Will Frank Miller ever redeem himself?

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Frank Miller's recent comics, namely ASBAR and Holy Terror, have been either really bad, or putrid. But do you think he'll ever redeem himself again? Will he ever return to the days of Sin City and Batman: Year One?

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He doesn't need to redeem himself. He is one of the best comic writers ever, period. All star and holy terror aren't bad, they're just offensive and not meant to be taken seriously.

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If you're already one of the all time greats, you don't need to redeem yourself.

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Batman: year one = tenure

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Frank Miller's Daredevil>Anything

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No and frankly (heh) he's vastly overrated.

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Just because he has written some good things doesn't mean he gets a pass for the atrocious bad things.

Frank Miller sucks Batman's *** harder than any writer I have ever seen in my life. And Holy Terror just proved he is an Islamaphobic piece of trash.

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#10  Edited By Bluejay4

ASBAR made me throw up.

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He doesn't have to "redeem himself" for writing comics you don't like, especially after Year One, DKR, and Daredevil.

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Oh, is Holy Terror that offensive? I've been meaning to read it, because I thought it was a good concept. I however knew it had to be handled delicately.

EDIT: Also, Miller's earlier work (probably) absolves him from anything else.

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He wrote Batman? Goddamn. He must be great.

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#14  Edited By Jonez_

Are you dense? Are you retarded? Frank Miller is the goddamn best Batman writer!

No, seriously. Year One is the greatest comic of all time.

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#15  Edited By infantfinite128

I already believe he's the best Batman writer. Will he get back to his old days, no, but he doesn't have to. His Batman and Daredevil beat out almost everything.

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His Daredevil run already put him so highly he has nothing to redeem himself from.

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Yes, when he sacrifices his life to save the universe.

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Frank Miller doesn't care.

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Nothing Miller has wrote has impressed me so far.

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#20  Edited By Teerack

Jim Starlin is starting be come down with Miller Syndrome.

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No and frankly (heh) he's vastly overrated.

The Truth=Been Spoken!!!

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Oh, is Holy Terror that offensive? I've been meaning to read it, because I thought it was a good concept. I however knew it had to be handled delicately.

EDIT: Also, Miller's earlier work (probably) absolves him from anything else.

Yes, it is. It's artwork is awful as well.

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Nope. Just because you have to respect him as one of the best writers in the past, does not mean you can ignore his past decade +

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@jayc1324: I'm sorry, but if you think that spitting in the faces of islams + horrid art + a whopping 5 years to develop is not supposed to be taken seriously, then you're just Frank wanking now. You're treating it as if it was just some kid's stuff.

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@blackwind: what's wrong with being islamophobic? ISIS doesn't seem too friendly.

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@night4345: All right thanks.

I'll have to try and make time to read Holy Terror and decide for myself.

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@gjgp27 said:

@blackwind: what's wrong with being islamophobic? ISIS doesn't seem too friendly.

ISIS is an unrecognized state and terrorist group they don't represent Islam, that's like saying the Ku Klux Klan represents Christianity

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@lensnart: but u must admit, there r more christians that apologize for the extremists in their midst then muslims

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@gjgp27: I don't know about that, I know plenty of Muslim's who are disgusted by the actions of extremists. The fact is the extremists don't represent the religion and people shouldn't act like they do

that's all their is too it

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@symbioticspider-man: You are only further proving my point. You are taking it way too seriously. It's a comic book. People say bad things about Islams everyday. Comedians joke about them all the time. Yet people will freak out over a book. Miller is one of the best all time.

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#31  Edited By aquaman01

@gjgp27 said:

@blackwind: what's wrong with being islamophobic? ISIS doesn't seem too friendly.

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#33  Edited By BlackWind

@gjgp27: By this logic the KKK is the representative of all white people. Guess I should be afraid my mom is going to hang me now because she is white.

The people claiming he is one of the greatest are just ignoring what they don't want to acknowledge. Miller used to be great. Not anymore.

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@Jayc1324 ...look man, I just wanted to have a reason to say Frank wanking... But it's still offensive.

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#35  Edited By SilverPool

You can say what you will about his writing, but his artwork is something he can never be redeemed for.

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@jayc1324 said:

@symbioticspider-man: You are only further proving my point. You are taking it way too seriously. It's a comic book. People say bad things about Islams everyday. Comedians joke about them all the time. Yet people will freak out over a book. Miller is one of the best all time.

it's not just the offensive subject matter, it's also the fact that Holy terror is a shockingly terrible comic and even if it wasn't supposed to be taken seriously( which I'm pretty sure it was since Frank described it as a piece of propaganda which only works if you take it seriously) That doesn't make it any better.

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@lensnart: well if you think its terrible than fine, but Miller is not bad because of the offensive stuff. Every writer has some work that isn't that good.

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The bad stuff by Miller is more than just "Eh, he's wrote better than this." Miller's "bad" goes beyond that. It goes into offensive, writer wanking, and love letter writing. And if you pretend its not a big deal you are probably willingly ignoring.

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@jayc1324: Just curious, do you thing allstar BMAR and holy terror are good?

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@lensnart: all star is good if you don't take it seriously. Its batman taken to the extreme and is actually quite funny

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