The DC Cinematic Universe: Why it has Potential

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Marvel Studios has made a ridiculous amount of money with its Cinematic Universe. The studio began expanding its world back in 2008 withIron Man, and their projects have become immensely popular since then. Before Iron Man and 2005's Batman Begins, the comic book genre was pretty lackluster. For every okay to pretty good movie, there were several forgettable ones. That's completely changed and now the genre is a money making machine. People expect these movies to be a great time instead of fearing it'll just be a blatant cash grab.

It's only understandable that DC would want to step into the ring and begin expanding its own universe. The DC Cinematic Universe began with 2013's Man of Steel, and they obviously have a lot of catching up to do. However, they stunned fans last week by dropping a huge announcement: the movies they have scheduled for 2016-2020. It's unclear when the Batman and Superman solo films will be released and who will direct them, but it was an ambitious announcement that implies they want to support their iconic characters. Whether the movies will be any good has yet to be seen and there's still plenty of announcements to come (several projects don't have directors or leads listed), but we think each movie has the potential to be worth seeing on the big screen. Only time will tell whether these projects live up to the hype, but for now, let's have some fun talking about them and discuss genres each could include.

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

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Man of Steel technically began the new DC Cinematic Universe, but Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice will likely feel like its true start. Sure, MoS had quite a few easter eggs, but it was Kal-El's story and there were only hints here and there that other characters exist in this world. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is finally going to show us why we should feel invested in this evergrowing universe. This one needs to be all about fan service and spectacle as they set the stage for what's to come. If you want people to buy tickets for the following films, this one needs to deliver on all fronts. It needs to have a compelling plot, character depth, and jaw-dropping action. Having Argo's writer, Chris Terrio, means we thankfully can expect stronger dialogue, too. That's certainly needed if the movie is going to incorporate so many characters and new dynamics.

Suicide Squad (2016)

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Guardians of the Galaxy was uplifting, hilarious, and heartwarming. Suicide Squad? It should be the be the polar opposite of that. When it comes to the DC Cinematic Universe, director David Ayer's movie should be their opportunity to let loose a ton of darkness and violence. Okay, if big names like Deadshot or Harley Quinn are on the roster, we're pretty confident they'll survive the first film, but you need to feel like anyone can die and you need to care. This shouldn't just be shock value death and over-the-top violence. This should show us how the world's responding to new threats by creating a black ops team that can be thrown at whatever threat the government wants dealt with without actually being connected to the mission. If Quinn's in it, we can expect some twisted humor, but this is a movie that should balance character beats and intense action while also giving the studio a chance to go a little darker than usual. The grittier tone may not work for some characters and teams, but it's perfect for this one.

Wonder Woman (2017)

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We know Wonder Woman is a Demigod in this universe, so that means her solo film needs to embrace the fantasy genre with open arms. Gods, minotaurs, Themyscira, so on and so on. If we know she's a Demigod, trying to make this one more grounded or realistic will just feel off. Each of these solo films need to bring something new to the experience and this one needs to celebrate her mythology. Show audiences why Wonder Woman's badass and not one-dimensional. Show us the world she lives in and how she's adapting to the "regular" world. Don't rely on bringing in cameos from Batman or Superman; have total confidence in Diana's story and leave us wanting more. Bring on the mythical elements!

Justice League Part One (2017)

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"Go big or go home" is the mentality they need for this one. This is their version of the Avengers; a gathering of cool characters being brought together to take on a threat that none of them should be able to handle on their own. This has to epic, full of cheerworthy moments, and overflowing with spectacle. This is the one that needs to leave audiences in awe and make them interested enough to buy a ticket to see a Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg, and Green Lantern solo movies. Considering it's part one, they also need one heck of a good cliffhanger. Whoever the big bad is, they need to end this one on a staggering note involving that villain. Whether it's Darkseid, Brainiac, or Condiment KingDoomsday, this one absolutely needs to conclude on a moment that'll leave people counting down the months until they can witness the follow-up.

