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#1 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10328 posts) - - Show Bio

So, today I watched The Dark Knight again. I'm sure allot of users on this site will agree with me when I say Heath Ledger's performance was fantastic. That got me to thinking: If the next Batman franchise where to have the Joker, is there anyone that could match Mr. Ledger's showing?

I'm interested to see who you'd pick as the next actor for Batman's greatest foe.

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#2 Posted by omnicrono (3757 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

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#3 Edited by AllStarSuperman (36722 posts) - - Show Bio

William Dofeo

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#6 Posted by SheenLantern (7610 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, and about a thousand that could do better.

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#7 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

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There's no point in matching it, it was simply Ledger's iteration of the character. Which is as different from Jack Nicholson in the role as Cesar Romero (from the 60's Batman show) ! The same can be said of all the Batman portrayals. After the first movies with Michael Keaton would the rest of the actors who played Batman try to act like him, no, it's a non -issue! The thing about actors is, well they act, they take roles and put their spin on characters along with what's expected. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there is no standard for portraying the Joker. Also how many Catwomen have there been in the past? None of them were the same and all were unique. Eartha Kitt's verbal portrayal was the best ever and can never be duplicated, that's just the way it is!

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#8 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10328 posts) - - Show Bio

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There's no point in matching it, it was simply Ledger's iteration of the character. Which is as different from Jack Nickolas in the role as Cesar Romero (from the 60's Batman show) ! The same can be said of all the Batman portrayals. After the first movies with Michael Keaton would the rest of the actors who played Batman try to act like him, no, it's a non -issue! The thing about actors is, well they act, they take roles and put their spin on characters along with what's expected. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there is no standard for portraying the Joker. Also how many Catwomen have there been in the past? None of them were the same and all were unique. Eartha Kitt's verbal portrayal was the best ever and can never be duplicated, that's just the way it is!

I definitely see your point.

Is there anyone you would be interested in seeing there take on the Joker?

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#9 Posted by Battle_Forum_Junkie (10328 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Man, that was one of the best scenes in that movie. Is there another actor you'd like to see as the Joker?

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#10 Posted by Wolverine008 (50892 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

@battle_forum_junkie said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

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There's no point in matching it, it was simply Ledger's iteration of the character. Which is as different from Jack Nicholson in the role as Cesar Romero (from the 60's Batman show) ! The same can be said of all the Batman portrayals. After the first movies with Michael Keaton would the rest of the actors who played Batman try to act like him, no, it's a non -issue! The thing about actors is, well they act, they take roles and put their spin on characters along with what's expected. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there is no standard for portraying the Joker. Also how many Catwomen have there been in the past? None of them were the same and all were unique. Eartha Kitt's verbal portrayal was the best ever and can never be duplicated, that's just the way it is!

I definitely see your point.

Is there anyone you would be interested in seeing there take on the Joker?

I couldn't think of one at the moment!

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#12 Posted by Fallschirmjager (22692 posts) - - Show Bio

At some point, someone will always do something better than someone else.

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#13 Posted by rogueshadow (20858 posts) - - Show Bio

My friend Kieran.

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#14 Edited by RustyRoy (16534 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe , but it won't be easy.

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#15 Posted by The Stegman (36178 posts) - - Show Bio

They need to be different from Ledger's Joker

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#16 Posted by mikex20 (3146 posts) - - Show Bio

Mark Hamill is still my favorite Joker.

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#17 Posted by LyraFay (2643 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably not but Heath Ledger's/Nolan's Joker is rather influential through both the comics and movies. And he's still remembered a lot more especially because of MCU villains apart Loki which are trying to resonated him. Even Michael Shannon's Zod had a bit of Joker in him!

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#18 Posted by WIshIWasSuperman (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

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There's no point in matching it, it was simply Ledger's iteration of the character. Which is as different from Jack Nickolas in the role as Cesar Romero (from the 60's Batman show) ! The same can be said of all the Batman portrayals. After the first movies with Michael Keaton would the rest of the actors who played Batman try to act like him, no, it's a non -issue! The thing about actors is, well they act, they take roles and put their spin on characters along with what's expected. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there is no standard for portraying the Joker. Also how many Catwomen have there been in the past? None of them were the same and all were unique. Eartha Kitt's verbal portrayal was the best ever and can never be duplicated, that's just the way it is!

I couldn't read the rest of this post at this point, simply because I was imagining and elderly golfer running around yelling "why so serious?" (I realise the spelling is different for him too, but this typo made me lol).

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#19 Edited by evilvegeta74 (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

@wishiwassuperman said:

@evilvegeta74 said:

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There's no point in matching it, it was simply Ledger's iteration of the character. Which is as different from Jack Nicholson in the role as Cesar Romero (from the 60's Batman show) ! The same can be said of all the Batman portrayals. After the first movies with Michael Keaton would the rest of the actors who played Batman try to act like him, no, it's a non -issue! The thing about actors is, well they act, they take roles and put their spin on characters along with what's expected. So I'm gonna go out on a limb and say there is no standard for portraying the Joker. Also how many Catwomen have there been in the past? None of them were the same and all were unique. Eartha Kitt's verbal portrayal was the best ever and can never be duplicated, that's just the way it is!

