@yung_ancient_one said:
@tupiaz said:
Well the problem is that this is not a redesign but a new character. Instead of Marvel trying to make yet another GR the should be focusing on making the one that have worked the most (JB) to work again. Putting out a new GR each year is not gonna help the franchise.
I. What if they can't come up with any good JB stories? Should Marvel just force their writers to write about a character they have no ideas or interest in writing?
II. I never liked Johnny Blaze, I prefer Danny Ketch.
III. Introducing a new GR isn't helping the GR series? Again, so should they force their writers to make a series about a character they have no interest in?
IV. There was NerdRage when Flash Thompson was announced to be the new Venom. Now he has become more popular than Brock to a certain group in the community.
V. I am actually excited for this new character. I like new characters. I never liked Johnny Blaze and I am a sucker for the idea that Robbie Reyes will be a local in East LA.
VI. Like a broken record I repeat. However, I have a new question.
What's better?
Take a chance with a new character or do nothing?
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A.)Jason Aaron gave Blaze a good story..It's not that hard to do.
B.)Ketch was never as great as Blaze for many reasons..Blaze's GR was always more powerful,Blaze's "it sucks to be me"lifestyle fitted a cursed character like Ghost Rider a lot more than Ketch's,and one of the biggest was Ketch wound up being an idiot in that last run. It was his fault Zadkiel took over Heaven in the first place
C.)It's like people purposely ignore the fact that THEY ALREADY INTRODUCED A NEW RIDER BEFORE and it failed. If it's not broke then don't fix it..Did Ghost Rider come back into relevance by having a new rider introduced? No they got GR back in the game by working Danny and Johnny
D.)I'm so tired of people bringing up this whole "people didn't like so and so playing this guy but then they liked him afterwards"argument. Just because people don't like someone doesn't automatically mean they're going to be liked or successful later on..Flash is a bad example that people love to keep bringing up because Flash was already an established character in the Spider-man world. We knew Flash and were already familiar with his character..Whereas Alejandra,and Robbie will be the same as well,was a complete unkown and that when we got to see into her past she wound up not being very interesting at all. The irony is that people just like you where saying these exact same thing about Alejandra when they debuted her and as I've said many times..Look how that turned out
E.)So they criticize if people complain about Robbie(which people should complain)yet find it alright to complain that they don't like Blaze..Bud you do know that when Blaze was around so was Ketch right? Hell they were even traveling together until they separated in Shadowland
F.)This is by far the easiest question..What's better? Oh I don't know..Instead of introducing a new rider how about bringing back Ketch as I've said before? We've literally not seen or heard anything about Danny Ketch except for his last appearance in that Deadpool team-up(or maybe it was that FF appearance too..)
For someone that supposedly so many people liked from the 90's it's as if they've dropped him entirely and he's just vanished. Shoot I would've rather seen their new Vengeance have his own series long before a new rider..Point being there's so much they could be doing with what they've already got instead of bringing in something new that's either going to be a hit or miss(most likely)
I. I'm not saying it's hard to do. I'm saying no one wants to make new stories for Blaze.
II. Ok. I still don't like Blaze. Thanks for sharing though and I'm not being sarcastic about thanking you. I honestly like it when users share their opinions even if I disagree with them.
III. You're ignoring my question. I am not saying that GR is broken. I am saying they can't/won't come up with new stories for Blaze/Ketch and rather do something with the GR legacy than nothing.
IV. Thompson is a good example because Mac Gargan was also a already established character and people still never grew to like him as Venom. Being completely new or previously established does not automatically define a characters longevity.
V. When did I say one should not complain about Reyes? I just stated not everyone Hates Reyes and some people like me are actually interested.
VI. You ignored the question, yet again. Look, which of the 2 is a better option. I know a 3rd opinion is the BEST but I'm asking which is the "lesser of two evils." If you're not going to participate in the two options then please just don't reply.
@yung_ancient_one:
I. Oblivious you shouldn't make stories if there aren't good. Never said they should.
II. Ahem okay?
III. What make you think that the writers is interested in the new character?
IV. Ahem okay? Side note:The symbiote has jump around before so nothing new there. Also I don't care for the Spider-man universe post OMD so...
V. So you like new characters because they are new? Why is new a positive adjective? It should be a neutral adjective. I would prefer if the writers manage to reshape old characters so the natural and logical fit in their new direction. For instance take a 1 or 2 dimensional character and lift them into becoming deeper characters.
VI. Sometimes it is do nothing. Just to act for the sake of act is not a good reason to act. I haven't seen any new or good idea about this character and that is why this seems to be change for the sake of change. Making the new character for the sake of making a new is not useful. If there is a need for new character and it bring something new to the table then fair.
I. I am glad we can agree on that. Just to verify, I never said you said that either.
II. Just sharing.
III. I am interested in this new character so I read articles on the creative team talking about it and they say they are excited for Reyes. I'd find the link but I'm busy at the moment to search. Hopefully next week I'll have the time to search for it. It's on CBR if you care to search for me XP.
IV. Thompson is a good example of how nothing is set on stone. No one will automatically be forever hated or forever loved once they are announced. I'm just trying to say, give Reyes some time. I'm not saying give him a chance just give him time to see if he does or does not become popular or loved in the comicbook community.
V. New characters are a neutral adjective but it isn't a negative adjective like others make them seem to be. Why isn't Robbie Reyes a neutral adjective? Why has so many users made his inception a negative for the GR legacy. I'm not saying they should always make new characters and yes they should add more on characters. However, I honestly think writers from Marvel don't really care to write about Blaze or Ketch for whatever reason and instead of doing nothing with the GR mythos, they want to try something new.
VI. I'm glad you made a choice. I can appreciate and respect your distaste for Reyes since you'd prefer for Marvel to do nothing with GR if they simply can't come up with anything good.
However,
"If there is a need for new character and it bring something new to the table then fair."
There is a need for a new characters. The truth is most comicbook heroes/vigilantes are Caucasian. There is a need for more diversity. Reyes does bring something new to the table and that is ethnicity for one.
I'm not saying a character should be defined by their race but it would be nice to see more diversity in comics.
Reyes also brings the new idea of a Ghost Rider driving cars instead of bikes. Reyes enjoys listening to music of electronica and he's from East LA.
I'm a sucker for the idea that a character will be from my neck of the woods. I find this exciting, no matter how wrong I may be to be excited for a novelty of a hometown hero being from my neck of the woods.
If there is a need for new character and it bring something new to the table then fair
VII.
I just think people are overreacting and aren't willing to give it time. If Reyes fails, his series will get cancelled; problem solved. If Reyes is a success then it is a success and Blaze will still live on the previous books.
I'd type more but I can't at the moment.
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