The Flash (2018)

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Look, it's fair to assume some of the previous DC movies will have a more stern and serious atmosphere, but The Flash is where they'll have the chance to offer something totally different. They need to take notes from CW's The Flash because that show is full of lighthearted bits and great displays of emotion. Yes, they need to wow us with amazingly cool displays of Flash's power being put to use, but it's important to make sure everyone likes this character and wants to root for him. It has to be humanizing, fun, and full of awesome special effects. Set the bar high and strive to top Quicksilver's joyous scene in X-Men: Days of Future Past multiple times. Otherwise, what's the point?

Aquaman (2018)

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to DC's answer to Avatar. No, not The Last Airbender; the one that was loaded with stunning visuals and 3D as we took a trip to an alien world. This movie should aim to amaze our eyes as Jason Momoa spends a lot of time underwater and in Atlantis. Keep the eye candy flowing and don't stop. Whether it's something as simple as Arthur Curry interacting with aquatic life to battling Black Manta (or whoever the villain is), this is a movie that should demand to be seen in 3D. The scope needs to be huge as we get a character-driven story about Arthur Curry. To reel casual fans in, this really needs to promote that it'll include scene after scene of gorgeous special effects. Aquaman has the opportunity to make general audiences finally think the character isn't a joke and leave them wanting to see more of his underwater world. If Marvel Studios can turn Rocket Raccoon and Groot into fan favorites, it'll be hugely disappointing if they can't at least make people finally realize Aquaman isn't lame.

Shazam (2019)

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SHAZAM! With this one, DC has the opportunity to create a movie that has a great sense of fun and charm. With so many of the other movies going for big, bold, and gripping, Shazam can keep us smiling. As it delves deep into the fantasy genre, witnessing a kid gain these powers and adapt to this new world can offer a powerful sense of wonder and joy. They need to make us believe a character can fly and love every second of it. In addition to the friendlier tone, casting Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as Black Adam gives this movie a chance to create one of the most complex and fascinating villains we've yet to see. In the right hands, Shazam could be a real delight.

Justice League Part Two (2019)

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Remember that cliffhanger Justice League Part One left us on (or it least it should have)? Now it's time to make this movie worth the wait. Continue the epicness and go over-the-top. Make us enjoy the character dynamics and produce twists and action that'll get people talking. This needs to be their answer to The Avengers. It likely won't have the same amount of laughs (or at least we can assume so), so it needs to compensate for that by having crowd-pleasing scene after crowd-pleasing scene. If this doesn't make an impact, it's highly unlikely people will want to see next year's Cyborg solo movie.

Cyborg (2020)

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It's safe to say this was the biggest surprise on the schedule, right? The New 52 has been giving Victor Stone a push, but the dude still doesn't have his own title. Seeing as he's getting his own movie, it's safe to say that'll probably change at some point down the road. So, why give Cyborg his own movie? This can celebrate all of the technological advancements DC's Earth has made since Man of Steel. S.T.A.R. Labs needs to be a focal point as we see what humanity is doing to adapt to this new environment. While Suicide Squad can see the darker side of what people are doing to respond to new challenges, this can give us a very different "behind the scenes" look at this universe. What's also important is this movie can focus on a father-son dynamic. Between the action and thrills, Cyborg has the potential to be full of heart. Fingers crossed this could also begin to tease some of his fellow Titans.

Green Lantern (2020)

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Let's be nice and call 2011's Green Lantern disappointing. This reboot -- or at least we're praying it's a reboot -- needs to focus on what that film did wrong and rectify those mistakes. Spend less time on Earth and more time on Oa and exploring the cosmos. This needs to be pure sci-fi. We understand if they expand the human supporting cast just a bit, but aside from giving the lead -- whether it's Hal or John Stewart -- more depth, we really need to see more of the Green Lantern Corps. Make us fans of the other Lanterns. Make Sinestro someone we love to hate -- someone who we think could be the big bad in the next wave of movies. And, while they're at it, tease the Sinestro Corps War. Yeah, that's what the other movie did, but do you know why? Because it's an awesome story that needs to happen on the big screen. Whatever the big threat is in Justice League Part One and Part Two, Green Lantern has the potential to set the stage for the next phase in the DC Cinematic Universe. Make it big, make it fun, and focus on giving audiences a ton of cosmic goodness.

