So Spider-man comes out 2 weeks after Wonder Woman

Damn it. Everyone loves Spiderman, even the disaster that was TASM2 grossed over 700m worldwide and I'm sure most of the general audience enjoyed it and Civil War will up the spidey hype with the general audience so of course the Spiderman movie will make lots of money. However, if BvS and Suicide Squad turn out to be go(which I personally think they will be), Wonder Woman might become a fan favorite. Also the fact that it's the first female solo superhero movie it will hopefully get so much more attention then the average superhero movie.

Yet, I still believe that the Spiderman movie will be more successful, money wise, that is.

I don't think Marvel is going to move. I think this because if they do move it could seem like they are worried about DC. I also think this because Spider-Man is going to crush Wonder Woman at the Box office.

Also love how two weeks apart isn't considered "enough time"...almost every movie is released within two weeks of something that might be considered competition for it. Two weeks is a long time between movie releases. This is a non-issue. Spider-Man and WW aren't as much competition for each other as they are practically advertisements for each other. (You know, the super-hero genre in general.) I wonder if the same people "rooting for" Spider-Man to crush WW also root for the Denver Broncos to beat the Golden State Warriors. That'd be pretty much the same thing.

Spider-Man is overated and I make sure no one in my fam support MCU/Disney!

@manwhohaseverything:

Also love how two weeks apart isn't considered "enough time".

For exactly the same genre is short (B v S moved from Civil War more than a month) but i believe that what should be more alarming for WB. is go head to head with Transformers 5 (consistently $1B blockbuster) and in the next week against another ($1B blockbuster) Despicable Me 3 and then Spider-Man... Very strange that Paramount didn't care much for Wonder Woman movie that supposedly is also a big studio (WB) blockbuster and announce their movie release date exactly for the same day, big studios normally avoid direct competition between their blockbusters, specially because the beginning of June (2017) seems weaker in terms of box office potential!

Wrong. Spiderman 3 sold more compared to the last.

Nice try though.

Transformers 5 will crush WW.

Not in the US it didn't, which is what I said in the first place.

and when you take into account inflation and rising ticket prices its similar for worldwide, the audience has dropped with every film.

why are you worried? Just gives me more things to do that week :D

People become unreasonably paranoid when it comes to these things. Chill out.

Some loser made a post about how deadpool might be hurt by Zoolander 2's release date because of the audience. I was I saved that post in my faves

@asgaard said:

@manwhohaseverything:

Also love how two weeks apart isn't considered "enough time".

For exactly the same genre is short (B v S moved from Civil War more than a month) but i believe that what should be more alarming for WB. is go head to head with Transformers 5 (consistently $1B blockbuster) and in the next week against another ($1B blockbuster) Despicable Me 3 and then Spider-Man... Very strange that Paramount didn't care much for Wonder Woman movie that supposedly is also a big studio (WB) blockbuster and announce their movie release date exactly for the same day, big studios normally avoid direct competition between their blockbusters, specially because the beginning of June (2017) seems weaker in terms of box office potential!

Or..they have so much faith in it, they're willing to go head to head with Transformers? Besides, a lot of those dates (including WW, who knows) are open to change. End of the day, it'll really depend on how good the movie is. If it's good, it'll do well, if not , it won't. That's true regardless of release date. I'm going to take a wild stab and say execs at WB know what they're doing more than posters on CV.

@manwhohaseverything:

Or..they have so much faith in it, they're willing to go head to head with Transformers?

Obviously this equation has a lot of variables but the movie medium never refuted its business perspective, in fact that part also creates hype (sometimes negative) for future projects, some decisions, (with the current data) have more potential than others to make the movie successful. Is not like WB (or other movie studio) decisions should be isolated from criticisms till the movie ends its box office performance.

Besides, a lot of those dates (including WW, who knows) are open to change.

True, recently in Jan 21, 2016 WB confirmed the release date for Wonder Woman as June 23, 2017 and revealed Justice League Part One will be coming November 17, 2017. link Still before Paramount put Transformers 5 in the same day so i hope WB acknowledges that the current release date is not the best for the Wonder Woman movie.

End of the day, it'll really depend on how good the movie is. If it's good, it'll do well, if not , it won't. That's true regardless of release date.

Here i disagree with you, Star Wars episode 7 would do a lot less money in the current Wonder Woman release date! Obviously that if Star Wars was in that release date Transformers 5 and the next movies would not be there, again Wonder Woman can be amazing but WB cast and writer for this movie lacks of star power and that could be one of the reasons why Paramount didn't care to go head to head with Wonder Woman!

I'm going to take a wild stab and say execs at WB know what they're doing more than posters on CV.

Agreed! But is not like they don't make mistakes, in fact 2015 was just terrible for WB the best movie at the box office was San Andreas than made less money thanAnt-Man! Mad Max: Fury Road had potential to much more and WB wasn't really able to capitalize it, sometimes be great is not everything you have to build the appeal in the marketing campaign like Fox did with Deadpool!

It won't affect a lot, the majority of comic fans will go see both anyways. Looking forward to Wonder Woman & Spider-Man (but he's already had 5 films, so not as much)

This.

+ : The general public is already sold on Spiderman.

But i believe Wonder Woman will have a lot more press than Spiderman since it'll be the first movie about the most iconic female comic character. A lot of people will go see the movie out of curiosity.

Transformers 5 is the real problem. Its guaranteed to bring in a lot of money and will most likely take business away from WW.

@petey_is_spidey: They are ok as action fests but they are only an action film no ide ahow it has the following it does 2bh.

