Who could psychologically break or manipulate the Joker?

No magic, no telepathy, no fight, Just good old fashioned words. Is it possible? Is there anyone who could really give Joker a taste of his own medicine? (Any character from any series can count)

Court of owls.

This should be in the battle forums imo.

It's not a battle, it's a character analysis.

@gr8n3ss said:

No magic, no telepathy, no fight, Just good old fashioned words. Is it possible? Is there anyone who could really give Joker a taste of his own medicine?

@gr8n3ss: Ohhhh... Joker's too insane for any logic to go in his brain. Lol.

Maybe someone from his past that can force him to remember the time he was sane.

Goku

Maybe Ozymandias from Watchmen?

Lucifer

Goku is stupid.

No.

The Master, maybe

Dr. Hurt mybe

On Topic: Probably Batman since he knows him very well..Or Perhaps a higher intellectual like Lex Luthor or Doom but even then thats rather unlikely. Would have picked Ghost Rider as my first choice..But you said no magic :(....And Thats probably the only way to break the Joker with Magic...The Joker isnt a regular crazy person like Victor Zazz or Two Face..Hes so crazy hes practically magical..Remember when Scarecrow sprayed the Joker with his fear gas..And the Joker just laughed it off..That implies that there might be no real scientific way to beat/ break him other then with Magic.

There are very few people who can even get under his skin... Batman being one of them.

As for manipulating him, I think the only one who can really do so and get away with it is Lex Luthor, and even he can only do so because he seems to be one of the few people who can tell when and where Joker needs his space and to do his thing. Possibly also helped by how Joker normally seems to find Lex and his schemes to his liking.

Also, oddly enough, Superman actually did manage to pull it off in Emperor Joker when he managed to make Joker realize he couldn't even define his own world without Batman no matter how hard he tried to completely erase him.

Ofc there is the option of figuratively putting a stick in his head and drive him around, like the Martian Manhunter did temporarily in Rock of Ages.

If you notice that his one motivation and weakness is usually Batman, it's possible to manipulate him if you are smart enough.

Bugs Bunny

@Penguin-Dust said:

@never_give_up said:

@Penguin-Dust said:

Goku

Goku is stupid.

Nope that Goku stuff is annoying.

Bueno

No one.

This. Everyone is trying they're hardest to find a answer but here it is.

Here are a few:

Johan Liebert (Monster)

Iago (from the original Othello)

Jigsaw (from the Saw franchise)

O'Brien (from George Orwell's dystopian novel 1984)

These guys are all insanely brutal and can definitely pull it off.

Well Terry McGinnes did in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker. I guess it can be argued that it wasn't really the Joker though. So idk. Other than Terry, I think Batman is capable. And I think someone like Beetlejuice would have no problem breaking or manipulating Joker. I think he'd just need some time.

Nobody but Batman (on a good day). Whenever Lex and Joker interact Lex loses control of him rather easily (if he had any in the first place).

Batman could possibly. Joker seemed to consider rehabilitation in The Killing Joke, or at least took it seriously. Only Batman would register to him on such a deep level from what I can see.

@outside_85: Creeper managed to do so to a certain extent in his solo from the 90s. It didn't last long though.

Red Hood. He wiped the smile off Jokers face.

Break him? No. Manipulate him? Yes.

1. Lucifer
2. Batman
3. Lex Luthor

Aizen

@crafter: agree

Martian Manhunter

Dr. Fate, Zoom (by trying to explain Speed Force Time Travel lol)

Dick Grayson, joker really hates dick, possibly use that to get under his skin

@leo-343 said:

@never_give_up said:

Nope that Goku stuff is annoying.

On topic: this is a pretty interesting thread, unfortunately I can't think of anyone who can pull this off.

Nah you would let two kids fight a monster then everyone on the planet would die.

@payneintheass said:

@those_eyes said:

No, but it would be interesting. That's my favorite version of Hannibal.

Batman.

How kind.

Hannibal Lecter

Freddy Krueger

Josh Groban would totally own the Joker

The Doctor.

Red Skull