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The hype is real! At least two movies a year from DC in 2016.

I was shocked that Suicide Squad is there second movie planed all though if you think about it from a story point of view it makes sense. The government oh crap we have aliens and demi gods floating around we a need a response.

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#2  Edited By The_Kidd

@timelord: But shouldn't the villains be introduce in their counter part movie first?

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I agree with everything you just said so much that I'm not going to contribute anything.

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@eyedcyou said:

I agree with everything you just said so much that I'm not going to contribute anything.

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Of course it has potential look what Marvel did with it.

I'm sure there were naysayers for that too.

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#6  Edited By viin

well first off if the DCU does not deliver I'm probably done with comic book movies all together.

And when should we start seeing info on the Suicide Squad movie? Out of all the movies that if the one that seems most unexpected.

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@the_kidd: Guardians of the Galaxy proved a team with a bunch of unknowns can be a smash hit. They just need to find there own niche and stick to it.

DC's greatest strength has always been its villain's.

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#9 the_stegman  Moderator

I can add nothing to this, I pretty much agree with everything that you said!

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#11  Edited By MadeinBangladesh

Great stuff Gregg!

I thank based god for all the amazing comic movies we have coming.

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Totally agree with what you said

I also want a fables story so badly:(

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Suicice Squad MUST have 2 things! One is Deadshot, and the other is Amanda Waller.

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Great stuff Gregg!

I thank based god for all the amazing comic movies we have coming.

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Can't wait, but I wonder what will be the big picture in these movies.

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#17  Edited By MuyJingo

Of course the DCCU has potential, but MoS didn't give a lot of people faith that that potential will be realized.

MoS had (at least to me and many others) a very poor portrayal of the lead character, and had a focus on meaningless destruction-porn action over characterization and plot.

DC seems set on trying to make "works of art" with it's characters rather then trusting the source material and just making a good comic book movie. The fact the the Justice League movie is already in two parts hints at a level of pretension that makes me very wary.

Could all the subsequent DCCU films after MoS be amazing? Hopefully, but if they all follow the methodology of attempting to be realistic by making every hero grim, most of these movies will be forgettable just as MoS was.

The semi-realism-by-way-of--dark-and-gritty formula worked for Batman, because Batman is a dark and gritty hero. It worked for Superman because most people ignored the problems with characterization and were happy to see two super beings throwing each other through buildings. I don't think audiences will be as forgiving if they try to apply that to the rest of the heroes being slated for their own film.

Also, it's important to note that it has been mentioned before that Shazam may not be part of the DCCU. I don't know why it wouldn't be, but various news sites were reporting it was going to be stand alone.

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I still think a Captain Marvel movie is a mistake, but I'll try to be positive.

Wonder Woman and Cyborg do have potential. Hoping Hal is the lead for a GL folm, and if not I could accept Kyle.

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Of course the DC film universe has potential, I just hope Warner Brothers knows that.

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#20  Edited By MuyJingo

I also hope Zack Snyder and/or Nolan and/or Goyer are not steering the entire DCCU ship. For people who like their style, fine, but let more talented other people play in this amazing universe and bring something different to the table!

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@timelord said:

@the_kidd: Guardians of the Galaxy proved a team with a bunch of unknowns can be a smash hit. They just need to find there own niche and stick to it.

DC's greatest strength has always been its villain's.

cough batman cough

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I'm calling it now suicide squad is going to be the best out of all of them.

@madeinbangladesh: Iol

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#25  Edited By HolySerpent

I still don't see Dwayne Johnson as Black Adam but that's just me.