Never said it wouldn't be successful nor did I ever say it wasn't going to be profitable. All I said is that it would have to face the giant that is the TF franchise, and that it could hurt its business. That's it. You're reading out of context.

so who announced first?

This whole thread (well, at least for me) is about how WW will fare against other movies released near it. It being stomped by Transformers could very well mean a $1.5 billion dollar gross for TF and a $500 million dollar gross for WW. In this scenario, was WW profitable? Hell yes. However, did TF hand stomp it at the BO? Yes. Doesn't negate the fact that it was still a very profitable movie.

"Wonder Woman comes out June 23, 2017"

I can't say I'm gonna commit to seeing this is cinema as everything points to it being toilet.

"and Spider-Man now comes out July 7, 2017,"

Again...I could be surprised, but if history has taught me anything.

"and that's going to be some major competition."

I guess, I'd be kinda surprised if Wonder Woman was good competition but as it's the first female superhero movie in a long time it'll probably do well.

"Something else worth noting is that Despicable Me 3 is coming out a week after, which has a huge audience too."

Yea but I don't think it's worth noting, it's just them repackaging a big ol' turd that kids are gonna smear in there parents faces till they lose their minds. Nothing original, nothing funny, just awful jokes and money grabbing.

"I know that the release dates are tentative but I'm worried. Do you think WB may decide to bring it out sooner or what should happen?"

Nah, I really don't think it matters. Plus anyone who is not a child or a parent of young children and is going to see Despicable Me 3 should be kinda ashamed of themselves. Largely different audiences imo.

"Do you think Marvel may move?"

Sony? More likely than WB but again I doubt it.

@petey_is_spidey: Are you looking forward to Transformers 5?

As a Transformers fan, yes. I don't care how crappy the movies are, they still have great CGI, fight scenes, and are somewhat funny. However, I'm not expecting anything different.

@agent41: I didn't say Wonder Woman won't be successful. I just think that Spider-Man is going to gross more at the Box Office.

Well, me, because my interest in Spiderman died with the Clone Saga and I haven't seen anything to resurrect it yet.

Also one has to consider whenever the audience has gotten tired of Spiderman considering how many movies he's had... and that the last couple haven't been all that good.

I believe WB has already been looking at their options to move Wonder Woman a month earlier somewhere around mothers day because the next Transformers movie comes out the same day which those movies usually do pretty well...somehow. For finally having a female super hero movie she's not having the best of luck finding a good premiere date. But I guess with the explosion of comic book movies they are bound to start sharing premiere dates.

@agent41:

I love how all of you act like WW can't be a success if another super hero movie has a bigger gross at the box-office. WW like any other movie needs to gross enough to be profitable, that's all the people involved in the business care about. So unless you have the power to see the future, stop acting like the movie can't be successful.

That is your spin, i was just pointing out that with the current (announced) release dates for June and July of 2017, even if Star Wars 8 was in Wonder Woman spot it would make a lot less money than in December (where there is no competition), by giving Wonder Woman a new release date WB is helping this franchise because i never saw a comic book movie/blockbuster from a big studio with such a difficult competition and Wonder Woman is not an established franchise yet!

Note: I hope you don't explore the Wonder Woman hate angle, is better for any franchise have the best release date possible and that should be acknowledged by WB, if they play the we announce the release date first with Paramount that only has potential to hurt Diana's first live action movie, besides as Godly stuff fan i am planing to read the rebirth/relaunch for Wonder Woman!

They'll move WW anyway. It's currently slated for the same day as Transformers 5. Staying where it is would be very bad strategically.

@agent41:

The point is WW can still be a successful-profitable movie, even if the other 3 movies mentioned gross mover.

Yes but that is just an assumption nothing objective, you have to also acknowledge the scenario where fans/audiences/WB will (inevitably) compare Wonder Woman with other comic book movies and more so with the other DC movies... Imagine that Wonder Woman is a great comic book movie a lot better than Flash and Aquaman but performs a lot worse in the box office because the competition was tougher, would you be happy with that scenario? See WW the best movie but also the one that made less money in the Dc movie universe? That also could open the possibility to Flash and Aquaman have sequels before Wonder Woman because more people would have seen that movies and would be expecting continuations!

Are you sure? More like saying that Wonder Woman will be a hit is objective, can be is not objective... Well Mad Max was/is a consensual great movie along critics and audiences and had a poor performance because WB didn't make the best decisions regarding this movie (and a lot others in 2015)...That is the same to say that CV and all the sites that cover movie news are pointless, even the ones that have their role/influence in the movie industry.

@agent41: Yeah, but they're on the same day, and Transformers has consistently done well. It will take opening weekend viewers from WW. It would just be smart.

WW will do ok but it's not in the same league as mcu spiderman film.

This.

@agent41: dude can u just stop with your complaining and jumping to conclusions?

@agent41: Actually it really is

@agent41: The mere fact, you're complaining at us, for judging the WW movie states otherwise tbh

@agent41: To keep tagging us when some of us didn't respond and to drag it out is the problem. I've been tagged for times with you specifically complaining about how us people

I love how all of you act like WW can't be a success if another super hero movie has a bigger gross at the box-office. WW like any other movie needs to gross enough to be profitable, that's all the people involved in the business care about. So unless you have the power to see the future,stop acting like the movie can't be successful.

to stop basically giving our opinion, and accept yours. I'm not going to argue this any further I didnt come to the vine to argue about this stuff its a comic site, and before you say "well dont state your opinion then" Well dont get so bent over our opinions then