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http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/dc-comics-cancels-batgirl-joker-variant-at-artists-request

Here is a link to all the information. The cover was released for the June issue, people complained and now DC won't publish that variant. What do you guys think? Was its removal justified? Should DC not have given in? Whatever your opinion is try to be respectful.

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I'm just gonna say that if there was a variant with Bane holding batman like that after be breaking his back no one would care.

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#3  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@jayc1324 said:

I'm just gonna say that if there was a variant with Bane holding batman like that after be breaking his back no one would care.

I don't think they would draw Batman with a tear in his eye in this scenario.

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@jedixman: Very true. But if they did, no one would demand its removal.

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That sucks, I thought the cover was great. A really sinister reminder of what had transpired between Barbara and Joker and a reminder of the extreme trauma she had to recover from. If people had such a problem with it they just shouldn't buy it, not ruin it for the people that actually liked it.

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@jayc1324 said:

I'm just gonna say that if there was a variant with Bane holding batman like that after be breaking his back no one would care.

I don't think they would draw Batman with a tear in his eye in this scenario.

I really don't see the problem with the sinister nature of the cover. The part of Barb's history that the cover is referencing was terrible and traumatic, the cover should reflect that.

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Man...people gets upset by almost anything now, is annoying.

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@theocitylegend: I agree, that was a very important part of her and dc's history. She has a dark history. Its a fact. Simple as that. Them acknowledging it is great and the fact that she overcame it makes her stronger.

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It really bugs me how Tumblr is now leaking into comic books and that a loud minority is stopping the greater majority from experiencing a great piece of art and a great homage to Barb's troubled history.

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Complete bs

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I don't even read Batgirl and I was planning to pick that variant up.....I'm tired of companies pandering to overly sensitive people....

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That cover was one of the best ones I saw in the solicitations. Sucks that it got removed.

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THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HATE FEMINISTS! It is not all feminists but there are enough of the bad ones to taint the entire flock, decent feminists need to identify as something else....

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(wipes away tears of laughter)

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I haven't posted on CV since the start of GG due to not wanting to be moderated to high hell , however I'll say a few words to those upset about DC pulling the variant GG stands along side anyone standing up for free speech and freedom of expression you are not alone.

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@buttersdaman000 said:

I don't even read Batgirl and I was planning to pick that variant up.....I'm tired of companies pandering to overly sensitive people....

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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@buttersdaman000 said:

I don't even read Batgirl and I was planning to pick that variant up.....I'm tired of companies pandering to overly sensitive people....

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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#20 the_stegman  Moderator

That cover was amazing and harkened back to the most influential moments of Barbara's life. I wish DC would have stuck with it instead of giving in to whiny, sensitive idiots.

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The way I'm reading it is that the guy cancelled it because some freakshow's were being threatened because they didn't like it.

Its a totally bizarre internet-fool reaction, someone doesn't agree with you, so threaten to kill them. Then claim it was a joke or they took it the wrong way, but regardless in trying to stop that sort of toxic environment DC has over-reacted themselves.

If it wasn't for the threats being hurled everywhere it'd be an easy "don't like, then don't buy" solution.

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#22  Edited By gokuss4z

Well I've seen worse covers but damn it's pretty messed up.

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#23  Edited By Vivide

I haven't posted on CV since the start of GG due to not wanting to be moderated to high hell , however I'll say a few words to those upset about DC pulling the variant GG stands along side anyone standing up for free speech and freedom of expression you are not alone.

www.comicvine.com/forums/off-topic-5/gamergate-zoe-quinn-scandal-1604008/

they do have open gamergate thread, we aint giantbomb

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Really tho argh

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Sigh.... what is it with comics? TV, movies, books, nobody gives a sh!t, but with comics everything is under a microscope. Comics are art, art is not meant to be taken away or blocked off, especially not a variant cover. If this is how comics are going to be, then maybe I'm not going to read much longer.