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I have faith that the dc cinematic universe is gonna work. It's got some amazing films and the next few years will be epic for cinema. The only thing that's vexing me is that there's no superman film coming out. I would of really liked dc to make one with the big man as a main character. But I can live with that. However there's one reason that these films could flop and it's because Dc is terrible at marketing. I know marvel can sometimes go overboard with the marketing but because they flood the audience with trailers and clips they get a large amount of people curious about the film. DC will need to overhaul their marketing and show people what they are bringing to the table. Just a thought.

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im about it, im sure the films will be good

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I have very little faith in Warner Bro doing these movies successfully. I would prefer if they sold the rights to another movie company. Mainly because all the ever did was tackle batman and superman movies, but since avengers was successful they want to do this. Now they may do it perfectly, but I thinking it would have more Batman then it should, or they will pull another Batman and Robin forever, or catwoman.

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This is their version of the Avengers;

Christ.....................

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So excited for these! I'm going to sleep now, wake me when it's 2016.

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#31  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

This is their version of the Avengers;

Christ.....................

? Marvel Studios beat them to the punch when it comes to "assembling" the cinematic versions of their biggest heroes.

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#32  Edited By mickey-mouse

Honestly at this point if they aren't gonna do another Superman solo film he needs to be the Captain of Teaming up, same thing with Batman serving as a Co Captain stepping in and Teaming up with Flash, WW, etc.

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@lukehero said:

Honestly at this point if they aren't gonna do another Superman solo film he needs to be the Captain of Teaming up, same thing with Batman serving as a Co Captain stepping in and Teaming up with Flash, WW, etc.

I have faith that the dc cinematic universe is gonna work. It's got some amazing films and the next few years will be epic for cinema. The only thing that's vexing me is that there's no superman film coming out. I would of really liked dc to make one with the big man as a main character. But I can live with that. However there's one reason that these films could flop and it's because Dc is terrible at marketing. I know marvel can sometimes go overboard with the marketing but because they flood the audience with trailers and clips they get a large amount of people curious about the film. DC will need to overhaul their marketing and show people what they are bringing to the table. Just a thought.

They are making Batman and Superman solo films. The press release said those in the works, just haven't provided a release date yet.

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Awesome write up, but all of these movies are going to sell tickets no matter how bad they are.

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#35  Edited By Fallingcliffs

Answer is yes. Obviously! JL movies will do well, and the fact that they're branching out all of their main heroes will prove very useful. Can't wait so excited!

For the dude concerning marketing, DC markets pretty well that's not the problem. They've been promoting and marketing their new comics, shows, games and movies very well past few years and of late. They just revealed a ton of movies coming, I'd say that's more than enough to say what they're bringing to the table by 2020.

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@soldierofel: @k4tzm4n: That's good news, but honestly I'm cool with either. The reason Marvel Studios is great at Marketing is because Disney has several different outlets; Disney, Disney XD, ABC, ESPN, ABC Family, ESPN 2, SEC Network, ESPN NEWS, etc, etc. WB only has CW which is a niche channel. To my knowledge they don't have anywhere else where they can get free marketing on TV. Avengers gets marketed basically for free during American College Football games which are extremely popular. Also ESPN has Monday Night Football and NBA games in which they can have basically free ads run. Also Sports Center is extremely popular and even casually sports fans watch. Basically Disney can hit every age and gender demographic with their vast amount of TV channels and programming.

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@fallingcliffs: DC/WB marketing is good, but Disney is on another level for the reasons I stated above.

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@lukehero: DC tends to do it in commercials and I see a ton of promoting and marketing in their books. Marvel seems to do it with things like buses, billboards, commercials etc

Of late though it's obvious DC has been killing it with their announcements at CC for example, I'd totally give DC the win this year over Marvel. Notice as soon as DC made their tons of movie confirmations, new books comics and outside books coming not apart of the New 52 like Fables Wolf Among Us, MK X besides their mainstream DC books and digital series coming Marvel immediately "leaked" their Marvel Avegers AOU trailer lol.

