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#1 Posted by kgb725 (13687 posts) - - Show Bio

why do many anti heroes feel that they have been cursed with power

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#2 Posted by judasnixon (10694 posts) - - Show Bio

Bad Writing?

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#3 Posted by mk111 (3148 posts) - - Show Bio

Becuase anti-heroes are generally whiney and emo.

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#4 Posted by TheCannon (20267 posts) - - Show Bio

Makes them more interesting.

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#5 Posted by JonSmith (4503 posts) - - Show Bio

In the case of superpowered anti-heroes, it's generally because their powers make it rather difficult for them NOT to kill people and be normal heroes.

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#6 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29887 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon said:

Bad Writing?

@mk111 said:

Becuase anti-heroes are generally whiney and emo.

Get out.

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#7 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (16463 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@judasnixon said:

Bad Writing?

@mk111 said:

Becuase anti-heroes are generally whiney and emo.

Get out.

lol, not true. just a few like Eddie Brock

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#8 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, think about what defines an "anti-hero." The way they operate sort of requires a specific personality type.

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@Imagine_Man15 said:

Well, think about what defines an "anti-hero." The way they operate sort of requires a specific personality type.

I don't know. I could see someone having Punisher's outlook on how to deal with criminals without the tragedy birthing an angry personality.

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#10 Posted by judasnixon (10694 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123: Ha Ha Ha.... I'm Serious. It's the bad 90's cliche. Some writer think you have to make a character dark, angry, and brooding all the time to make a character cool. It turns into a pissing contest which character can have the crapper life, and they call it character development. Next thing you know they can't have a girlfriend or boyfriend with out them getting blown up, raped, or shoved in a fridge by their archenemy. You can have an interesting anti-hero without him or her being a moody A-hole all the time....... 
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#11 Posted by Dragonborn_CT (26211 posts) - - Show Bio

@judasnixon said:

@InnerVenom123: Ha Ha Ha.... I'm Serious. It's the bad 90's cliche. Some writer think you have to make a character dark, angry, and brooding all the time to make a character cool. It turns into a pissing contest which character can have the crapper life, and they call it character development. Next thing you know they can't have a girlfriend or boyfriend with out them getting blown up, raped, or shoved in a fridge by their archenemy. You can have an interesting anti-hero without him or her being a moody A-hole all the time.......

That is Joss Whedon for you...

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#12 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29887 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

lol, not true. just a few like Eddie Brock

super-duper-angsty lol

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#13 Posted by akbogert (3323 posts) - - Show Bio

Are we differentiating here between a flawed hero and an anti-hero? I have some thoughts but I'd like to know how exactly you're defining anti-hero, because as suggested I've always just assumed the grit was part of the term. So like I said, for the purposes of giving a better answer, what precisely do you mean by "anti-hero?"

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#14 Posted by JediXMan (36775 posts) - - Show Bio

What do you think causes someone to become an anti-hero?

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#15 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (16463 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

lol, not true. just a few like Eddie Brock

super-duper-angsty lol

given that the near entirety of his existence before this moment was spent blaming people for his own problems , you can forgive me if i dont take this scan to seriously

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#16 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29887 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt: There's actually a scan of Eddie as Venom making fun of how anti-heroes get depressed. I wish I still had it. He basically says "Screw it, I do what I want" and slimes his way across an alley laughing about it.

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#17 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29887 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt: Wait.

I found it.

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#18 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (16463 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt: There's actually a scan of Eddie as Venom making fun of how anti-heroes get depressed. I wish I still had it. He basically says "Screw it, I do what I want" and slimes his way across an alley laughing about it.

lol, well i must admit, i've always loved Eddie's sense of humor. but isnt that a bit hypocritical of him? wasnt he contemplating suicide at one point? although that was before he became Venom. gaining all that power would change my outlook on life too.

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#19 Posted by SavageDragon (2257 posts) - - Show Bio

You kind of have to be angry at something to kill people again and again.

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#20 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (16463 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt: Wait.

I found it.

well, i've found my new avatar.

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#21 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29887 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt: There's actually a scan of Eddie as Venom making fun of how anti-heroes get depressed. I wish I still had it. He basically says "Screw it, I do what I want" and slimes his way across an alley laughing about it.

lol, well i must admit, i've always loved Eddie's sense of humor. but isnt that a bit hypocritical of him? wasnt he contemplating suicide at one point? although that was before he became Venom. gaining all that power would change my outlook on life too.

Yeah. It is. But Eddie's all about hypocrisy. And being hilarious.

