are above Storm. 
 
My list of top h2h fighters...  
 
Men 
  
Wolverine 
Captain America/Black Panther  
Iron Fist 
Taskmaster   
Deadpool

 
Women 
  
Gamora 
Mantis
Elektra 
Lady Deathstrike 
Mockingbird/Black Widow 
 


 


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#24 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2437 posts) - - Show Bio

Mantis, Gamora, Mister X

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#25 Posted by ReVamp (23015 posts) - - Show Bio

@PowerHerc said:

I'd say Captain America is the best followed by Iron Fist.

Shang Chi + The Cat > Iron Fist > Captain America > Bucky Barnes & Daredevil (nearly on same level, but he's got a better physique) > Wolverine & Elektra.

If Cap wasn't a Supersoldier it'd be different though. Or maybe it wouldn't. No idea where BP is on this, but probably in the last two groups.

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#26 Edited by entropy_aegis (18174 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr X is the best Marvel fighter overall,funny only one person before me has mentioned him lol.

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#27 Posted by primepower53 (6064 posts) - - Show Bio
@ssejllenrad said:
Aunt May I believe... Nyehehehehe!
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#28 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1811 posts) - - Show Bio

As far as skill and not BS written into crap story lines,

Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Karnak, Taskmaster, Daredevil (in no order) should all in honesty beat cap one on one (no shananigans written in). Cap may have more heart and super-serum but not skill. the military doesn't give you the training that these others have recieved. and as far as taskmaster he can do anything cap can do and more.

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#29 Posted by actionmaker518 (34 posts) - - Show Bio

cap, iron fist, daredevil, and taskmaster

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#30 Posted by Hulk_inside (69 posts) - - Show Bio

Hand to hand? why is everyone saying cap he can be easily beaten by millions. with out ANY extra powers JUST fighting i would say World Breaker Hulk because of his supreme healing factor. With powers? the One above all.

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#31 Posted by jonathangrzywo (2 posts) - - Show Bio

ok i have been reading these and here is the definitive answer

h2h its wolverine then cap then cable actually and then sabertooth then taskmaster then moonknight then punisher then ironfist daredevil deadpool

in straight hand to hand i have comics to prove all these stan lee himself rated iron fist at a fighting ability at level 6 out of a possible 7 cable sabertooth wolverine and cap were the only group rated at 7 by stan lee and i have ranked them in order due to how well they did fighting amongst each otger in comics wolvie has the edge on cap and so on daredevil beat deadpool and all the rest are in order due to them actually fighting in comics

thats the best your gonna get as far as accuracy unless you wanna argue with stan lee ;)

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#32 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

wolverine. he knows all of the planets fighting styles and some extraterrestrial ones too.

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#33 Posted by SoA (6238 posts) - - Show Bio

black panther

ironfist

Daredevil

wolverine

cap

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#34 Posted by blastaar (160 posts) - - Show Bio

Shang-Chi or Iron Fist.

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#35 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45338 posts) - - Show Bio

@OmegaTheDestroyer said:

Gamora
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#36 Edited by TheDude123 (1972 posts) - - Show Bio

Heroes:

1st: Shang Chi

2nd: Black Panther

3rd: Captain America

Villains:

1st: Mister X

2nd::Taskmaster

3rd: Cat

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#37 Posted by SirMethos (1484 posts) - - Show Bio

Just stumbled on this thread. It's kinda amusing, that no one has actually mentioned the top contender for the title:

The Prince of Orphans.

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#38 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (4190 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr X obviously....

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#39 Posted by MrPsycho (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Surprised that no one has mentioned the Champion of the Universe, he packs a punch

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#40 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel Girl!

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#41 Edited by JJ62 (1363 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the top ten would look a bit like this: Captain America, Daredevil, Black Panther, Nick Fury, Elektra, Wolverine, Deadpool, Iron Fist, Black Widow, Hercules. With Thor, Bucky and Moon Knight as honorable mentions. I'm only listing heroes though...not sure what it'd look like with villains too.

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#42 Posted by olbassey (64 posts) - - Show Bio

Who in the Marvel Universe beats the Incredible Hulk in a fist-fight? Or is that just the obvious answer and everyone's just trying to be creative??

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#43 Posted by Strider1992 (18205 posts) - - Show Bio

Taskmaster when he isn't jobbing!

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#44 Edited by FearTheLiving (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd throw Hawkeye into the mix after all, he was trained by Cap.

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#45 Posted by Cap10nate (3628 posts) - - Show Bio

This is always one of those questions that you can take in different directions. Is it who has the best skills . . . or . . . who is the best H2H fighter.

Hulk is low skilled but barely no one could beat him in a H2H fight because of his strength and near invulnerability.

Shang Chi and Iron Fist are ridiculously skilled at fighting H2H but lack the power to take down someone as strong as Hulk.

In a combination of both, I'd take Gamora. She can withstand the heat of the surface of the sun and has some of the best skills in the entire Marvel U.

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#46 Edited by Dernman (22156 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know if this is still true but Marvel has more then once said Mantis is the best but if you're going to be logical then Champion should be the best.

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#47 Posted by CBninja (178 posts) - - Show Bio

I will say this. Captain America got beat down by the spider queen during spider island.

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#48 Edited by Warpimp (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Taskmaster always at least on par with whoever is best as long as he has seen them fight?

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#49 Posted by darthphoenix (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel has always been bias when it comes to their heroes. I'm sure they'd say Captain America is the best. Match him with bigger heroes and villains and he'd still win. why? because he's a marvel icon, a marvel favorite.

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#50 Posted by darthphoenix (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

come on, soldier vs ninjas and martial arts masters? duh