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@lukehero said:

@soldierofel: @k4tzm4n: That's good news, but honestly I'm cool with either. The reason Marvel Studios is great at Marketing is because Disney has several different outlets; Disney, Disney XD, ABC, ESPN, ABC Family, ESPN 2, SEC Network, ESPN NEWS, etc, etc. WB only has CW which is a niche channel. To my knowledge they don't have anywhere else where they can get free marketing on TV. Avengers gets marketed basically for free during American College Football games which are extremely popular. Also ESPN has Monday Night Football and NBA games in which they can have basically free ads run. Also Sports Center is extremely popular and even casually sports fans watch. Basically Disney can hit every age and gender demographic with their vast amount of TV channels and programming.

WB has had some of the best marketing campaigns around. Just look at what they did with TDK. WB announced they will spend 2B a year marketing these movies. So, they're all in.

Also, it was also announced that they are making Batman and Superman solo movies, they just haven't been announced yet. Probably want to build up more momentum.

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The age of DC is here. Viva la Snyder!!!

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i believe half of these movies will never see the light of day.

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@needlebay: DC has good marketing, Disney Marvel saves a lot of money by using it's own TV channels to place ads on. @fallingcliffs: Oh yeah DC is very good, what I am saying is Disney doesn't really have to spend a lot of money on TV marketing because they have a host of channels, especially sports, which makes and females watch. I highly doubt the leak was on purpose.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillbarr/2014/10/23/avengers-age-of-ultron-leak-hurts-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-and-possibly-future-star-wars-plans/

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@lukehero: Oh yeah that's true they have a ton of TV channels, sponsers etc no doubt. WB has a lot to, probably not as much as Disney though.

I just felt the timing of their leak was funny lol since DC had just announced and bombarded the world with news you know. Leaks seems to happen often these days.

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#44  Edited By SanoHibiki

At very least I sure that DCCU wouldn’t have that many stupid jokes and humor ala Marvel – and that’s very good.

Looking forward to next years!

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#45  Edited By amazing_webhead

...it's fair to assume some of the previous DC movies will have a more stern and serious atmosphere...

...It likely won't have the same amount of laughs (or at least we can assume so)...

Yes, because if DC doesn't beat the same 5 jokes to death until they're not funny anymore, then all their movies are automatically dark as sh*t. Shawarma shawarma shawarma shawarma shawarma!

...I'm sorry, I'm being unreasonable. Seriously, though, this article rocks!

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I liked man of steel.........

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I liked man of steel.........

I liked it too. I think it's pretty much the most polarizing CBM ever.

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@lukehero said:

@soldierofel: @k4tzm4n: That's good news, but honestly I'm cool with either. The reason Marvel Studios is great at Marketing is because Disney has several different outlets; Disney, Disney XD, ABC, ESPN, ABC Family, ESPN 2, SEC Network, ESPN NEWS, etc, etc. WB only has CW which is a niche channel. To my knowledge they don't have anywhere else where they can get free marketing on TV. Avengers gets marketed basically for free during American College Football games which are extremely popular. Also ESPN has Monday Night Football and NBA games in which they can have basically free ads run. Also Sports Center is extremely popular and even casually sports fans watch. Basically Disney can hit every age and gender demographic with their vast amount of TV channels and programming.

WB owns HBO.

Always seemed like a wasted opportunity they didn't do HBO shows with some of their properties.

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#49  Edited By deadcool_XD

Yeah DC may have potential, but that potential is thrown in the recycling bin because DC is in a rush to compete with Marvel. All the floods of DC movies is just because Marvel is doing it. DC needs to slow down and they have the potential to create some really great movies. Lets face I Marvel is already running out of ideas (Ant Man) and even though guardians of the galaxy was great, how many non-comic readers actually new who they were before this. And lets just be clear I'm not hating on DC I love them. And I am totally stoked for the movies to come like Batman Vs Superman....even if Affleck is going to play batman. I think the Aflac duck can play batman better.

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#50  Edited By Snizzy

I'm really excited about the Cyborg Film