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#22 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (16463 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt said:

@InnerVenom123 said:

@Avenging-X-Bolt: There's actually a scan of Eddie as Venom making fun of how anti-heroes get depressed. I wish I still had it. He basically says "Screw it, I do what I want" and slimes his way across an alley laughing about it.

lol, well i must admit, i've always loved Eddie's sense of humor. but isnt that a bit hypocritical of him? wasnt he contemplating suicide at one point? although that was before he became Venom. gaining all that power would change my outlook on life too.

Yeah. It is. But Eddie's all about hypocrisy. And being hilarious.

i wonder how long it took him to realize that he basically solved his hunger problems with the brains comment...

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#23 Posted by Decoy Elite (30159 posts) - - Show Bio

Anger is the easiest way to explain why someone would try and be a hero while also murdering people.

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#24 Posted by Veshark (9458 posts) - - Show Bio

BECAUSE ANGZT IS TOTALLY KEWL, RAGEZ AND A DARK PAZT IS WHAT MAKES A HERO SO BADAZZZZ BLOOD! STRYKE! SLASH! RIP! LOOK HOW ANGGREH I AM.

Yeah, it's probably just a holdover from the 90s when dark anti-heroes were really popular. Writers who didn't understand that dark doesn't necessarily equal mature thought that angsty, angry heroes who murder were the future of comics. Hence why characters like Wolverine, Punisher, or Ghost Rider are quite popular.

That being said, not all anti-heroes are angry. Case in point: Deadpool.

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#25 Edited by NeonGameWave (19272 posts) - - Show Bio

It`s what separates them from the heroes, they make their own rules and achieve their own goals through their own methods in which society, morals and what makes right as well as wrong is a non factor or obstacle. Power is something they need to have in order to fulfil certain goals however if they feel cursed, it is probably because as the Hero knows, with Great Power comes Great Responsibility. Therefore without that understanding they suffer for their actions and in the end are shaped as they become rageful because know one seems to understand them.

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#26 Posted by Captain_Yesterday (810 posts) - - Show Bio

Well they don't get the "Anti" from being fun loving cuddly teddy bears now do they?

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#27 Posted by FiMFTW (691 posts) - - Show Bio

Do you think everyone would still love Rorschach and call him badass if he were a giant pink fluffy bunny?

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#28 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725: It's a trope of their type of character.

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#29 Posted by Xwraith (33057 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't an anti-hero by definition have to be angry?

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#30 Posted by Yung ANcient One (5248 posts) - - Show Bio
Why are Speedsters talkative, impulsive, and ver active? Why are Powerhouses brutes, strong silent type, or angry? Why are Geniuses Nerdy, Over-analytical, and unsociable? Why are No Powers/ Simple powers having heroes filled with a great personality? Why are Young Heroes so brash? We can go on & on & on &on (+)
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#31 Edited by RDClip (1830 posts) - - Show Bio

Because the moment an anti-hero starts being happy about and enjoying killing, they become a villain. In fiction, an anti-hero is someone who rejects the standards of society and morality for some reason and does things tha a normal hero would consider morally reprehensible. John McClain might have to kill people in the line of duty, but I doubt he would torture someone like Denzel Washington in Man on Fire.

Usually some traumatic event occurs in an anti-hero's life to push them over that moral line into the grey area. Otherwise, they are just an complete psychopath (though arguements could be made for all anti-heroes being mentally ill). Because if they aren't angry about something, then why al the kllling and beating and torturing?

People say the angry anti-hero is a artifact of the 90's, but Namor (correct me if i'm wrong, I don't know much about him) was an anti-hero in the 40's and wasn't the Punisher invented in the 70's? Heck, I could make arguements for Achillies and Hecules being anti-heroes. Being angry, moody, and having a tragic backstory pretty much go hand-in-hand with being an anti-hero.

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#32 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10191 posts) - - Show Bio

Because the Fans are angry :P

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#33 Edited by Eternal19 (2178 posts) - - Show Bio

Because writers think it makes them more interesting. In my opinion i think the heroes who have a more realistic personality like Superman, nightwing, and Spiderman are more interesting

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#34 Posted by Timandm (3393 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't that sort of go with BEING an anti-hero....
 
anti-heroes aren't thought of as nice people.  Most ''super heroes" would say anti-heroes lack the qualities of true heroes.  Things like nobility and strong moral fiber.    Why would a happy non-angry person become an anti-hero?

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#35 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3080 posts) - - Show Bio
@Eternal19 said:

Because writers think it makes them more interesting. In my opinion i think the heroes who have a more realistic personality like Superman, nightwing, and Spiderman are more interesting