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I think it's important to keep in mind that Albaquerque personally requested that the cover not be published. One of DC's reasons for pulling the variant may have been because of the nagative response, but they also did it out of respect for their artist.

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This is why I keep saying you shouldn't read other characters

Just stick to Batman and everything will be alright

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#29 rogueshadow  Moderator

I swear, sometimes I think that the people who complain about these things must have never had one bad day in their life if this is the kind of sh*t that riles them up.

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Aww, but that one was my favorite :(

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@heyyouknowwhat said:

Good grief, that just makes Cameron Stewart look like even more of an a$$ now. Very poor behaviour on his part, as if it wasn't bad enough that he threw Rafael Albuquerque to the curb, he blocks people with valid criticisms of his tweets. I shan't be buying Batgirl any time soon if this is what the creative team and its fans are like.

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I swear, sometimes I think that the people who complain about these things must have never had one bad day in their life if this is the kind of sh*t that riles them up.

I see what you did there.

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Sad to see the cancelation. Also it make me a little mad the attitude that cameron stewart took.

It's a real good cover. But I wonder will be ever have female character only in power position and not in other position?

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There have also been complaints about this alleged sexual nature of the picture, because jokers gun is pointed downward.

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So people get angry about how dark this cover is, then threaten Albaquerque. Am I missing something here?

Also I don't understand why this bothers people so much. There's been much darker bat stuff in the past and it's a variant, so it's no like people are being forced to buy it in order to read batgirl.

It's a shame though, I was planning on buying it. One of my favorite covers as of recent.

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That's like the biggest buls**t ever! The cover is amazing and I can't see why anyone would have a problem with it.

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#39  Edited By vato315

@jedixman: Yeah because women need protecting and men don't cry.

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@skit said:

So people get angry about how dark this cover is, then threaten Albaquerque. Am I missing something here?

Also I don't understand why this bothers people so much. There's been much darker bat stuff in the past and it's a variant, so it's no like people are being forced to buy it in order to read batgirl.

It's a shame though, I was planning on buying it. One of my favorite covers as of recent.

Same. When I heard about the cover I was super excited about it, and then I got a text from my friend saying it was cancelled >:(

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@theprez said:

Sad to see the cancelation. Also it make me a little mad the attitude that cameron stewart took.

It's a real good cover. But I wonder will be ever have female character only in power position and not in other position?

Yeah, Cameron has been a complete a$$hole about it on Twitter. He is blocking ANYONE who opposes him which is just stupid because that just makes DC look bad.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that one reason they cancelled is because it is "sexual" yet DC uses a Magic Mike JLA background on Twitter where they are stripping. That's pretty hypocritical since the cover is being cancelled for sexual reasons, among other things too.

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I guess the most important thing in life is other peoples oversensitive feelings. Like if you run over a kid with your car don't try to help him because he is all bloody he might scare your kids riding with you... sounds ridiculous?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1927158/teenage-cyclist-hit-by-car-told-sorry-i-cant-stop-it-would-upset-my-kids/

But mah feeeeeeeeeeeelings..........

Idiots.

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@jayc1324 said:

There have also been complaints about this alleged sexual nature of the picture, because jokers gun is pointed downward.

Wow... people are running out of reasons these days...

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@jayc1324 said:

There have also been complaints about this alleged sexual nature of the picture, because jokers gun is pointed downward.

Wow... people are running out of reasons these days...

No kidding.

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#46  Edited By HeLord

Oh, look, the idiot feminists and SJWs are running wild again. I love how those idiots conveniently forget that this was supposed to be a VARIANT cover. There was another cover they could have bought if they didn't like this one. How can people be this dumb.

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The grand irony is that the whole #CHANGETHECOVER campaign will only serve to boost Albuquerque's variant cover.

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Seriously, who looked at that cover and said "That gun's is pointing down, it's obviously masochist and sexist"

Especially when there's "beautiful and classic" art that just skips the clothing.

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I really don't understand what is offensive about this cover?

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I really don't understand what is offensive about this cover?

It's really not offensive.