I couldn't read the rest of this post at this point, simply because I was imagining and elderly golfer running around yelling "why so serious?" (I realise the spelling is different for him too, but this typo made me lol).

lol!

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#20 Edited by Extremis (3742 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I already think it has been matched in a somewhat different take many years earlier by Jack Nicolson. That's actually my favorite iteration of the character. Chillingly hilarious.

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#22 Edited by WIshIWasSuperman (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

@battle_forum_junkie:

I think Tom Hiddlestone could be a great Joker.

hhmmm... not sure about that. I mean he's a good actor, I just don't see it personally. But maybe I'm just being closed minded.

@lyrafay said:

Probably not but Heath Ledger's/Nolan's Joker is rather influential through both the comics and movies. And he's still remembered a lot more especially because of MCU villains apart Loki which are trying to resonated him. Even Michael Shannon's Zod had a bit of Joker in him!

O.o

What?!?!?

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#23 Edited by Crom-Cruach (8935 posts) - - Show Bio

Here is your next Joker: Crispin Glover. You're welcome

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#24 Edited by Bruxae (18147 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually didnt like Heath's Joker. So I am sure atleast in my opinion there's plenty who could match him easily.

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#25 Edited by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6732 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure who it should be, but I wasn't a fan of Heath Ledgers version, so I imagine someone else could do it in a way that I would like.

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#26 Edited by Uncanny_Doom (778 posts) - - Show Bio

People thought nobody would be able to outdo Jack Nicholson, and look what happened. I loved Ledger as Joker but I think it would be kind of disrespectful to believe that nothing will ever be comparable or able to surpass it.

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#27 Edited by omnicrono (3757 posts) - - Show Bio

@uncanny_doom: Except that Ledger didn't "outdo" Nicholson. It was a different type of performance. I personally enjoyed Nicholson's interpretation more.

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#28 Posted by BR_Havoc (1752 posts) - - Show Bio

Its not so much is there an actor its what path that actor takes. Heath went for a calmer more serious Joker compared to Jack's it was refreshing and something different I think the next person to play the Joker will not try to be like Heath's version in the least and it will work out fine.

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#29 Posted by Outside_85 (16866 posts) - - Show Bio

Ledgers Joker had one massive flaw in him: he wasn't funny.

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#30 Posted by sinestro_GL (3651 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably.

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#31 Posted by mightyrearranger (1786 posts) - - Show Bio

Gary Busey...

:D

Kidding, of course. I would love to see a lesser-known actor take on the role if the character is used again, but since the new series will focus on an older Batman, I don't know too many routes they could take. I thought Sean Rogerson could be interesting in the role, especially after his character's descent into madness during Grave Encounters, but would definitely be an adversary to a younger Batman.

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#32 Posted by Jokergeist (4714 posts) - - Show Bio

Troy Baker.

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#33 Posted by NewKid (410 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like to see Joaquin Phoenix give it a go.

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#34 Posted by PeppeyHare (4330 posts) - - Show Bio

yep

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#35 Posted by Marionettegeist (1936 posts) - - Show Bio

Ledgers Joker had one massive flaw in him: he wasn't funny.

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Troy Baker.

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This could work nicely.

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#36 Edited by Outside_85 (16866 posts) - - Show Bio

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@outside_85 said:

Ledgers Joker had one massive flaw in him: he wasn't funny.

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Not in the category that's considered funny.

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#37 Posted by Marionettegeist (1936 posts) - - Show Bio

@dctv3363 said:

@outside_85 said:

Ledgers Joker had one massive flaw in him: he wasn't funny.

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Not in the category that's considered funny.

We obviously have very different preferences in comedy.

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#38 Edited by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (6870 posts) - - Show Bio

Troy Baker.

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And Nolan North be Batman!!!

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#39 Posted by Outside_85 (16866 posts) - - Show Bio

@dctv3363 said:

@outside_85 said:

@dctv3363 said:

@outside_85 said:

Ledgers Joker had one massive flaw in him: he wasn't funny.

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Not in the category that's considered funny.

We obviously have very different preferences in comedy.

Well I dont recall anyone laughing when I saw it in the theater, so it probably just you.

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#40 Posted by Marionettegeist (1936 posts) - - Show Bio

@dctv3363 said:

@outside_85 said:

@dctv3363 said:

@outside_85 said:

Ledgers Joker had one massive flaw in him: he wasn't funny.

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Not in the category that's considered funny.

We obviously have very different preferences in comedy.

Well I dont recall anyone laughing when I saw it in the theater, so it probably just you.

Many people were laughing in the theater I was in.

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#41 Edited by RulerOfThisUniverse (6518 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. He was The Joker. How could anyone beat The Joker at playing The Joker?

(Seriously, though, there's probably a handful of actors that could beat him, but he set a really high bar)

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#42 Posted by Jake Fury (21941 posts) - - Show Bio

Ledger's Joker was great in nearly every way and he had plenty of creative freedom to make the character his own. Whoever plays Joker next needs that same luxury.